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AngelWolf13
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this will be my olny post today i can't check replies for a few days, but i hope sooner
something bad happenned sunday i went to er by ambulance then i came home byt yesterday i had bad migraine and then iwent tp hospital and they wouldn't give me demerol becausethey said it was "evil'.
so then they give me REGLAN DO NOT LET THEM MAKE YOU TAKE IT! they put in iv inmy arm and i felt like i was going to die. i wanted to scream and tear up the er and i was scared and i couldn't keep still but i STILL have a bad migraine, it was the very worst expreince i have ever had! and it keep on getting worse. they said i didnt react like side effect of reglan, but THEY LIE! please don't let them make yo take reglan!
then they give me benadryl in iv and i calm down even thouhg i don't like benedryl, but i still have migraine. finally then they put morphine in iv and i felt better my head. i still had migraine but it was from a 10 to a 3 so i wanted to go home so badly. dr wrote a rx for fioricet3 which is good, but today i still feel terrible and anxiety. dexedrine isn't wroking, god i hope this goes away soon!
i am too antsy to typw. i am sorry i didn't amswer a lot of pms, but i will when i can. typing is bad and i want to go lie down. i just don't want anyone to go through what i did so i have to write this. i feel like im going to be lik ethis forever and i want it to go away.
i just wanted to let you know no one should have to go theough this EVER! they said demerol is "evil" i am seriuous! demerol makes my migraine go away. REGLAN IS EVIL
if someone can post this on vip board for me, that would be great because i just want to go to bed. if not, i will later when i feel better, just everyone has to know about this!
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soothsayer
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I am so sorry to hear about your day Angel...
I wish I could offer any advice but I know it will just have to run it's course...
You are in my thoughts...I hope you feel better soon!!!
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jumble
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I realy feel for you,I have had many bad experiences with drugs doctors have given me.I know what you mean by wanting to tear the place apart,the only thing I can stand to take anymore are benzos.My wife was given a shot of that while going into labor and it scared the .... out of her.Sorry and it will wear off.
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jenerator
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Angelwolf,
Why in the world did they give you reglan (metoclopramide)? Were you vomiting? I know my migranes can make me vomit. But reglan is for nausea and heart burn. I used to take it because I had a stomache problem where I would throw up every morning. It really helped for that. WTF were they doing giving you that medication in replace of demerol for a migraine? If they were so worried about the evil demerol why didn't they try imitrex, morphine or even dilaudid. You may need to file a complaint for improper treatment (unless you were vomiting or were extremely nauseated).
Here is a description of what this drug is for:
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Reglan increases the contractions of the stomach and small intestine, helping the passage of food. It is given to treat the symptoms of diabetic gastroparesis, a condition in which the stomach does not contract. These symptoms include vomiting, nausea, heartburn, feeling of indigestion, persistent fullness after meals, and appetite loss. Reglan is also used, for short periods, to treat heartburn in people with gastroesophageal reflux disorder (backflow of stomach contents into the esophagus). In addition, it is given to prevent nausea and vomiting caused by cancer chemotherapy and surgery.
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I'm very sorry and angry to hear about your treatment experience. It really makes you wonder what state our medical centers are in when they aren't treating a patient based on their symptoms.
J
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jpolito165
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i too was given raglan intead of demerol for my migrane, i found out it is becace the drs. get a good mark up on the ragland demerol is very cheap...this is what i was told by an er nurse, i still suffer, now i am getting compazine and ativan, still in pain
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jenerator
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/01/050111092717.htm
I stand corrected.
After reading jpolito's e-mail I thought I would take a look and see if Doctors were commonly using this to treat migraines. Sure enough they are. (see web page above)
This doesn't really change my opinion on their choice of medication in Angels treatment, it just means the Angel really couldn't complain to them about their giving her improper medications. However when someone goes to the ER because they are in so much pain it's not really appropriate for them to use you as their lab rat. That would be the time for them to use tested methods or methods that have worked for you in the past.
There are medications like Imitrex that are specifically made for migraines. There are also medications that are specifically made for pain. They could've used one of those right away.
I still have grave concerns over medical treatment methods applied when Doctor's fear the DEA.
