Lisa1967
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Reged: 10/29/02
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I have been using a certain OP for a while now...very good service,do NOT want to lose them.But-what's worse,someone STOLE my pain meds out of my house yesterday when I wasnt home,and I went on another website to order a consult,as I'm not due for a refill w/the 1st OP till next week. WELL,I made the mistake of using the SAME SOURCE! 
It was under another name,and I had NO idea,till I read up about the OP on DB(guess I should have done that 1st,huh?)
NOW what do I do???? Cancel my order??? Somebody help me!!!!
Lisa
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yawkaw3
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Reged: 03/22/03
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It depends what OP. My first time using OP's, I placed an order with ERX. Then I found DB and everyone told me how bad they were. Three days later I had not received my meds, despite paying like $40 for overnite shipping. So I e-mailed them to cancel, but they never responded.
In need of meds, I placed an order at Buymeds, got it the next day. ERX had STILL not cancelled my order. I tried calling, but anyone who has dealt with ERX knows how that goes. Eventually, they cancelled my order after they found out I already had one with Buymeds. I was refunded for the meds and shipping, but not the doctor's consultation.
If you'd like to PM me with which OP it is, I can give you better advice.
When you say "another website," do you mean an affiliate site? If you used a different name, then it will probably go through and you'll get your meds. It's entirely possible someone with a similar name lives at the same address. If you used the same credit card, that's a little shady, but it should still go through. You should know this is all illegal, btw.
Whether or not you cancel depends on how badly you need your meds. Someone else stealing your pain meds, doesn't legally excuse what you did afterwards. But if you are hurting and the pain is too much...
Keep us posted on how it goes, and again, don't hesitate to IM me if you want better advice.
-yawkaw
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bostonjoe
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Loc: South Carolina
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Just tell the op you forgot you had refills and was going through the consult process with them again. Makes you look good a returning customer and all.
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mello
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Reged: 11/02/02
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Loc: USA
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Sorry, I really have no advice to offer...it just infuriates me when I read about people stealing other's meds. Do they not think we NEED them??? Anyone who would do this obviously has a drug problem...or just a wanting to get high and can't keep their klepto hands to themselves! I've had this happen before and it REALLY put me in a bind. Seriously, how many people who have abused their meds go to the doc and tell them they were stolen?? They hear it all the time so it made me feel like a big loser, drug abuser trying to tell my doc that my meds were stolen because I KNEW he had probably heard it a dozen times before. I hope everything works out and you get your meds okay...although it is technically illegal to DD, you obviously had legitimate reason so I hope everything works out for you. Even though I don't have many unknown people in my home since I live with my husband and son, I still hide my meds...you never know. I DEFINITELY do not keep them in the bathroom. Good luck!
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phinny
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Reged: 04/09/02
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Loc: Canada
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Hi Lisa, I live in Canada and we don't have the same access Americans have, so this question is out of curiosity more than anything. What do you mean by "using a different Op but having the same source?"
BTW - I can't tell you how angry I was to hear of the theft of your meds. I read somewhere about someone who put some tiny ball bearings in their med bottle with a hole in the bottom. When the thief lifted the bottle, they poured out the hole and all over the countertop, onto the sink, and the floor. Everyone in the house heard the racket. Might be a good way to catch your thief next time they decide to steal your stash. I never use the med cabinet for my meds.
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chevygal
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Reged: 04/28/03
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Loc: Way down south
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If your order went through then i don't think I would worry about, it would imagine if they knew you just ordered, they would not process it? That is if i am understanding you right. You used a different op but from the same computer or under the same name, as long as they are not affiliated or use the same doc or pharm it should be okay. I wonder if you were to call and see what is up with your order, say you wanted to know. I am not sure what to tell ya. I am sorry that happened to you. I was accused of that once from a woman i clean for and it ended up being her son's friend that was the theif. I also hide mine as I have teens and I have my kids friends in and out of my house usually all weekend and I never know will be asleep in my living room.:) They are all great kids but I don't trust em as far as I can spit em. Let us know what happens and I hope things work out for you.
chevygal
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Farmer
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Reged: 12/23/01
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I would think if they catch this, rather than make something up, like gee I forgot I just ordered...what's wrong with the truth? They'd likely say they could not fill it without a police report to document the loss. But simply telling the truth (hey my meds were stolen and I hated to spend the money, but I had to get another script because I knew I was too early to refill) would seem like your best bet. The worst they can do is say they feel bad for you but they cannot do it. Then you'd have no choice but to find an unaffiliated doc/pharma to tied you over. You would likely not lose the script, it would just be delayed until you finish up the first one, but at least you are not red flagged for double dipping (I'd hope) Or, you could bite the bullit and do one of the "free/cheap (yet overpriced) places" for this month only.
Don't you hate that. I had a roomate who stole my meds once. I had a legit precription, a legit condition and had rationed myself to stretch out my meds as long as possible. And he took half of them because he said they really helped with his hangovers!!! UGH!!! I feel for you my friend.
