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http://www.pharmalive.com/News/index.cfm?
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Here it is folks if this one passes it will turn the op world upside down..
Davis and Waxman Introduce 'Ryan Haight Act' To Fight Growing Problem of Illegal Sales of Prescription Drugs Over Internet
California Teenager Ryan Haight Died in 2001 When He Overdosed On Pills Purchased on Internet Without Valid Prescription
WASHINGTON, February 16, 2005 - House Government Reform Committee Chairman Tom Davis (R-VA) and Ranking Minority Member Henry A. Waxman (D-CA) today introduced the "Ryan Haight Internet Pharmacy Consumer Protection Act of 2005," a bill to thwart the growing and dangerous sale of prescription drugs over the Internet without a valid prescription.
The Davis-Waxman legislation, H.R. 840, amends the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act to address this problem in several steps. First, it requires Internet pharmacy websites to clearly identify the business, physician, and pharmacist associated with the website and the states where the person is authorized by law to prescribe or dispense prescription drugs.
Second, the bill prohibits a website from referring a customer to a doctor who then writes a prescription without ever seeing the patient.
Third, the bill provides states with new enforcement authority modeled on the Federal Telemarketing Sales Act that will allow a state attorney general to shut down rogue sites across the country, rather than only in his or her state.
Ryan Haight, 18, died on February 12, 2001, after overdosing on Vicodin, which he had purchased from an Internet pharmacy without a prescription. This was far from an isolated incident. Americans of all ages have discovered that with a few clicks of the mouse they can obtain powerful drugs like Vicodin, Codeine, Valium and OxyContin from rogue Internet pharmacies without ever having a medical exam or speaking with a physician.
"As we saw with the tragic case of Ryan Haight, the illegal sale of prescription drugs over the Internet can have deadly consequences. This problem is becoming an increasingly serious one, one that requires federal action to enhance federal and state enforcement capabilities. While I do believe the federal government should generally play a minimal role in regulating on-line commerce, this legislation is necessary because too many Americans, especially teenagers, are finding ways to gain access to potentially deadly prescription drugs without valid prescriptions," Chairman Davis said.
"These rogue websites occupy a dark corner of our healthcare system," said Rep. Waxman. "This bipartisan legislation will prevent the sale of potentially dangerous medications without a valid prescription."
In support of H.R. 840, John P. Walters, Director of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, stated: "Over the past three years, youth drug use has dropped 17 percent, but an area of growing concern is the diversion of prescription drugs over the Internet. The unregulated sale of dangerous prescription drugs puts our children in harm's way. Recognizing this problem, leaders in Congress drafted the Internet Pharmacy Consumer Protection Act, which is an important step in protecting the integrity of our medical system and in keeping families safe."
The legislation also has the endorsement of the Federation of State Medical Boards, the National Community Pharmacists Association, the California Medical Association, the National Consumers League and Attorneys General from across the country.
This is the second consecutive Congress Davis and Waxman have introduced legislation to regulate sales of prescription drugs over the Internet. Last year, the pair introduced H.R. 3880, the Internet Pharmacy Consumer Protection Act. The Committee on Government Reform also held two hearings, on March 27, 2003 and March 18, 2004, to highlight the dangers posed by the illegal sales of prescription drugs over the Internet.
The Ryan Haight Act differs from the previous Internet Pharmacy Consumer Protection Act in a few ways. The new legislation clarifies that the Internet disclosure requirements do not apply to brick-and-mortar pharmacies that dispense drugs directly to patients. It also ensures that the legislation will not interfere with large telemedicine programs run by hospitals and group practices that have their own pharmacies.
An identical version of the Davis-Waxman bill will be introduced in the Senate by Sens. Norm Coleman (R-MN) and Dianne Feinstein (D-CA).
