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JeffyLube
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I have yet to try either of these for chronic pain. Currently I take Lorcet 10/500, and have used Vicodin and Lortab, basically all the same. Just wondering who all has tried Oxy, what strength, and how well did it work?
I would like to try to find it available online, but from reading everyone's posts, it seems like the mexrxonline.com site is the only one that you "might" be able to buy it from. Has anyone bought Oxy from there, and if so, did the transaction go ok and did the medication seem to be of a decent quality?
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poppyale
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You are not going to find that stuff in op's,There may be some iop's that might have it but it would be sky effing high,and then there is always that chance of ot getting it seized by the u.s. government!!! So if I were you If you really need something that strong for your pain relief,you might want to think about going to a pain management clinic/Dr.
BUT yes the answer to your other Question OXYCODONE IS BETTER THAN HYDROCODONE FOR ME,but other people disagree and they say the exact oposite!!! IT JUST ALL DEPENDS ON THE PERSONS BODY CHEMISTRY!!!!!!!!
Everyone reacts to every substance differently!!!
For instance Hydrocodone Peps me up and alot of other people,but I also know people that can take 1 10mg lortab and within 1 hour they will be passed smooth out!!!!
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Karrie515
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Like poppy said, each med has different effects on people. I was taking 20 mgs OxyContin twice a day and Lorcet 10 for BT pain. Quite frankly, I think the Lorcet helped more. But, on the downside, Im one of those people that it made me kind of sleepy.
Oxy, on the other hand, worked for about the first 5 days I took it and then I guess I built up a tolerance to it that quickly. Also, it kept me awake and made me wired. And yes, I took it the right way, didnt crush it, etc. Its time released and supposed to last 12 hours, but I was hurting again in about 6 or 7 hours. I really dont know what all the hype is about with oxy, I never had the euphoric feeling, its overpriced and I think there are better pain meds out there. But once again, everyone is different. Just make sure that if you begin taking oxycontin and decide to stop, please taper. I tapered off of a rather small dose over a period of 3 weeks and did fine. No w/d whatsoever.
As far as getting it online, I wouldnt suggest it. If you have pain bad enough to warrant the med, I would go see a doctor.
Good luck-
Karrie
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dws1
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I just sent you a recent post but after reading this I just wanted to ask how many lortab 10's do you have to take at a time? I have to resort to lortab when I run out of my oxycontin too soon. Chronic pain can not be treated with lortab, vicodin etc. on a long term basis because of the effect the tylenol will have on your liver. That is why Purdue can up with MS Contin, MSIR, Oxycontin and now sustained released dilaudid. Percocet also has alot of tylenol. You could get lortab 10/325 2 pills 4x daily 240 pills a month, I think that is the maximum abount. I know that my op writes for that but I have multiple conditions.
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Eeyore27
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To be honest, I'm scared to death to ever try OxyContin! I take hydro 7.5/325 for back pain when needed. There are days when I just grin & bear it with the pain, and others where I rely on the hydro. I think I'm just afraid of having a dependency issue in general, since I'm already taking a benzo for anxiety & panic. I'm such a baby that I won't even take my anxiety meds until I know for a fact that the hydro's worn off, but just the other day I had a really scary experience.
I was coming back from a job interview in an area that I'm really not all that familiar with, took a wrong turn and that fast I was LOST. Since I had taken hydro the day before, I didn't take my anxiety meds that night, so the next day when I got lost, I went into full blown panic attack mode. It got to the point to where I had to pull over and call my sister to not only try to get directions home, but also to calm me down!! So I haven't taken hydro since the other day, and while I was feeling the pain today, I just couldn't break down and take one, because tomorrow's the day I find out if I have the job and 2nd interview with this place. I don't even know if it's safe to take a benzo say, 10 hours after you took a hydro. But I'm going off topic, yet again, sorry everyone...
Isn't Oxycodone Percocet? If that's the case, then yes, I had them once after having a wisdom tooth extracted and they made me puke my guts up. Others have said the same about hydro, but hydro doesn't affect me that way and I would rather have that for pain than Percocet any day. JMO, of course.
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jack_in_ca
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Oxycodone is indeed the active ingredient in Percocet (along with acetominophen). I really don't understand why it's perceived as such a powerful drug because, for me anyway, it's no more effective or potent than hydrocodone, it's chemical "first cousin." In fact, I think hydrocodone is a little *more* effective. But I suppose everyone responds differently, so it may be a really potent drug for some people.
