AvpdMatt
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What do you mean "don't take the pxxs.?" Catmom
"Don't take the PI_S"...............
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kewlone4u
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I'm still here, but can't help being nervous, I can't wait to get through work tomm and have 12 days off to get it together.
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NJ_Hoss
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Whatever you do, I advise you DON'T order any Valium or Xanax from an IOP to help you calm down. 
Good luck!
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kewlone4u
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LOL! I'm fine getting those from a US OP. I just couldn't find a Suboxone doc that has room for any more outpatients in my whole State, and half way into NC. They need to go ahead and quit restricting this medicine that so many people need. They could make a killing, and help alot of good people trying to help themselves, Thanks for making me smile!!
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kewlone4u
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Still here! No problems,WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!
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plotinus
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>> They already have what they need to secure a conviction and that's what they use to get the indictment.
Dasani - I think you're vastly overstating what a prosecutor has/needs to get an indictment. An indictment from a Grand Jury requires far less evidence than is required to convict. Defense attornies are generally not even allowed in a Grand Jury proceeding. The GJ hears only what the prosecutor wants them to hear.
IMO -KO is in the clear now.
BTW - Wiping (e.g. with Norton Utility) a hard drive is an excellent idea, if you think a search warrant is about to be executed on you. Such wipes will usually prevent resurrection of any data by any but the most sophisticated LEO's. Yes, the NSA might be able to pull the data out of the noise with one of their 'sea of FPGA' devices, but how often do you think the NSA gets involved in drug case? I'd guess never.
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plotinus
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What do you mean "don't take the pxxs.?" Catmom
"Don't take the PI_S"...............
M.
You're not coming through loud and clear here AvpdMatt - is the 'pd' in your name supposed to imply police department, Matt?
RE: wiping HDD's - here is quote from Norton Wipe Info documentation:
"Wipe Info offers the ability to remove all traces of selected files or folders from your hard drive. It has the ability to perform a Department of Defense compliant wipe of file data.
"© 1994-2001 Symantec Corporation. All rights reserved."
I think DoD compliant says it all! There are other similar utilities from other vendors.
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Dasani
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Plotinus,
I won't dispute your comment at all and I greatly value your opinion, but like I always say: Everything arrestable is not necessarily convictable. My only point was that the prosecutor "usually" has what he needs to get the "indictment" handed down(not convict someone) when he submits his evidence to the Grand Jury. That's why 85 percent of G-J Indictments return a true verdict, meaning there is enough evidence to indict. Whereas only 15 percent of G-J Investigations result in a not true bill. I said earlier, if they wanted him (kewlone4u), they would have already snatched him up long before now. Just an interesting sidenote to this: 90 percent of all cases end in a plea agreement, but of the other 10 percent of cases that go to trial, only 4 percent are convicted of the accused crime and of the 4 percent convicted, less than 2 percent do jail time (this is a national average for felonies only) So, IMO, I would take my chances at trial by jury instead of giving the state what they want in a plea deal, but everyone has their own opinion. In fact, sometimes waiving your right to a trail by jury and going with a trial by judge alone is sometimes more beneficial, depending on the crime, but my point is this: If ever you end up in trouble with the law, utilize your Miranda Rights as well as your Constitutional Rights to the fullest extent.
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plotinus
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Dasani - sorry if I came down like a ton of bricks.
Someone did a post a few days ago about grapefruit juice potentiating various meds. I was potentiating my evening med with a greyhound (GFJ & vodka) - it worked perhaps too well
Interesting statistics you cite about conviction rate at trials.
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catmom
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NJ, Thanks for the George Clooney picture. A little eye candy always brightens my day! Catmom

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Dasani
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Plotinus,
Actually you didn't come down hard and you were correct, I mispoke. The fist time I said it, it was clear, but at the end I said conviction when I meant to say indictment, so in a sense, you corrected my mistake. No problem at all. Nevertheless, your quote that follows is a classic!
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I was potentiating my evening med with a greyhound (GFJ & vodka) - it worked perhaps too well
That's one of the funnier things I've heard here on DB and I'm still rolling over it. Thanks!
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daddyj
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Well, I think you don't have much to worry about. If they were going to get you for something, they would have had LEO's hiding in the bushes who would have jumped out the second you handed the clipboard back.
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Trampy
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Plotinus,
I won't dispute your comment at all and I greatly value your opinion, but like I always say: Everything arrestable is not necessarily convictable. My only point was that the prosecutor "usually" has what he needs to get the "indictment" handed down(not convict someone) when he submits his evidence to the Grand Jury. That's why 85 percent of G-J Indictments return a true verdict, meaning there is enough evidence to indict. Whereas only 15 percent of G-J Investigations result in a not true bill. I said earlier, if they wanted him (kewlone4u), they would have already snatched him up long before now. Just an interesting sidenote to this: 90 percent of all cases end in a plea agreement, but of the other 10 percent of cases that go to trial, only 4 percent are convicted of the accused crime and of the 4 percent convicted, less than 2 percent do jail time (this is a national average for felonies only) So, IMO, I would take my chances at trial by jury instead of giving the state what they want in a plea deal, but everyone has their own opinion. In fact, sometimes waiving your right to a trail by jury and going with a trial by judge alone is sometimes more beneficial, depending on the crime, but my point is this: If ever you end up in trouble with the law, utilize your Miranda Rights as well as your Constitutional Rights to the fullest extent.