Contact:
Washington D.C. Office:
U.S. House of Representatives
2348 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-4611
Phone: (202) 225-1492
Fax: (202) 225-3071
Constituent Service Offices:
Annandale District Office
4115 Annandale Road, Suite 103
Annandale, VA 22003
Phone: (703) 916-9610
Fax: (703) 916-9617
Prince William District Office
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Woodbridge, VA 22192
Phone: (703) 590-4599
Fax: (703) 590-4740
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kandi
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Unfortunately for us, this will no doubt pass. It would also seem to me that ALL OPs will be affected, not just the NROPs, since they clearly state that the problem is that the person is not physically seeing a doc. I could be wrong though. Additionally, this type of scenario could probably be prevented if the NROP at least required a copy of valid ID to verify age, AND if the courier would require ID upon signature for the package. Of course, this could be circumvented through fake IDs, but most states now have measures in place to make them a lot easier to detect. What kills me is this: you have an incident of ONE kid dying as a result of this, and my heart goes out to his parents, believe me, but how many kids a year die or at least end up severely brain damaged because of the practice of huffing household chemicals? Is Congress going to outlaw "Glade"? Yet another case of throwing the baby out with the bathwater, in this crazy 'war on drugs'...
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Remember that the big drug companies have well-paid lobbyists, and the cash flows regularly to the politicos in power. I know they will fight stricter regulation of their products and the outlets that sell them. I am optimistic that there will still be OP's. Can't hurt to keep a good thought...
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This all comes down to one thing: PERSONAL RESPONSABILITY. These 2 simple words seen to escape a great deal of American citizens. If each of us were to take responsability of our own actions then big government would'nt have to stick it's fat nose in everything we do. My state motto is "Live Free or Die" and IMO that is the only way to live. We are constantly being told we have to be saved from ourselves. For goodness sake! Enough already!
Do I feel bad for this person's family? You bet. BUT this person was 18 years old. He was an adult according to these same people making all these restrictive laws. I would like to hear one of them tell me which one is true:
A) At 18 years of age you are an adult. You can vote, buy ciggaretts, fight for your country, and go to big kids prison if you commit a felony.
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B) All people, no matter what age, are all idiots and congress has to hold our hand at every turn.
I am so fired up right now. This issue affects us all. OP users or not. Its just one more click of the handcuffs put on by the tyranny of those in office.
I work, I vote, I pay taxes and I am a cronic pain patient who is about to undergo back surgery. I own a home and raise my child to be a good person. But I am afraid of what this world will hold for her when she is my age. Scary.
America is the greatest country in the world & I would never want to live anywhere else. Just please let me live my life in peace & comfort. If nothing I do hurts anyone else then let me get on with it. Live & let live. Just stop telling me what to do or not do!
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kandi
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This all comes down to one thing: PERSONAL RESPONSABILITY. These 2 simple words seen to escape a great deal of American citizens. If each of us were to take responsability of our own actions then big government would'nt have to stick it's fat nose in everything we do. My state motto is "Live Free or Die" and IMO that is the only way to live. We are constantly being told we have to be saved from ourselves. For goodness sake! Enough already!
Do I feel bad for this person's family? You bet. BUT this person was 18 years old. He was an adult according to these same people making all these restrictive laws. I would like to hear one of them tell me which one is true:
A) At 18 years of age you are an adult. You can vote, buy ciggaretts, fight for your country, and go to big kids prison if you commit a felony.
OR
B) All people, no matter what age, are all idiots and congress has to hold our hand at every turn.
I am so fired up right now. This issue affects us all. OP users or not. Its just one more click of the handcuffs put on by the tyranny of those in office.
I work, I vote, I pay taxes and I am a cronic pain patient who is about to undergo back surgery. I own a home and raise my child to be a good person. But I am afraid of what this world will hold for her when she is my age. Scary.
America is the greatest country in the world & I would never want to live anywhere else. Just please let me live my life in peace & comfort. If nothing I do hurts anyone else then let me get on with it. Live & let live. Just stop telling me what to do or not do!
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YOU ARE RIGHT! I am ashamed to say that when I first read that article I didn't have my glasses on, and I thought it said he was 16, not 18! My teenage son had the absolute right to walk into a Marine Recruiting Office and enlist during wartime...was I happy? NO, not initially..but he was over the age of majority and he is doing what HE chose to do, and I am proud as hell of him! The kid is legally an adult...whether he chooses to do drugs or join the USMC!