As for taking your benzo and hydrocodone together, I wouldn't hesitate to do so (and, in fact, have done so many times, on the advice of my doctor), as long as I don't have to drive or do anything requiring alertness. If you've been taking either or both meds for any length of time you probably have sufficient tolerance to use both, in medically appropriate doses, without any trouble. I am not a doctor, of course, and your best guidance on this would be from your doctor, but it is not uncommon to have them prescribed for concommitant use. In my case, the doctor says that sometimes the best way to manage a severe migraine is (in his words) "to get good and sedated" with my Lortab and Valium. I must emphasize, though, you must NOT drive or engage in any hazardous activity while on these meds.
Peace,
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cucupuffs
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its just like dope in a pill....all of these opioids (pharms) stem from the opium gum they slit the bulbs on the poppy plant to get which is then refined into morphine,double refined into heroin they usually call opium,and heroin opiates and the medical more synthesized meds opioids but its all the same...hydromorphone,oxymorphone,and fetanyl (duragesic) are actually stronger then heroin mg for mg....so we all a bunch of propped up uppity dope fiends....hehehehhe...in new york the word dope means (heroin) only...i know in some other states they call all drugs dope or weed dope but dope is (heroin) here...ever read any of william burroughs stuff..his first book called junky about the old school junkies of the 50's..hehe..he rants and raves about the harrison narcotics act....heh...good book go fet it...
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Eeyore27
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Jack,
Thanks for the info, and the reassurance. I only take my anxiety meds at night time, they help me to find my "off switch," since this is when I have the tendency to overanalyze things to the point to where I can't get to sleep at all. If I did manage to fall asleep, I would wake up having panic attacks, weird, irrational thoughts would creep into my head (I'd have feelings that something horrible had just happened to someone in my family or to one of my friends) and I wouldn't be able to get back to sleep. This was something that I suffered with for years before I even knew what was wrong with me.
But most of the time, I wouldn't even get to the point to where I could fall asleep, because that's when the "I wonder why, I wonder if, why can't I, why are things this way, etc." questions would start and after that, no sleep for me. I just chalked it up to me being a worrywart and tried OTC sleeping pills, but nothing seemed to be effective for what was going on with me.
It's almost as if the stress that occurs during the day hits me all at once as soon as I try to get some sleep. It's something that I've never been able to explain, but after I started experiencing panic attacks during the day, the doctor that I was seeing at the time prescribed me Xanax, with the directions to take one in the morning and one at night.
At the time, I was working with children, so dosing myself in the morning wasn't an option, plus, as you pointed out, there's no way that I could drive a vehicle while taking it. So I was just sticking with my nightly dose and the effects from the meds lasted long enough into the next day to where I stopped having panic attacks during the day and also getting a good night's sleep.
Now, since my recent aggravated injury and relying on hydro for pain (which I take in the morning and thankfully don't have the drowsy side effects from taking it), I was afraid of taking my Xanax at night because I didn't want any unwanted or potentially dangerous side effects. I don't take the hydro every day.
Like I said earlier, it's like my "last resort" option for pain, and since I've been taking Xanax for about 4 years now, I know the dangers of what could happen if I suddenly stop taking it at all, but I haven't had any really horrible side effects from not taking it other than not being able to get to sleep at night and the panic attack I mentioned earlier.
I've heard horror stories about people taking seizures, hallucinations and twitching. All that happens to me if I don't take it is that I can't sleep and my anxiety & panic disorders aren't under control.
Since I don't have med insurance, I really don't have a doctor to talk about these things with, other than the doctor that 2 of my sisters work for, but I haven't mentioned the fact that I'm still taking Xanax or started taking hydro to any of them because if it were up to him, I'd be on Zoloft (which I've been on before and doesn't work for my anxiety & panic at all) and a non opiate painkiller for my back condition (which would be fine with me, if any of them actually worked!!).
That's why I pay an arm and a leg for meds through OP's, but it's good to know that it's OK to take them both, since your doc has told you that it isn't dangerous to do as long as you're not going to operate a vehicle (which I would never do, anyway).
Sorry for the rambling, and thanks for the info/advice. It puts my mind at ease, believe me, but I'm still going to do some research about it on the net, which is something that I probably should have done a long time ago, considering that I've probably caused myself some unnecessary pain & anxiety by worrying about taking them the same day.
Thanks & Take Care ,
Eeyore
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cucupuffs
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just don't peel the time release coating and crush them up and swallow them or chew them or snort them thats how those people died cuz they would get a hold of an 80mg oxycontin which is equivilant to like 16 5mg percocets and they think cuz its like the same size its just like a percocet so they chew it down or whatever meanwhile they have a low opioid tolerance and are only use to like taken 2 percs or 2 vikes at a time.....
