TLT
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I have recently met a person that goes to a PM clinic, he had to sign the agreement as well. His Dr has him on oxycodone 5mg 6 per day. He stated that he has been a pt there for over a year and has never been called in to verify his meds, but did check his blood work, once.
I'm having a hard time believing that an Er Dr would write these scripts all on one paper. I agree with Scott on this because it is illegal for a pharmacy to fill a scheduled drug if there is more than one med listed on it.
Even if the Dr screwed up you would think the pharmacist would have caught it.
My pain mgmt Dr, gives me 5 different scripts each month, on seperate script paper, 2 are scheduled meds, and 3 aren't, He uses the scheduled prescription paper for the meds that arent scheduled. i just wonder if the pharmacy, at some point ever mails these scripts back to the Dr, so that they can catch any fraudulent scripts?
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Boobetty
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IT'S sad for sure...my PMD just told me at my monthly apointment that he might longer going to help me...he said that since Malpractice insurance has gone up so much in our state, people lieing about the meds they get...personally I think he just can't bring himself to give EVERYONE a pee test, he thinks it's degrating and distrusting.. he is rethiking the whole thing...he said I would get a letter soon about what to do but gave me enouph meds for two months...so sad what is happening in the contry..why??? who is doing this? sad for me cause I don't know how I am going to live with pain the rest of my life but I guess I will have no choice but to always use Online operations and go to the ER.....costly and agravating.. good luck to you all...Boobetty
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Stacy
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The number of meds on a single paper depends on the state. In my state you can write II or III on a script with other meds. My doc has a script form that has about 5 lines on it and has a number for refills by each line and the number is circled. There is also a line for the number of scripts that are supposed to be on that paper. My doc has written scripts for one II and one III and two non-controlled drugs on one script and the pharmacist has never blinked an eye. My doc never writes individual scripts.
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IMSUSCOT1
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Which state? Wasn't aware of any that allowed sched II to be written w/other scripts...
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TLT
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Scott, I thought that was a law throughout the US. I might be mistaken, my bad stacy, I only know that in Ky IN, and Tn, that they have to be written individually.
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Stacy
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I'm in Alabama.
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stemstabber
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I am in Washington State and my Doc writes two or three narcotic meds on one script all the time. He has been doing this for 6 years that I know of. He is kinda old and he does give real large amounts too. He was the University Of Washington Football Doc for years, so he thinks everyone is a football player and needs massive amounts of meds I guess. My wife saw him for a little foot pain and he gave her 50 5 milligram vikes with 4 refills. We almost fell off the chair in his office. He actually asked "Will that be enough" But he is also m PainDoc and I NEVER signed anything. All he has done in two years is he made me look him directly in the eye and tell him I was not selling my meds. Guess he thinks he is physcic (SP?)SO I guess Washington is a little bit easier than others. B didnt states in the midwest get alot of press about Oxycontin abuse a few years back?? Good luck to all and Pain free days and nights!!!!!!! 
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IMSUSCOT1
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but are any of the narcs sched II--if so which ones is he writing?
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stemstabber
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He writes every month scripts for oxycontin and oxycodone arranged with others all on the same script. Been doing it for 2 years now with never a problem.I almost went to a OP but they wont write Schedule II meds. Like I said, Washington has real lax prescription laws on some things. Just dont go to Walgreens. They are the Hitlers of the Pharmacy business. Hope this helped a little...
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Before I get attacked by the "Thread Police" In my first post I said I knew of him doing this for 6 years and in my second post I said I knew he did it for 2 years. I knew he did it before I went to him because he was writing for my sister and she always came home with this script that was FULL of meds. I have been going to him personally for 2 years and he ALWAYS writes everything on the same scipt. I just wanted to clear that up before I got accused of anything. In reading alot of Posts over the years I see that some people just love to point out discrepencies in some peoples posts. Anyway, have a great weekend but dont move to Washington State we are currently Full. No more homes to be had. We are FULL!!!!  Stem
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IMSUSCOT1
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well Geeze! First you tell us, "Washington has real lax prescription laws" and THEN you tell us not to move there....my friend, let the exodus begin.......
and honestly...I was just curious...Peace ok?
Edited by IMSUSCOT1 (06/24/03 07:14 PM)
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stemstabber
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Hey,
Its all good. I was just funnin. As long as Boeing keeps laying workers off all the time, we will have all kinds of homes for sale here. So cmon up all you CP'ers.