I always thought that a prosecutor could indict a ham sandwich, n'est pas?
Trampy
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tone
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julz theres nothing wrong with ordering NON controlled substances from IOPs...they have the best deals. US is way way way too expensive.
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2muchpain
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c'est pas
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Dasani
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Trampy,
parfois ils peuvent. etes vous examinant mon intelligence?
Ich spreche auch Deutsches und Schweden....
oh, y espanol por supuesto!
Never underestimate the power of Florida Public Schools. Take care.
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Caveman6666
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I always thought that a prosecutor could indict a ham sandwich, n'est pas?
Trampy
A prosecutor can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich, that is. 
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patient2all
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While we're on the subject of controlled...
Something that I've always wondered about...
Anyone know if 222's are considered a controlled substance?
Thanks
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henry1
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They contain codeine, and codeine is a narcotic, which is a controlled substance, so the answer is probably yes.
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kewlone4u
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Today I saw the Black Blazer with a T on the front tag(definitely the vehicle in question) delivering the mail on the opposite side of my apt complex, so she's a co-worker.It made me feel 100% better! I'm sure some of the mail gets mixed up cuz there's 700-800 apts in this complex,so I'm 99% sure that it had nothing to do with me,I'm so glad I saw that vehicle delivering mail today!!Take care and thanks for your input folks
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qbird
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Wow you learned all those languages in FL? I feel undereducated. I need to take some classes in Spainish since I work with a lot of non English speaking people in my line of work. I did pick up some French though as a child growing up in Louisiana. My grandma was cajun. But I don't speak it well.
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daddyj
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I always thought that a prosecutor could indict a ham sandwich, n'est pas?
Trampy
Actually, a prosecutor cannot indict anybody. A District Attorney is charged with the job of collecting evidence and prosecuting crimes, i.e. arguing the case in court.
However, a Grand Jury can indict anyone including: The Presiding Judge, The Prosecting Attorney or the aforementioned ham sandwich.
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twinsane1051
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Good Lord!!
Ok if I wasn't paranoid before, I think I am now!
What am I missing here guys?? I have had one consult/script through NWW (Norco 10/325)and now I'm a little concerned. Is this not legal? I thought this was all above board.
When I found this forum and the option of an OP, I thought great! I don't have to tote the twins to any more doctor appointments. This is a great alternative to having to try to make all of the appointments, but if I have to be concerned with MIB then I'm not so sure this is the option for me.
Can someone please elaborate????
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Dasani
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When we referred to Prosecutor, naturally we were referring to either a District Attorney, State Attorney or an Assistant State Attorney working under the direction of the SA. So in a sense, everyone is correct and we are all on the same page.
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lovely11
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Good Lord!!
Ok if I wasn't paranoid before, I think I am now!
What am I missing here guys?? I have had one consult/script through NWW (Norco 10/325)and now I'm a little concerned. Is this not legal? I thought this was all above board.
When I found this forum and the option of an OP, I thought great! I don't have to tote the twins to any more doctor appointments. This is a great alternative to having to try to make all of the appointments, but if I have to be concerned with MIB then I'm not so sure this is the option for me.
Can someone please elaborate????
I'm with you on this and still waiting on someone to chime in on this post.
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I wish I were half as good as my dog thinks I am.
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Dasani
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Lovely,
What exactly are you waiting for someone to chime in about? The legalities of using domesting OP's? If that's the case, it is legal to use a domestic OP for Schedule 3, 4, or higher drugs. You break the law when you begin to obtain the same scheduled med from different sources at the same time. This is what's referred to as Doctor Shopping or double dipping. The legal term for it is Fraudulently obtaining a prescription or attempting to do so. Whether you actually get the meds from a second source or not, the attempt is also covered under a similar law, as are the conspiracy issues that go along with it. I hope this helps, but if not, just ask away. There is no need to worry if your clean.
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AvpdMatt
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Hi,
Does the PD in my name imply police department......
You could'nt be further from the truth,
I'm the last person on earth who would want to arrest or hassle anyone, not that I've anything against the old bill, well only the 'traffic department' . If they spent more time investigating burgerlery/ rapists/ignorant thugs/murderers/illegall dealers and then giving them savage sentences, instead of a slap on the wrist, and stop wasting tax payers money on trying to stop/ close down online pharmacys , that can help people who need valuable meds when most, not all, stupid arrogant doctors who think that they know best don't prescribe or diagnose the wrong problems anyway through fear of addiction. Cheerful little soul are'nt I!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, I shall now get off my soap box!
Matty.
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candice
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As far as the clip board, bad news, they could have wiped it clean first or taken the other prints off( for elimination purposes) and then had your prints lifted.
Exactly! Superimposed fingerprints are very difficult to separate and can become very confusing to a forensic scientist trying to follow the friction-ridge lines. By using graphic imaging computer programs, it may be possible to drop out one fingerprint and bring the other to the forefront to make it more visible.
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There's a new item on the market. They've mixed LSD and the birth control pill, so you can take a trip without the kids.
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