effie1
Journeyman
Reged: 11/03/04
Posts: 88
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yes they are and i think we all know who it may be! a disgruntled person that couldn't be a mod maybe? how about someone that used to be a mod but left? how about a bunch of different theories but one is a person that knows photoshop , has a website and knows the forums! lol
I hope the mods at DB come along and delete this whole ridicolous thread as it is bashing and flaming a reputable company that advertises here and has maybe had a few rough edges during transitions and etc but the bottom line is they take care of their customers and if your records are accepted or they need more and you provide them then your all set!
C.S would never give out your private information period!
The mods would never edit profiles like that they are to busy! and the mods do not have access to your medical records as implied above anyway.
can one person here that is bashing nww say they are not angry at them for denying service for inadequate records and or banned? NOPE! any info on this person she or he posted him or herself and is there for anyone to read! How dare anyone say patty would release private info!
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bucket
Journeyman
Reged: 04/03/04
Posts: 62
Loc: wisconsin
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it's all gone. the name is still there but, the profile was cleaned up.
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Acid
Banned
Reged: 01/11/04
Posts: 54
Loc: Georgia
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It's there, but they have covered up the evidence now.
Here is the screenshot as of 5 minutes ago:
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Regards,
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Acid
Banned
Reged: 01/11/04
Posts: 54
Loc: Georgia
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is this one good enough to prove it can be forged in photoshop and altered in photoshop as you yourself said you had it in? not saying you did it but i believe someone did.
Hah hah, not hardly. You are not making any sense. If I was the one who posted it, how could "someone" else modify it?
I think you were just sent over here by the clique to get the topic off of Patty's behavior and onto whether I modified the screenshots. Several members have confirmed that they saw the original screenshots so it is a MOOT issue.
I won't respond to any more of this kind of accusation.
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Acid
Banned
Reged: 01/11/04
Posts: 54
Loc: Georgia
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Heh - get a grip there, that is not pywackett's profile. It is the profile of somebody who is MAD at pywackett. And in revenge for that, the NWW mods put in the other stuff. Make sense now?? Sure, they can ban someone for making rude remarks, but the thing is a mature mod would just unceremoniously do the ban and not go making childish comments in the profile. Those profiles can be seen by anyone.
They also hijacked the accounts of banned posters and posted under those members' accounts. Those threads can be seen (just the titles) if you go to search, search on a mod's name, choose "UserName" as the field to search on, and it will show ALL the threads that mod participated in, even the ones in the secret Mod Area (Woo-Woo).
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trelaina
Member
Reged: 03/27/03
Posts: 108
Loc: thereabouts
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I don't know why I'm responding on this thread since I no longer use NWW (caught up in the drama, maybe ). But I have to comment that I don't think anyone has a problem with the policy for updated records. That is not the issue here. The issue is unprofessionalism on the NWW message board by moderators. I just read a long thread over there where it seemed every moderator came in and ganged up on a new poster. I frequent a lot of different message boards and I have never seen anything like that. Moderators are supposed to help keep the peace, not perpetuate the flaming.
And I don't know why photoshopping keeps coming up. Acid did not photoshop that information...I saw it with my own eyes. Now, whether or not someone hacked the forum and inserted that info, I do not know. But I don't see any reason to continue to theorize about photoshopping.
JMO
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snowsparks
Newbie
Reged: 02/13/05
Posts: 38
Loc: Wisconsin. Usa
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its all been cleaned up and fast i noticed.
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brittlauran
Journeyman
Reged: 02/21/05
Posts: 85
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I didn't have a problem with the new policy either. I had a problem with the fact that they could have notified the patients at the last consult or last refill. I also had a problem with mods. calling me a bonehead, a liar & other ridiculous things. Be professional. If you know that people are going to need more things because of policy changes notify them, don't let them find out when it is time for a consult. Professional OP's would do that I would hope.
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cloudy
Member
Reged: 11/07/03
Posts: 184
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HOw would you know ??????? It seems like your the one faking things and hacking into the nww board. WOW, you must really have something against them.