Jen
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AngelWolf13
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good news! my seized package got reshipped at no extra cost to me! it was such a surprise! i had e-mailed my "iop" to tell him that i got the love letter and not to worry about it, it was the risk that i, myself, chose to take, it wasn't his fault and i just wanted to make him aware of the seizure. he reshipped with a TON of extras. i could just KISS him!
i spent the day feeling like crawling out of my skin. confused, forgetful, and anxious. obviously, my adhd didn't help (dexedrine didn't help either, i never took the rest of my daily doses!) especially as i must have seemed twice as hyperactive than usual. i do not take very well to benzos, they make me feel bad. i now have a new and greater respect for people who suffer from anxiety. i mean, i've always had sympathy for people with GAD and etc. but until you've walked in their shoes..... that was worse than "7-8" rated pain! now i am triply enraged with so called "doctors" who fail to treat anxiety properly and effectively! my very best wishes to all who suffer from anxiety disorders.
here is exactly what happened to me last night, as best as i can remember. (i saw my original post and am appalled. i give all who responded credit for actually understanding it. thinking about editing.) i had a "10" migraine. i got sick once, but since i didn't eat anything, after that i was only nauseous. demerol, which i haven't been given in years, has been the only thing that got rid of my migraine 100% of the time. morphine usually does, but last time it didn't. it lessened it but i had to take pain meds the next 2 days to alliviate it.
because of all the physical problems i have had over the past month, which, in turn, caused me more migraines than usual, plus my seized order, i had run out of meds. remembering that the morphine didn't "cure" me last time, and that i was completely dry, i asked them for demerol. they said it was an "evil" drug and was only given in the direst of circumstances. but since you "don't want morphine" "we are going to give you reglan". i've never heard of it but they told me it would cure not only my nausea but the migraine itself. they never mentioned adverse effects or anything. i was so desparate i would have accepted euthanasia! I HAVE LEARNED MY LESSON!
you can see what the reglan did to me in my first post, so i do not have to explain it again.
though the benadryl they gave me (seemed like hours!!!) was the "antidote" i was still shaky and hurting. after they i.v.ed me the morphine i was calm enough and my migraine had subsided enough to actually go to sleep. i wanted to escape out of that hospital like my life depended on it! i never, ever want to go to a hospital or see a doctor again for any reason!!!!!!
i woke up this morning, my migraine was gone (thank god!!!!!) but i felt very weird. i couldn't figure it out at first. seems like the morphine and the benadryl wore off before the reglan did. perhaps i'm allergic, i don't know, but i don't want anyone else to chance experiencing that horrible, horrible experience unless that particular drug is absolutely necessary for the condition FOR WHICH IT WAS CREATED or as an absolute last resort! trust me, it was not intended to get rid of a severe migraine like that sob doctor had implied.
sooooo, i gave it some thought tonight, as terrible as i was feeling i did remember that the morphine helped to alleviate the bad effects of the reglan. i figured that if i took a couple of codeine pills, just enough to get rid of the shakes, i'd feel better. i hate taking them for that, and from now on i promise that i will only take them for pain (btw, i am still in pain, but the anxiety trumps that big time!). it helped a LOT, which is why i am able to write this post, but i hate to take codeine for anything other than pain. i feel like i am being dishonest or breaking some kind of rule. "codeine only for pain. codeine only for pain."
my deepest gratitude to everyone who was able to respond. i will reply back in a separate post as my posts are usually so long-winded, as this one is, that i am afraid of scaring people off from reading it.
my love to all of you, angel
p.s. i will try to answer all of my pms tomorrow if i feel better. you (members of this board) are the best, bar none!
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AngelWolf13
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contd. from last loooong post....
soothsayer, you are such a sweetie, always making my day brighter! thank you! i saw your pm on my list and i will open it and repy tomorrow. xoxo 
jumble, thank you. and congrats on your new (?) baby. i am a little worried that they gave your "better half"  reglan. i desparately pray that it did not effect your baby. i am probably overreacting because of my recent trauma. i will read up on reglan and most likely there will be no adverse effects whatsoever on the baby. i just still feel insecure and uneasy (side effects).