Farmer
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Anonymous
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Well there are a couple of things here. First, if you used the same site and it let you through then you should have no problem otherwise it would stop you and tell you it hasn't been x amount of days. Second, if you used a different site with the same pharmacy then either the dr will deny your order and you will get charged the consult fee (if there is one) or the order will go through in which at that point you are in the clear. I wouldn't loose too much sleep over it just be careful next time when you order and keep your meds in a safe place where people can't STEAL them. Hope this helps... 
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prettyday
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Lisa, that is the worst. I have had this situation happen mannny times before I started finally wising up.
1. I don't really tell people how I am any more. Usually I am asked what the doctor gave me, and I don't blurt anything out. They always ask if the doctor gave me anything for pain. Always. Sometimes it is honestly caring and other times...
The next question out of their mouth 6 out of 10 times is, "got any extra?" If I say "No" they manage to sulk and tell me they didn't realize I "Needed" them so much.
Answer:
Yeah. I need them. I am dependent on opiates. At this time. Sorry. Go get your own.
At this point your 'friend' may speak to others of her/his 'disappointment' in you. Their mouth will take on the dimensions of a bill board and the city you live in is suddenly a small, small town.
This is why you don't want this getting back to your boss, landlord, anyone.
2. When you get your new RX, split it up between several empty bottles, you follow? This way, you are not completely wiped out, and the person who takes a 'few' porportionately to the total will have less to choose from if they do find them any way. Remember NEVER to throw out your empty bottles with the labels still on them in your trash. I would not even toss blank bottles in your trash. Toss them in a dumpster or at the laundromat, with nothing else identifying in the bag.
3. I think it is time to bump up the thread on where to hide again! I used to do coat pockets, but I have found out many people do that, from here and just shared stories of found cash, so I drew my own conclusions. There are some excellent and funny posts on this hiding meds- do a search and I promise it will cheer you up. I am still thinking of a good spot....
Luck sweetie! 
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Lisa1967
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Reged: 10/29/02
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Just wanted to update you all. I cancelled my order w/the OP,and heard nothing back(even tho they took the money out of my acct).I am waiting for them to refund my money. This is not the 1st time someone has stolen my pain meds while I was out  I am seriously considering putting a camera in my home.It seems everyone knows where I hide my meds,but there's 2 people in particular I suspect(and they are BOTH related-unbelievable,huh??)
As for using another source-thanks but no thanks.I'd rather be in agony till I get my refills.I can't believe whomever did this,knowing of my conditionwould do something SO low
Thanks again guys(going to take your advice to divide and hide!) 
Lisa
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dollhog
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Well I'm with you.
I no longer tell anyone what I am prescribed. Or if i do I just say it's the SSRIs. No one wants to steal those.
I get tired of "you got any extra?". Much easier to say that I no longer get them at all, just deal with the pain, or change the subject.
This is crucial in a small town where everyone tends to know your business once you tell one person.
I wish you the best. 
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Folksong
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Reged: 07/11/03
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Loc: Texas
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Prettyday and dollhog: don't you just hate it when your friends think the dr. gave you just gobs of extra pills in case they wanted some?? I have tried to explain that I NEED these meds...argh! Lisa: so sorry yours were stolen. I learned a lesson the other night--never set your open bottle of lorazepam on the corner of the sink while taking your nighttime dose...I knocked over the bottle and half my script went down the drain!!
Folksong--
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Daycamp72
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This situation reminds me of when my husband's son visits us. He's 34 years old, waits tables sometimes and lolls around the house stoned all the time. He knocked himself out searching my home for meds the last time he was here. He knew I'd had cancer and was still being treated for it.
I put myself on alert 8 years ago when he stole my Valium - all of them - that I'd hidden in my sock drawer. No wonder he got all excited when hubby and I had to go out of town for the day.
I actually keep my meds in the attic now, buried in the insulation when he's here. Next time he comes, I'm going to do the ball-bearing trick, but with Aleve in the bottle. That's a good one.
Once, I filled an old Percocet bottle with Ex Lax Pills, with the name scraped off the tablet with a razor blade. Poor Best Kept Off The Board. He was in the bathroom all night........
I also keep some old script bottles (from my doc, with the local pharm's name). I travel with this bottle, with the exact same meds in it. It may be two years old, but the meds match up with the bottle and you're legal.
DO scrape the label off all OP bottles before you disgard them. I'd hate for hubby to find a bottle of hydro from a pharm in Florida in the kitchen trash!
The lowest life forms steal others' meds, so have to keep a step ahead of them.
Lisa, I hope everything works out for you. That was good advice about going to one of those No Med Records, No Refill web sites. They are good for emergencies.
Take care.
Chris
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LumbarSpasm
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Wow... I have had "friends" who, once they knew I had back problems then surgery wanted to know if I had any "extra" too. The disappointment when I say, "sorry, I needed them all, that surgery sure hurt" is all over their faces and in their voice.
I feel like Prettyday, if you need pain medication fine, but please go get your own.
It is awful to have to hide your medication in your own home, but it is prudent. Until someone knows what it is like to ration pain control sparingly, they have no clue and no respect for what we go through.