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Eeyore27
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cuffpuffs,
You don't need to worry about me doing any crushing or snorting my meds. I take them responsibly, as directed. I'm not trying to get high, just trying to get some relief .
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cucupuffs
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its just highly addictive to the body mind and soul because its runnin through u 24/7...i aw an old chinese lady in a detox in the hospital for being on oxycontin ...she wasnt lookin to get high either...heh...it was only intended to be used for cancer patients but purdue pharm. started pushin it on the docs sayin to give it to all pain patiens so they can make their money and the docs get the kickbacks for each script they write..thats why all the law suits are going on now because purdue pharma. didnt put a warning label on how addictive it is and how bad the withdrawls are...and now they have it in generic form i heard..and now purdue is tryin to make a new contin with hydromorphone as the pain killer in it.....lol.....u know how many addicts and deaths that ones gonna cause if the ole fda passes it for an extra few bucks..lol...purdue are just legal dope peddlers and they made alot of money pushin their dope cuz its real expensive...price of a cancer med but given to regular pain patients...heh....them guys from purdue. are nice fellas huh.....these pharm. companies got pull in the political game too....
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Eeyore27
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cucupuffs,
I know about the Pharmaceutical companies and their kickbacks all too well, as I have both family members & friends who work for doctors. They like to play the "prescribe this med" incentive game and guinea pig patients at whose expense? The patient, of course!
But if you scroll up & read my first post, I mentioned that I've never tried Oxy & am scared to death to take it. In my area, there was a huge scandal involving a doctor who was basically "selling" scripts to people, we had quite a few deaths among the teenage/young adult community, so the strongest thing that I'm ever going to take is hydro, and I don't even take it every day. I'd rather suffer with pain than be an addict, but that's just my own thing.
Addiction runs in my family, and I have a sister who is addicted to hydro, so I take them for pain and pain only. As a matter of fact, I went for months just taking the Ibuprofen before I finally broke down and ordered the hydro, so that should give you an idea about how reluctant I was to start taking it again. I had it prescribed short term to me once, and since it was the only thing that worked for my pain at the time, I finally broke down and ordered it. I hate to sound like an old stick in the mud, but at my age, I'm not looking to get high, so I strictly take it for severe pain only.
Thanks for the warning though, hopefully some of the other posters in this thread will find that information helpful to them.
Take Care,
Eeyore
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cucupuffs
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yea i saw the big xanax poster on my shrinks wall and he kept tryin to push it on me but i wanted the klonopin cuz i heard its safer...so i finally took his godamn xanax and its maken me depressed so i called him today telling him that and that i wanna go back on the klonopin and he started chactor assasanating me...he was like"to be frank this sounds very suspicious and this and that like i was just ttryin to scam him for more pills...he said so what are going to do with the xanax and i tolf him throw them out..whatever...and he was like your on medicaid i said yea..and then since he saw i wasnt a good cash cow he said no u have to wait to come see me on ya next appointment just dont take the xanax if their making u depressed...the guy is an old senial gook who thinks he too good to shake your hand....now hes pissin me off i cant sleep or anything either...hes trying to deflect his little hidden agenda on to me..hes pushin xanax which is the main drug of choice among benzos of addicts on people then hes tryin to say im tryin to scam him like im an addict...????like i have a hidden agenda he should look at his....i wonder how many of his patients he has hooked on that garbage....
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Eeyore27
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cucupuffs,
Whoa, I'm surprised to even hear that your doctor is even prescribing you Xanax, since most will only prescribe them short term. My old doctor that was prescribing them to me cut me off without notice and put me on all sorts of different antidepressant meds like Paxil, Zoloft, Wellbutrin, Lexapro, none of which worked for me at all. For me, Xanax is the only med I can take that effectively controls my anxiety. I've been on Klonopin before, as well, but I had impulse control issues with that med, don't know why, but that's just how they affected me, personally.
As for the benzo's, to hear of a doctor "pushing" a benzo on a patient is relatively unheard of around my way. I don't know where you live, but due to the fact that benzo's in particular are highly addictive, most doctors won't touch them with a 10 foot pole anymore. I can relate with you about the depression, that's what Paxil did to me, to the point where I was suicidal, and I was being treated for anxiety, not depression with suicidal tendencies.
If I were you, I'd try to find another doctor. I know that, technically, it's illegal to "doctor shop," but if this one is trying to force you to take a medication that is making you feel depressed and discriminating against you because you're on Medicaid, then your case falls under special circumstances.