jen, i thank you too. you are a very caring person also. i used to take imitrex (only the shots worked for me) but had to stop because they didn't interact safely with my dexedrine (nervousness, burning, heart-skipping). plus, imitrex only worked at onset, when i got the aura or a little afterwards. it was ineffective for a full-blown migraine. by that time, it is too late. i completely agree with everything you posted. EVERYTHING! and i'm angry too.... thanks again, hon.
jpolito, after what i have been through with that neorontin nonsense, i believe every word you say implicitly! infuriating!!!!!! i am sorry you do not get the help you really need when suffering from migraines. i can understand the compazine, but ativan????? what the ----??? won't they give you morphine at least, or is that "cheap" too??? i feel so bad for you, it is truly unfair! i thank you for sharing that with me.
with love, angel
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cehrriins
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AngelWolf - I know I'm new here and I've never posted anything directly to you, but. . . Oh My Lord! There is not an adjective good enough to describe how upset I was to read your first post. I've had some pretty shoddy treatment in the ER (me and my stupid gall stones) but your experience takes the cake.
I've had a few migraines in my life. I can barely handle it in the comfort of my own home. I can only imagine how bad it must have been for you in an ER exam room. And then the whole medication thing. . .so Demerol is evil, huh? What a bunch of -- well, I really can't post words like that in this forum. You're in my thoughts today, AngelWolf. Hang in there!
Erin
Edited by cehrriins (02/24/05 07:27 AM)
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armywife
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Angel, I have the exact same reaction to reglan, which most doctors want to try first before anything that actually works for migraines. I have been told that I have a sensitivity to reglan, just shy of an actual allergy. Just remember the next time you need to go to the ER, when they ask you about allergies, list reglan as a sensitivity at the same time. I hope that you never have to deal with that horrible reaction again. I also get it from IV compazine, but I do fine with oral compazine. I know that I am wierd, but I really hope that you fare much better the next go round.
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cascadia
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Start listing Relan as an allergy, also Morphine.
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AngelWolf13
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hi erin, thank you for your understanding and support and your well wishes. i feel much, much better today! you know, it didn't used to be like that in the er. it seems like lately thse new resident doctors are being taught a bunch of baloney and true empathy for the suffering patient is at an all-time low. if this is the trend, i shudder to imagine what the future might hold! this wasn't the first resident doctor at that er to express extreme distaste for demerol. a little over a year ago another doctor simply stated that he didn't believe demerol, period... that he would never use it under any circumstances. at that time, i thought that was very unusual... demerol was legal and available at that hospital, but if the doctor felt like playing god, well we are at him mercy. he suffers from his messianic complex, we suffer from his megalomania. i guess that's why they take that hypocritic oath. thank GOD i am finally stocked with enough pain meds to keep me out of that er hell for quite a while. for migraines, anyway... thanks again, hon.
armywife, that is excellent advice! wow, so you went through the same thing. of course, i am sorry that you had to go through that torture, but i do feel better knowing that i'm not alone on this. when questioned, the "senior" nurse said that reglan does NOT cause that type of reaction, making me feel like something was wrong with ME!!!
oh, no! RGELAN could not have possibly had that effect on anyone. it took another nurse forever to try to convince the senior nurse to convince the doctor that i was having an adverse reaction... like i was faking it or something. i was begging for an antidote, even though i "knew" that a cure was impossible (the reglan made "normal" feel impossible, hard to explain). anyway, i will definitely list a sensitivity to reglan when filling out ANY medical form! thanks for the guidance! (btw, you are NOT weird)
cascadia, i will definitely list reglan as an allergy. the problem with listing morphine as an allergy (besides the fact, of course, that i'm not allergic to it) is that if i say that, and the doctor "doesn't believe in demerol", then they will try out a new miracle drug called "xockixosticopia" which is undertested, possibly lethally dangerous, but "non-addictive"! it will have been shown to have pseudo-pain killing properties and mildly analgesic effects which have been shown to relieve migraines in 15% more lab rats than placebo in double-blind tests. possible adverse effects include jaundice, tremors, facial tics, anxiety, headaches (paradoxically), numbness of the extremities (rarely permanent), paranoia, suicidal thoughts, temporary blindless, loss of sex drive, brain damage, and in rare cases, heart failure. BUT it is non-addictive!!! ...........um..... i'll take my chances with the morphine.... thanks for the post, hon.
love, angel
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