We could take over the state and start our own pain laws!!!!! I really have to stop thinking out loud.hehehe. Peace to all
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fatso
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I didn't know the laws were lax here. I haven't even attempted to request OxyContin since doctors generally won't even write an Rx for Xanax or anything more than 10
5-mg hydrocodone. It's pathetic. Consider yourself lucky. It's so frustrating. When I lived in Arkansas, I requested Xanax. The doctor wrote a script for 5 2.5-mg. Incredible, just incredible. I feel like cursing now.
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Anglwink
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yes IMSUSCOT1, there were 3 scripts on one prescription, but only 1 of them was a schedule II narcotic, so yes, they can do that, my Dr. does it all of the time. Now if it had both percoet & oxycontin or something, that is a different story because they are both schedulr II meds. You guys have to understand, that just because you never seen or heard of these things happening, that they are not true! Isn't that what this board is for, each others OWN experiences??? Lets not be so quick to judge others! My Dr. ALWAYS writes my scripts on one page. Anglwink
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Anglwink
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Not a law throughout US, maybe certain states as my Dr. writes multiple scripts on on sheet all the time. Anglwink
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spider628
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I'm new to the pain management scene. I went to a PMD on June 4. After he diagnosed me with facet joint syndrome he said narcotics were not indicated for this type of pain. I had just signed a contract in his waiting room re narcotics. Now I'm waiting to have a series of injections, etc. and am in a lot of pain continually. Maybe after his treatment, I'll be better. If not, maybe then he will consider some meds to help. Right now, I'm feeling kind of hopeless about the situation. This is why I use OPs occasionally.
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Let me guess - corticosteroid injections? PMDs are becoming less inclined to prescribe narcotics for joint pain more and more as the years roll by. I can identify and empathize with your situation being through three steroid injections, mountains of NSAIDS, physio, ultra-sound, TENS, blah blah. The "Narcotics are not indicated in this situation" line is like a drill into the side of my head. I would like to give them my shoulders and see how fast they change their tune. GRRRR . . . I'm turning huge and green.
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IMSUSCOT1
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I'm not judging anyone...and I'd be willing to wager a hefty amount that the states where sched II's can be written w/multiple meds per script could be counted on 1 hand...I'm an RN..so don't just rely on the info I obtain from this board...Are there states where multiple meds can be written on a script w/a sched II..obviously there are, it's not the norm and the fact that there are a few anecdotal accounts of it doesn't suggest otherwise....with regard to "judging" someone...if your referring to my earlier comments regarding the "story" about the gentleman who was supposedly arbitrarily cut off of 300 mg of oxycontin/day for the minor infraction listed..I stand by my comments...there were other reasons that story lacked credibilty...that's not judging...that's using judgement...big difference
Edited by IMSUSCOT1 (07/09/03 07:40 PM)
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IMSUSCOT1
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Your PM doc is nuts! Pain, is the indication for narcotics...epidurals aren't indicated for facet syndrome either, radio frequency ablation is...so he needs to get his story straight...I think you need a PM doc whose working with info from the current century...JMO
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moonbeam
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I know that here in Georgia, my husbands doc writes his monthly dosage of 60 Mepergan Fortes on the same prescription sheet that he writes his 120 Lortab 10/500 on. Both on the same sheet (like maybe the doc is trying to save the rain forest or something). No problem getting it filled in a Georgia pharmacy, but when he went to Florida to visit his parents, he could find no pharmacy in the Orlando area that would fill the script the way that it was written. Just a little personal experience to share.
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IMSUSCOT1
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Lortab is Sched III....
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seanyboy
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My Goodness, this is the first time I've ever heard of the contract agreements. I live in Florida and have been on a schedule 4 (Darvon) for over18 years, and occasionally get prescribed a schedule 2 during severe times. Personally I'd be pretty put out if a doctor asked me to sign such a foolish agreement. This is the USA not USSR.
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dixierose
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I just had my first visit with my PM doc on the first of this month. My agreement didn't state that he could call me in at any time to count my script...but I do have to bring my scripts in to any appointments that I have, such as the epidurals that I am getting next month. I suppose they will count them then. The agreement did say that I was to use the same pharmacy, that I wouldn't obtain narcotics or other controlled drugs from other doctors, that I wouldn't take more than prescribed, that I wouldn't trade or sell my medication, and that I could be called in for a urine or blood test at any time. I have no problem signing that agreement if it means I will recieve help with my pain.
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TLT
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dixierose, I had no problem signing it as well, since It has been a nightmare finding a Dr to treat me, especialy with a narcotic regimen.
My agreement also states, that I must use the same pharmacy to obtain all of my scripts. I use walgreens, and on two different occasions they were out of my main pain med, and said it was on back order, so I had to go to kroger and get it filled. I did check with my Dr, and he said it was not a problem and understood the circumstance.
Have a good day
Terri
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