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dollhog
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Aaaargh!!! I did this once, but not with my meds. Believe it or not, I did it with my son's antibiotic for an ear infection. When I called the pediatrician for a refill the nurse actually gave me a hard time. It was ludicrous. I mean for goodness sakes. It was amoxicillin, what could you possibly do with it? . Sometimes some health care providers really have a complex of sorts. Anyhow, got off track. Hope everything works out well Lisa.
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Letherebrock
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I feel for you, I know your situation all too well! After my supposed closest friend asked me if I could spare some of my 40 mg Oxy's, I tried to be nice & give him 3 (which I really needed, I was in terrible pain from a wreck), I put them back in my purse, sat my purse by the couch on the side, and walked into the other room, for like 15 seconds. I came back & my friend was in my sight for the whole time, except when he went ot the bathroom once,till it was time to take my meds again that night. I open my purse -- and my bottle isn't there. I KNEW I'd put them in there. I immediately knew he had taken them. Of course he got VERY defensive. I told him he wasn't leaving till I found my meds. I tore the house up, and found in the downstairs bathroom the bottle, shoved in an empty curling iron box -- EMPTY. So, that was hard proof that he had taken them out. The bottle had that day's date, so it was obviously my new script. I told him if he didn't give them to me, I was calling the police, and they would search him & get them for me - or he could do it the easy way & give them to me himself. He STILL denied it, and said he was going to leave! I started crying, because I was so mad, so upset, that my closest 'friend' could /would do this, esp. when he KNEW that I really needed these, not to mention I had just given him a few to be nice! Once I started crying, he started crying, and admitted he took them -- he tried to say that he was only trying to get one or two more, but I came back so fast from the other room he didnt have time, so he had to take the whole bottle (yeah, right). Anyway, he started dumping them out of his pockets, his SOCKS, and his shoes. I got back all of them but 2, which were MIA. That was the day that I discovered that he was a hard-core Oxycontin addict, and sad to say, he died from an OD a little over a year & a half ago.
Anyway, sorry to stray off so far from the post, I guess I just wanted to share my experience with my meds being taken. Ever since, and to this day, I keep them in my safe. A BIG safe. I take the amt. out I need, and put them right back. Its so unfortunate that people, even family, will go through your stuff & steal your meds.
I will definitely try that trick with the ball bearings, though! That way, you know who would try to take your meds if they could!!
Cheers,
Jen
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537
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I have a story of stolen meds as well, actually my husband's. Anyway, about three years ago, right after my middle child was born, my husband stupidly broke his arm, arm wrestling. His orthopedic surgeon was very liberal with the pain meds, which was good bcause my husband was in alot of pain. So my Mom's old friend, who we hadn't seen in like a year calls up after she heard about my husband and says she wants to see my new baby and offers to babysit for me, blah blah blah. I had no idea she was a major pill addict. So sometime while she and my mother were babysitting for me she managed to steal about 50 Vicodin ES out of about 75. And we know it was her because it came out very shortly that she was addicted. We never said anything to her and she never said anything to us, but after that she bought my son lots of presents. We still see her, just majorly hide the meds. I was so shocked that someone I knew would steal from us. We've never had anything like that happen before. It's a real wake up call.
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quincy
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I hate when your meds get stolen. Its always a really hard situation because its usually someone close to you, like a friend or family member. Thats what makes it so hard to confront that person. You think you know them really well, then they take your meds. You had no idea that they were addicted like that, then BOOM they steal yours. It happened to me, a close family member did that. While I knew they did it, it was so hard to confront them, since they would never admit it. That would be like admitting to the whole family that they were addicted. You don't want to call the police on them, since they are related, so its almost imossible to make the doctor beleive you actually were robbed. When it happened to me, I did nothing. I just made sure that the next time I was around that person I had some ex-lax in the Vicoden bottle. I think that will make the person realize that nobody is fooled by them, and that they can't do that. After she spent 4 hours in the bathroom she never went near my purse again. Soon after she checked into rehab, presumably because she was caught forging scripts.
Have I ever been tempted to take pills? Yes Im human and in pain a lot. I just wouldn't want anyone to do that to me again, so I couldn't take them. Someone is given those for a reason, and they could suffer if you take them. I also hate when you help someone out once in an emergency, then they are at your doorstep every time they have a headache. I made the mistake of helping out a neighbor. She is an ex heroin addict and she was coming off. I offered her a few methadone to help her through it, since I didn't want her to fall back on the needle. She was really bad off, had huge abcesses in her arms and had to get hospitalized. She was trying to detox herself, buying methadone off the streets. I tried to convince her to go to the doctor, they would put her on a methadone program. She finally did, but is still abusing her meds. I finally had to tell her NO, I couldn't spare a few, since my PM doc was managing me now, and counted them. She was disappointed, but maybe she will learn not to take her whole stash in three days. I had to learn that the hard way, and now that I have disciplined myself I realized that its not that bad. You have to stick with what the doctor gives you, its enough to take away the pain. She is using her methadone that is supposed to help her detox to get high. I guess she hasn't hit bottom yet, although I suspect her abcessed arm almost killed her. Well, sorry Im going on and on....
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