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effie1
Journeyman
Reged: 11/03/04
Posts: 88
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jen please stop the madness. I am out!
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brittlauran
Journeyman
Reged: 02/21/05
Posts: 85
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I hope that you weren't referring to me Cloudy, because I don't even know what you guys are talking about to be honest. I have posted my bad experience with NWW after many months of a good one. It just seems that things are in transition over there right now & they should inform there clients via email or by phone if policies are going to change. I got caught in the shuffle & left in dark with nothing but people spreading lies about me, calling me a bonehead & etc. I still think that it would be proper to have notified people well ahead of time about these mini-consults. It was ridiculous the way that it was handled.
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Acid
Banned
Reged: 01/11/04
Posts: 54
Loc: Georgia
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HOw would you know ???????
Because that user TOLD me, dude.
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It seems like your the one faking things and hacking into the nww board. WOW, you must really have something against them.
If you mean to say "you are", as in "it seems like you are the one", then the proper word is "you're" ("you are", see?)
And I am not hacking into anything. That is illegal. I am a member and any member can see everything that I see.
We just can't post because they ban you for posting ANYTHING that doesn't first say:
"I love everybody here and thank you all for the kind words and NWW gave me my life back and thank God for NWW Patty she has helped me SO much when the pharmacy sent my order to the wrong address for the 5th time in a row and I just think of everyone here as so positive and all these people saying negative posts should just be banned. And thank you all for thanking me for thanking you for the kind words. And I love you all and you are most welcome for me thanking you for thanking me."
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ktscarlett
Newbie
Reged: 11/06/04
Posts: 30
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Has PY reincarnated herselF?
Enough inuendos that almost anyone can figure that out...
Don't people have anything better to do w/ their lives than be caught up in a "cheap" soap opera circus?
Shame, shame... get a real life.
And shame on the powers that be if this indeed a reincarnation......
Does this mean this cr*p will never end?
I know I am not the only one who has had enough of this rah-rah pettiness!
As I stated before, put a "temporary" end to your forum, get new mods, ENFORCE rules of etiquette and comon sense. do away w/ the "cutsie coversations between the mods", stop traeting your clients like uninformed consumers, and PLEASE!!!! KEEP YOUR DISCUSSION THREADS OPEN!!!! No more, "Oh weell, finished here. Closing. If --- wants to continue, he can open a new thread!" What a waste, it makes no sense, other than giving MODS an ultimate POWER trip...having WAY too much control!
Jibberish, no matters resolved.....Pointless.
And I AM a NWW client.... I just NEED to see some major improvements, since I am really starting to "Wonder what the heck is all the secret (society) involved in? Probably all on power trips.
I am just voicing my honest opinion, no serious threats, allegations made, therefore no worry, I have done nothing wrong that would eventually lead to the oh, so dreadful "banning".
kts
Edited to add: I do strongly support my constitutional right, guranteeing me my right of "Freedom of Speech" that our Forefathers gave us......
Edited by ktscarlett (03/08/05 02:05 PM)
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brittlauran
Journeyman
Reged: 02/21/05
Posts: 85
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Acid,
That cracked me up & made my day. I got banned for simply stating that they should have notified patients in advance about these mini-consults, which I shouldn't have been a part of. I posted something else about how I was told different stories by different CS Agents. The next thing I know I am banned & they want a paragraph signed by my doctor & all of these mods. like the individual that you mentioned that were really nice to me are calling me a bonehead to other members in PMs. You get banned for stating that they should have handled the change in policy differently? (which shouldn't have applied to me anyway & I was never notified of?) Yet posts remain up about Lillians Axe is back are left up on the site???? Niiiiice. This is hardly professional. Mods. calling you a liar to another member of NWW & saying the things that were said. It's alright to admit that one is at fault. If they are changing policy, you email people well in advance of time or call them. They did neither. There is no excuse for that. We are dealing with medications here not Junior High School.