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AngelWolf13
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kandi,
i am proud of your son too! (but you already knew that) and i am proud of YOU and your family for bringing up such an outstanding american who is willing to fight for my freedom, unlike some other families who want to do the exact opposite- take away my freedom....
do i feel sorry for this other family? no! i'm sorry of this seems cold and crass or if it offends anyone, but i am being honest. that's why these stupid laws get passed- everyone feels sorry for the family! why should i have any sympathy for people who would take away my freedom? truthfully, i can't! nobody forced ryan to do something stupid, he did this all on his own, and he paid (a steep) price for it as many people do when they decide to do stupid things. i am tired of feeling sorry for people who want to selfishly pass laws to ease their conscious that would hurt me in the end. i refuse to hop on their bandwagon "pity party". i know it is not politically correct for me not to feel bad for the family. so be it.
i expect to lose some respect from other members for writing this post, but this is not a popularity contest, and i have to say what's on my mind. everyone is entitled to his or her own opinions and feelings and i respect everyones thoughts. please, don't hate me for expressing mine.
love to all.
sincerely, angel
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Sehr gut.
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One of the reasons I happily turned to the OP? The "Brick-and-Mortar" pharmacies have undergone a huge change in the last years...and then I learned to be sensitive to anytime I felt judgement from a pharm tech, this took years, you know, I was so naive...have you all read about Walgreens? Rite Aid? Walmart? THEY HATE filling opiate prescriptions...you are lucky if you get out without one disparaging comment....try to fill your RX the night before you run out in the morning? Comment will be made...I picked up Altziemer's (sp?) med for my mom, heard it right in front of me...trembled at the thought of having to go back...I am not certain what I would do...
The older I get, the more I "love" myself, not egotistically, but as one of God's creations....it is not up to another child of God to diminish my joy in existence simply because I have pain this time around...we gather and protest when a criminal is about to be executed; how many people choose to die in silence from pain no longer certain to be relieved...
My dears, can you tell me the difference? Because I don't understand.
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Angel, You certainly didn't lose my respect, in fact you gained it by having the courage to speak your mind. God knows I did enough stupid things when I was 18 that I am lucky to be here today. If I had died (and I should have) there would have been no legislation enacted named after me. I was just another stupid "adult", making another stupid decision.
How many college students die each year from alcohol poisoning? I'd bet lot more than die from drugs ordered on the internet. Are we outlawing alcohol? Didn't we already try that? According to the history books it was not a rousing success.
Responsibliy for you own actions. That's it and IMO if any underage kids are getting drugs from the internet it's their parents fault and I don't feel one iota of sympathy for them, as a parent of teenagers, it is my responsibility to know what they are doing, it is not the government's responsibility to babysit them for me.
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this would be a tremendous undertaking?
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kandi
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kandi,
i am proud of your son too! (but you already knew that) and i am proud of YOU and your family for bringing up such an outstanding american who is willing to fight for my freedom, unlike some other families who want to do the exact opposite- take away my freedom....
do i feel sorry for this other family? no! i'm sorry of this seems cold and crass or if it offends anyone, but i am being honest. that's why these stupid laws get passed- everyone feels sorry for the family! why should i have any sympathy for people who would take away my freedom? truthfully, i can't! nobody forced ryan to do something stupid, he did this all on his own, and he paid (a steep) price for it as many people do when they decide to do stupid things. i am tired of feeling sorry for people who want to selfishly pass laws to ease their conscious that would hurt me in the end. i refuse to hop on their bandwagon "pity party". i know it is not politically correct for me not to feel bad for the family. so be it.
i expect to lose some respect from other members for writing this post, but this is not a popularity contest, and i have to say what's on my mind. everyone is entitled to his or her own opinions and feelings and i respect everyones thoughts. please, don't hate me for expressing mine.
love to all.