This doctor sounds like he is just setting himself up for a potential lawsuit, since you mentioned that you're having depression symptoms from taking Xanax, and advising any patient to quit a benzo cold turkey like that is just absurd!! God forbid you were to harm yourself (which I hope you don't!!), your family could sue this guy right out of his practice. I can't believe that any doctor would treat a patient so horribly, and I thought that I had my own horror stories about what doctors have put me through personally, but nothing that could hold a candle to what you just posted.
My advice would be to taper off the Xanax instead of quitting cold turkey, doing that could cause you to have horrifying withdrawal symptoms. Once you start doing that, get out your yellow pages and look for another doctor in your area that takes Medicaid and, hopefully, after you explain your current situation with the doctor that you're seeing now, he or she will try to help you with your situation. If that doesn't work, I'd consider consulting a lawyer and/or threatening to get the media involved. No doctor wants to hear the word "media", even if you don't plan on going through with contacting the media with your story, a lot of the time, a doctor will just about poop his pants at the very thought of his name and practice being mentioned negatively in the news. Just some suggestions, hope they helped.
Good luck & take care,
Eeyore
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johng
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the biggest reason people "think" it does not work. It is because wwe become so use to the euphoria that comes with short acting meds. We get used to the ups and downs with the SA med. we assume "ahhh alittle lite headed i am getting releife" while OC has wicked with drawl for the physical dependant patient it has less of a physcological aspect because we dont get those highs every copule of hours. it does work and work very well
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dws1
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How much does anyone really kmow about the purdue drug study programs. My old Doctor who is very well respected f so or some reason in this community. pobably because is is fighting against the DEA for the rights of pain patients, had me on 5 160mg oxys a day and then started to add oxyir and the 40mgs to the mix. well he raised my tolerance soo high It took me 3 years to get down to 3 80s aday and do doc will prescribe that amount in this area anymore. i found out that he was doing a drug study, the definate proof came when he invited a few of his pain patients to a gathering at his office and there were purdue reps there and did a video tape of how i felt that the drug was working for me and its side effects which supprisingly were almost none except insomia. well i got so upset because I am now almost always in pain. I don't know if I could do anything about it. I sure purdue is almost untouchable, and the drug does work when patients use it properly, but what do can I do now that I can not get the amount of medication I need for the month? I am 28 have had spinal surgeries, and Marfan's syndrom which I will eventually have to have surgery for. If there is anyone in FL out there that knows of a good doc I could use the help. And no the Doc i was seeing did not get in trouble and is still praticing i looked him up on the internet and he has a huge ad!
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cucupuffs
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thanks....yea im not "hooked"..i was on the klonopin for 2 months then he just switched me to the xanax..the klonopin works best for me but he gets his kick back from xanax as i saw the poster on the wall....
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penny67
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I have used the oxy but get very sick from it.I also have a script fot the hydromorphone"dilaudid" but it makes me break out and itch horribly.I did get major pain relief from the "d" but they switched me to another med.My mom is a rn at the local hospice and has told me that when enough morphine gets into your system and builds up and with benzos there too is the way alot of docs help their terminal patients die.Thats a sad thing and if you think about it I wander if it is safe to use narcotics with benzos for long term.I have been very sick with bone and spinal disease most my life.I hurt like hell almost constant and had a recent hip replacement but still value my life as I would think terminal people do too.Im sorry for rambling here I just worry about the pain meds and benzo cocktail.Please be very careful and if anyone would like to chat some please pm me.I will always respond.Well I hope you all get better and may God bless you all!!!Goodnight.
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Chef40
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I have used Dilaudid as well, but only in IV form.
It is a good drug for pain IMO, but I dont know of any
OP's that carry it.
I'd like to find the pill form somewhere as well, then I could possibly remove this IV port.
I dont find oxycontin as good or as long lasting as Dilaudid or MS, but the MS makes me really sick to my stomach.
But I have had really good luck sometimes with just
hydro 7.5/750.
Chef
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chain
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i did 120- 140 MG. daily for a few years almost 4 years. with around 10-15 MG xanax daily . never missed a day of work, worked like a horse.
then weened down with clonazapam, and hydro,
im 30 days + clean,
that was the toughest 30 days of my life.
but should i have OD`d, maybe? think your metabalism, and high threshold help.
hell i was getting 100 20 mg`s oxi`s for 800.
wont ever do it again, but loved every minute of it.
but im a rather decetant kinda guy.
stay stronger than what you play with my freinds.
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