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brittlauran
Journeyman
Reged: 02/21/05
Posts: 85
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Agreed KTScarlett,
We have talked to you about your situation even though we didn't inform you until you had to call when it was time for your consult. There is nothing that we can do. Sorry that your records were good for 9 months, but today you call and they aren't good. I guess that they want bad overnight. Topic closed. We will talk bad about you & close this thread. We will also ban you, so that you can't read what others are saying about you in the thread about you. Your thread is closed. We are right, you are wrong. If you would have run out of meds. you should have saved some in those months. If you want another OP go to it. The last 2 lines were real lines that I was told after it was all nice & cutsy up until that day. Make it a professional board, get rid of the current moderators & make it a professional site with professional people.
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Acid
Banned
Reged: 01/11/04
Posts: 54
Loc: Georgia
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No more, "Oh weell, finished here. Closing. If --- wants to continue, he can open a new thread!"
That is probably THE most aggravating thing. (Well, actually the backslapping and buttkissing is worse, but this is at least in second place). If you notice, the more that there is a real CS issue, the more quickly the thread is locked.
I swear, I think sometimes there was a class at NWW called "Reverse Moderating 101". Open a new thread for the same topic? A no-no on every other forum in the universe. "Bump" a thread to the top? Another no-no on EVERY forum. Delete posts just because you disagree with the opinion? That's not moderation. Moderation is making sure everything stays civil and on-topic, without personal attacks. Banning people without warning first? WTF? I give these mods an "F minus".
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IrieVibe
Journeyman
Reged: 09/21/04
Posts: 88
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EFFIE1 wrote:can one person here that is bashing nww say they are not angry at them for denying service for inadequate records and or banned? NOPE!
Yes Effie, I can - I wasn't denied service nor was I told my records were bad. I was just totally fed up with NWW, the final straw was me calling in for a consult (yes, I know I'm sooo stupid to have even thought about consulting again with over a years worth of mess out of NWW, but I'll say again, this was before I knew about DB and my alternatives and this consult was to have been free of charge - read on...) and Patty demnding that I pay NWW a very large sum of money to "reimburse" them (man what a laugh that is) for something that an NWW staffer did to get my medication to me after NUMEROUS mistakes made by NWW on this paticular refill, even potentially deadly mistakes, with a controlled medication. I beleive this staffer knew how much trouble NWW was in with this situation and was willing to remedy it regardless of the cost to them.
So, I've no axe to grind with them because I *lost* something, I was ripped off by over a years worth of frustration, a huge long distance bill, meds always late or not at all, meds delivered to totally wrong addresses (not even my address but someone elses clear on the other side of the US etc, etc, I could go on for days with all they put me through) However, I wasn't stopped by them at a point where I hadn't FINALLY, due to my demanding over and over again and a ton of my time, getting what I should have gotten WITHOUT the hassles, I attribute ALL of the goodness that came from NWW to the one and ONLY KIMBERLY!, whatta gal she is!! At the time I left, I had all of my fills and was out no actual money (except for long distance charges, which was a bunch, but it's rare you can recoup all losses), they did leave me with a credit on my account (that Kim had done for me due to all the mistakes NWW had made) that I was not allowed to use, (they owed me a free consult and free shipping), but I will not keep quiet when I know people are here to find out the good, bad and the ugly when making their choices regarding an OP.
I don't think this thread is out of hand at all - I think people are using other OP's and feeling freer than ever to expose NWW for who and what they are.
Y'all should stop the paranoia, thinking anyone here who takes the time to try and relate their experience is *out to get NWW* who has time for that? I belive it's just that we don't want to see anyone else fall for their mess. I think the screen shots have now proven to be for real and the stories that are coming to light real as well.
Has Patty been terminated yet? IMO that is the only appropriate action for anyone who works for them or volunteers for them (mods) who has breeched the confidentiality of the consumer. If your local Dr.'s office had these kind of issues, I am certain you would find that staff member in the unemployment line and a very nervous Dr. who just might find themselves being reprimand by the licensing board.
Enough of us feeeling like we only have one place to go to get the medicine we need - finally OP land has choices that are broad enough for almost every pocketbook and need. At one time NWW was on of very few *top notch* providers, but the competition is out there and we just don't hear this kind of thing from them at all.