sincerely, angel
Angel, I so appreciate your kind words about my son...he definitely an 'OOORAH' Marine now, knows he is going to the sandbox, it's just a matter of when. I do however feel a great amount of sympathy for the family merely because as a Mom, I cannot imagine the devastation of losing a child..it's just not a natural thing, be it honorably, or through youthful stupidity. I DO understand your feelings about them starting an all-out witch hunt on OPs, instead of facing the truth that their son died by his own hand. He could have just as easily purchased the drugs on the street, but because it was an OP, they need a scapegoat to take the blame to alleviate their own guilt. It simply isn't right that they are exploiting their son's death in an effort to try to get ALL OPs shut down, as a means of shifting the blame from their ADULT son to the OPs. Hopefully, there won't be a total 'shutdown', but I do look for some changes to be made in the way these places operate. Time will tell, I guess...Kandi
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bankshot, i am so relieved! i was almost afraid to view this thread again. i was half-expecting to get flamed left and right for my (what probably seemed to many like a) cold-hearted outlook of this situation. i'm really not an insensitive person, quite the opposite, in fact... i don't know... maybe i'm just too tired of paying for the mistakes of others to have much sympathy anymore... seems like after a tragedy, people start coming up with all these excuses for it and not placing the blame where it truly lies, and i don't like it. like if i found out that poor adolph hitler had a troubled childhood it still wouldn't change my opinion of him.
kandi, ahh, i always smile when you mention your son! he's going to make some nice girl real lucky someday, esp. with a cool mil like you. and i respect your sympathy for ryan's family. it's just that, in this particular case, i am unable to share your commiseration. your compassion for humanity is highly commendable. i wouldn't have it any other way.
cheers, angel
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kandi
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Angel, you said I would make a cool MIL..are you SURE you didn't mean MILF? LMAO....(wishful thinking here..LOL)
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Therion
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Do you think Davis and Waxman would have ANY trouble getting ANY drug they wanted at ANY time? Nope. They don't give a HOOT about Ryan Haight. Here's what they give a hoot about: VOTES! It's politics as usual. More laws passed every year. Here's something for everyone to consider: There are TENS OF THOUSANDS of government officials whose continued employment depends upon NO permanent solution EVER being found for the problems WE pay them to fix. Think about that one, folks. And regarding Ryan Haight: The esteemed author, Robert Anton Wilson, once said: "Hydrogen is not the most abundant substance in the universe. Stupidity is." We have FAR too many morons on this planet. When that number is diminished by one, I am not sad. Several years ago, in my state, some kids found a bottle of mercury. These were seniors in high school. They dipped cigarettes in the mercury and smoked them in a moronic attempt to get high. They died. Do I want people like this breeding? Nope. Did the collective intelligence level of the planet rise a bit upon these idiots' demise? Yup. Harsh, but true.
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kandi
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Do you think Davis and Waxman would have ANY trouble getting ANY drug they wanted at ANY time? Nope. They don't give a HOOT about Ryan Haight. Here's what they give a hoot about: VOTES! It's politics as usual. More laws passed every year.
Here's something for everyone to consider: There are TENS OF THOUSANDS of government officials whose continued employment depends upon NO permanent solution EVER being found for the problems WE pay them to fix. Think about that one, folks.
And regarding Ryan Haight: The esteemed author, Robert Anton Wilson, once said: "Hydrogen is not the most abundant substance in the universe. Stupidity is." We have FAR too many morons on this planet. When that number is diminished by one, I am not sad.
Several years ago, in my state, some kids found a bottle of mercury. These were seniors in high school. They dipped cigarettes in the mercury and smoked them in a moronic attempt to get high. They died. Do I want people like this breeding? Nope. Did the collective intelligence level of the planet rise a bit upon these idiots' demise? Yup. Harsh, but true.
The answer to your first question is a resounding HAYULL NO, just as it is for the docs that won't prescribe proper pain meds even when they have an MRI up on the viewer and are telling you you have about 10,000 things wrong with your back! If that [censored] orthopedic surgeon that I had last year had the kind of pain that I had, he would be on a morphine drip in a NY minute! I have to disagree with your rather Darwinian view of foolish behavior on the part of our youth, though. I was a child of the seventies, and believe you me, we did some REALLY stupid stuff in our misspent youth...and I still turned out okay ( well, sorta! LOL). Unfortunately for Ryan Haight, his foolish mistake cost him his life, as well as many of my fallen comrades...lost one of my very best friends at the age of 22 because he ate a POISON mushroom by accident in Hawaii. I do agree however, that the blame lies squarely on the shoulders of Ryan Haight, not the OP that sold him the vics. Not to mention, I seriously doubt that the script said to take 10 or 20 or however many he may have taken at one time to cause the OD.
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Therion
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I was a child of the seventies, and believe you me, we did some REALLY stupid stuff in our misspent youth...and I still turned out okay ( well, sorta! LOL).
As did MANY of us. But the issue of personal responsibility is paramount in this situation. It just really rubs me raw that ALL of us must be punished due to the misguided actions of one not-so-smart young man. Every single action Haight made was a choice ... from accessing the World Wide Web to taking that handful of pills, HE chose to do what he did. It's not our fault, yet we will all be affected by his actions.
My very best to your son, Kandi. I was drafted during Vietnam and I know how very nervous and concerned you must be. Although I thoroughly DESPISE the unfeeling idiots who got us into this miserable conflict, I utterly respect the military people who have to bear the brunt of this lunacy. May your son remain safe and healthy.
Regarding Ryan Haight - it's VERY interesting that in all the stories about this guy, it's RARELY mentioned that he had other things in his system besides the pills he allegedly ordered ... things which potentiated the narcotics he ingested. I always find it so ridiculous that when someone dies of combining pills and alcohol, one NEVER hears senators and their despicable ilk saying, "We must get rid of this perfidious alcohol." Hypocrites, all!
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kandi
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I was a child of the seventies, and believe you me, we did some REALLY stupid stuff in our misspent youth...and I still turned out okay ( well, sorta! LOL).
As did MANY of us. But the issue of personal responsibility is paramount in this situation. It just really rubs me raw that ALL of us must be punished due to the misguided actions of one not-so-smart young man. Every single action Haight made was a choice ... from accessing the World Wide Web to taking that handful of pills, HE chose to do what he did. It's not our fault, yet we will all be affected by his actions.
My very best to your son, Kandi. I was drafted during Vietnam and I know how very nervous and concerned you must be. Although I thoroughly DESPISE the unfeeling idiots who got us into this miserable conflict, I utterly respect the military people who have to bear the brunt of this lunacy. May your son remain safe and healthy.
Regarding Ryan Haight - it's VERY interesting that in all the stories about this guy, it's RARELY mentioned that he had other things in his system besides the pills he allegedly ordered ... things which potentiated the narcotics he ingested. I always find it so ridiculous that when someone dies of combining pills and alcohol, one NEVER hears senators and their despicable ilk saying, "We must get rid of this perfidious alcohol." Hypocrites, all!
And on ALL of that we can agree, my friend...on a kind of funny aside, my Marine was a heavy metal guitar player and songwriter for four years before he joined the military, and looked EVERY INCH THE PART, from his dark, thick Robert Plant-esque hair,(that he ended up donating to Locks of Love after growing it for 5 years) the nosering, and a big tattoo of his Goth model Gibson SG that he designed...but he was a STRAIGHTEDGE kid that never drank, smoked or used any type of drugs...cut to last weekend at Camp Pendleton..a bunch of them went down to TJ and got drunk on horrible cheap Tequila...LOL, a rite of passage, I guess. "Hey kid, you're a Marine now..let's go out and get DRUNK!" And I thank you for your service, also! I can't help but feel that when the boy came home on leave at Xmas time, he got a *tiny* taste of what it must have felt like to be a VN vet...EVERYWHERE he went it seemed, people felt the need to come up to him and say stuff like, 'I hate this war, and I hate the military!' It definitely demoralized him...He tried being reasonable about it, saying stuff like, 'TYLER A****** doesn't believe in the war either, but PFC A****** is going willingly to take care of the guy beside me'. That still didn't work, and I would have to PM you the response that we came up with to this sort of nonsense, so as not to offend the board, but it was pretty funny, and left a lot of ppl with their jaws on the floor! ;-)But I digress..I could talk about my very special boy all night long, and I am home all alone and sure don't wanna get kicked outta this joint! 
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Angel, you said I would make a cool MIL..are you SURE you didn't mean MILF? LMAO....(wishful thinking here..LOL)
naughty, naughty! *tsk, tsk, tsk*
actually, i'm LMAO! 
***giggles*** 
hee hee! 
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Kandi, All I am going to say is.. Thank you for your son's service. SEMPER FI!!
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PugDog78
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I know Im off subject here but...what is Semper Fi? I've always wondered.
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oldandwise
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I know Im off subject here but...what is Semper Fi? I've always wondered.