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BamaChica
Board Addict
Reged: 05/28/04
Posts: 309
Loc: AL by way of Cali..culture sho...
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actually that is quite easy to see its been altered, it isnt like the 1st one. where you altered the words, the grey background is erased out and is now white. it isnt the same as the first, and Im not a sucker, I dont usually believe stuff till I see it, and Im not a NWW hater, but i can say I believe that first screen shot to be real.
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DrugBuyers
Administrator
Reged: 11/18/01
Posts: 1302
Loc: DrugBuyers.Com
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Anyone could have changed that profile and a profile means nothing unless you know the story begind it. A lot of members here have very strange profiles. We change member profiles when they are a pest :-) or when the profiles are too much!
All NWW moderators please do your moderation at NWW
All NWW bashers: go away.
All posters: post you opinion once. There is no need to repeat the same thing over, and over, and over
Thank you for your support
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Please do not PM me about non working or lost usernames and passwords.
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jjt6
Journeyman
Reged: 07/20/02
Posts: 63
Loc: South
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Wow, after reading all these posts, I'm kinda lost as to the original problem. I guess Patty is sorry she posted an apology. I remember when you could talk to Kimberly on the phone. Like another member posted I'm sure with their size problems do come up. I've had some at holiday times and one other time and got help from Chris here at db, and one time from Stephine at NWW forum.
I had to use their forum once and got confused, but did get help from Stephine. There have been times when they were better than Amonzon. I've had consult and meds in hand in less than 22 hours. That's great.
I'm not defending any things they have been accused of here, if true.
But I'll tell you one thing, I am out of town working and considering trying to contact someone at NWW to see about getting refill sent to different address. Now I'm scared to even try that, won't be home till end of month and don't really know what I'll do now. Guess I'm up the creek with refill due thrusday the 10th, and not getting home till the 28th.
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sally_ny
Journeyman
Reged: 09/04/04
Posts: 64
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is this one good enough to prove it can be forged in photoshop and altered in photoshop as you yourself said you had it in? not saying you did it but i believe someone did. 
I don't know about the others but this one you sure can tell is changed. The backgrouds do not even match!
As for Patty.... I wish someone would show me where she gave personal info on anyone, I have seen the threads and have not seen any personal info, names, phone #, addresses, or medical records shown to anyone. CSR are the only people that should have access to this info. NWW mods should not even have this info on people.
FYI...I do not even use NWW but this thread is just a little crazy, seems to me someone people just have it in for NWW.
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Anglwink
Veteran
Reged: 04/29/03
Posts: 610
Loc: East coast
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My fonts look like that cause i did it quickly and didn't match the fonts but could have very easily and still can. just wanted to show that it can be done in paint or paintshop! I truly will never believe any mod did that at nww! that is ridicolous! They have better things to do then that. I just want people to be objective and know that it is possible to do just about anything on a computer and you have to be weary of what you read and see.
The why don't you listen to him and go to the forum and check for yourself? Even if someone did do this in paint (which I doubt) how would it get in the members info page on the forum?? hmmmmm.....Anglwink
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DrugBuyers
Administrator
Reged: 11/18/01
Posts: 1302
Loc: DrugBuyers.Com
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The profiles are not important at all
There is nothing wrong with changing a few profiles and it does not prove any breach of privacy
What is private are the medical records and the customer information.
The profiles on the message board are public information.
I am banning Acid for making too many posts about NWW. Saying the same thing over and over is SPAM.
We would like to mention that the feedback on NWW is excellent, we have no mediation requests for NWW, and everything seems to indicate they are as good as usual.
They do have a problem, serious problem on their board, we do not know what the problem is, (maybe it is the moderators, the spammers, or a combianation of both), but we are sure they will resolve it soon and that we do not want those problems to move into our message board :-)
NWW informed us that they will have a new forum online this week. Just wait a bit and use the other ways available to contact them!
Please start new threads to discuss any topic you want to discuss
Thank you for your support.
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Please do not PM me about non working or lost usernames and passwords.
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