Semper Fidelis". The Motto of the United States Marine Corps. Latin for always faithful. Faithful to God, Country, Family and the Corps. ...
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What I don't understand is how passing laws making it harder to get prescriptions for painkillers is going to benefit these politicians? I realize that sometimes they are abused, but I think that most people are relieved when they are in pain and have a compassionate doctor who pulls out the prescription pad and gives them vicodin. One never knows what life is going to deal them. The people that vote for these politicians may find themselves in horrible pain someday with no way to get relief. I would think that it would be a very unpopular thing to try to restrict chronic pain sufferers from getting their meds.
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kandi
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Like Therion said, it all comes down to VOTES, and there are most likely more people that have heard the sensationalized stories like that of Ryan Haight, or of the docs handing out Oxycontins like M&Ms with lines wrapped around the block, etc etc etc. than there are chronic pain sufferers...people that hear these stories that DON'T have chronic pain issues simply have no clue as to how hard it is for us to get relief using the tradtional medicine route. If they did, they would probably be horrified...not to mention people seem to be completely uninterested in researching a topic on their own unless it affects them directly, so they are happy to take the distorted versions that the media spoon feeds them. How many stories have we seen that say that OC is READILY AVAILABLE online? We know that that is BUNK, but the average TV news viewer doesn't...yanno what I mean????
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Kandi, I agree completely. The media would have us believe that all you have to do is point and click and get oxys delivered to your door at breakneck speed. They (and non-CP sufferers) have no clue how difficult it is to get appropriate treatment for our pain.
As an aside, i'm proud of your son, and pray that he returns home safely to you and all of your loved ones.
By the way, AngelWolf (a little off topic here), forgive me if this is inappropriate...but if your avatar is a picture of you, then my Lord, you are a beautiful woman! (Meant with utmost respect and appreciation).
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Therion
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What I don't understand is how passing laws making it harder to get prescriptions for painkillers is going to benefit these politicians?
Here's how it benefits politicians: The politicians know that most American voters are CATTLE. They know that most American voters don't know ANYTHING about the nuts and bolts of major issues. That's because the media, for the most part, takes the lazy approach and emphasizes sensationalism over research. American politicians KNOW that prohibition doesn't work, that it never has and that it never will. Therefore, they are losing the War On Drugs to such an extent that they will do ANYTHING to APPEAR "hard on drugs" to the uninformed, uneducated voting public.
So, since the W.O.D. has almost negligible effects on the importation of cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine, etc., and since the politicians know this, they go after EASY targets: doctors who are compassionate with their pain patients; on-line pharmacies and doctors; NROPs, IOPs, etc. That way the politicians get the ALL IMPORTANT headlines and can say, "See, I'm fighting DRUGS!" Then, your average uneducated, ill-informed voter will vote for the politician under the mistaken assumption that the politician is "fighting drugs." The uninformed, uneducated voter SORT of knows that "drugs are bad," and that "fighting drugs" is good. They're not exactly sure WHY they know this, but it's been drummed into their heads by the politicians and the media so they have an ill-formed and nebulous viewpoint.
In a nutshell, this is how fighting pain doctors, pain clinics, OPs, etc. enhances the politicians' appeal to the uneducated, ill-informed voter. And believe me, the more uneducated, ignorant and ill-informed you are, the better the American politician likes it. Makes his or her job a WHOLE lot easer if he or she can just go on TV or radio and spout platitudes rather than talk facts. Facts bore the average American voter. Sensationalism doesn't. Sad but true.
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alphie
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Right on! JeanneLynn & Kandi.
Speaking generally, our politicians are lazy and selfish.
The soccer mom who comes home after a long day of hauling her kids around decides to take a bottle of wine and the paper into the bath to relax. As she gets drunk and reads the paper, she sees a sensationalized story about a kid's OD and immediately forms an opinion about the issue. What she doesn't see is a story concerning the thousands of people with legitimate needs who are undermedicated and discriminated against, whether it be in the doctor's office or at the pharmacy, and her own dependence on alcohol, which kills more people yearly that prescription meds ever will.
Our politicans cater to these people and this mentality. It is deplorable. Why does selfishness so often win over what's "right" (i.e., the decision that BENEFITS the greatest number of people)!
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