DrugBuyers
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Online RX
What you need to know about this dangerous, unregulated market that could kill you or your children
Who is to blame? The OP's or the parents that allow this to happen?
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alphaman
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This just makes me wonder how these kids even care to try these drugs?? At 13 years old i wasnt even thinking about pills. Maybe the parents are to blame, cause i dont see this as a 13 0r 9 year old kids topic at school. Owell JMO.....heath
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lovepink
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The father put them up to it as part of an investigation/sting he was running, the way I understood it.
In general I believe the fault lies with both the parents & the OPs. For the parents, its not a wise idea to let Junior spend hours in a closed bedroom on the PC with no idea what he's doing or who he's talking to.
As for the OPs that approved these (& many others I'm sure) children's requests, its quite obvious that the only things read on the questionnaire are the CC info & the type of drug requested.
JMHO
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chevygal
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The OP's or the parents that allow this to happen?
Who's fault is it??? Where the hell is mom and dad??? I have three teen age kids, although one is in the military now. Ya know I want to say the fault lies with the parents for being so terribly detached from their kids that have no idea what they are doing, or even who they are sometimes. But then ya say that and it is an easy out for the kid. If indeed kids have donw this The parents need to have their heads knocked together, and the kid needs his whipped. I suppose some fault would have to lie with the op also, but that is the way it is when you but anything online, things can be forged, faked or whatever. Take the working parents, they have a long day at the job, come home and they have to fix dinner, do bills, fix a little something, ect. How nice it is that Johnny is being so good, he is not out running the streets or causeing trouble, he is in his room on his computer, where he has been for the last 5 hours . As long as the kid ain't bothering mom and dad, everything is fine. Yeah right?? IF he is not ordering medication he is looking up how to make a bomb!!! If the kid is under 18 then mom and dad are responsible.
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prettyday
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You go, girl!!!   
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plotinus
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Please give up your guilt and neuroses -- few understand the changes the net is causing -- the net will save too much money and make business too much easier for too many companies to abandon it. However, it is a technology with very low barriers to entry. If there is a demand, it will be satisfied on the internet. Welcome to real reality TV -- now we have to face all of the "demons" which good middle-class people chose to pretend don't exist, except perhaps as an Ozzy Osbourne video.
Welcome to Columbine, it is everywhere and by and large they hate U.S.
Hoping I will make the lucky "choice" to split into one of the "happier" parallel universes on my next quantum decision -- the old curmdgeon.
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zorg
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I dunno man, hard to call a lot of it hate when so many were singing the praises of the U.S. on all dimensions just two short years ago. There are many that react emotionally to US government policy, but there is far too much fluctuation in opinion to qualify as true hate. If anything, the large group of people that US-bash and use the term "sheep"........ are the sheep.
I think what will happen is that all of the smart and reasonable people will work together closer than ever. As far as those that use terms in political debate such as "al gore invented the internet", and "george bush is a stupid chimp", and " oil oil tailpipe halliburton smokestack", they will remain as ineffectual as ever. No quantity of shallow thought can override the true innovators of the world.
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saraba
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Sure, kids can buy drugs online. And the news report can talk all the smack they want about how the internet pharmacies are making it so easy. But don't the kids use the parents credit cards? Don't you think the parents might notice the $200 charge? And don't you think the parents of the 9 year old might wonder why their kid is getting a package from Pakistan or whatever? If you don't want your kids buying stuff online, don't shut down the websites- teach them not to steal your credit card...
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ItsOnlyMe
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Hey, what a Novell idea!
Maybe I don't like Bill Gates, and my kids and I can start a crusade against Microsoft! First, I'll get my 7 year old to order Frontpage with the ol' Mastercard.......the only difference is Microsoft and Bill Gates don't elicit the same responce as "online pharmacy" and "drugs/death" do. What chaps my A$$ is that this kind of show/story is meant to bring ratings, and nothing more. I really do think that the different authorities that would be involved here have bigger fish to fry, and the news channels are grasping at straws. Who knows, the jerk with the kids ordering online might have been one of us at one time, and the little woman caught him at it....."uhhhh, yeah......honey, I'm doing this study of online pharmacies....yeah, that's it, and it involves kids, and credit cards, and....that empty bottle of Lortab?? Nah, I didn't take any of those. They were sent to a lab for testing. Yeah, that's it, all 90...er, 180...I mean....." Sometimes being absurd is the best way to demonstrate absurdity
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Greycie
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Highly unlikely that children are going to steal their parents credit cards and charge something of that amount on it- more unlikely a parent isn't going to notice. *IF* both were to happen, I blame the parents for being so out of touch that they don't care what their kids are doing to their credit cards and not following up- I also would place blame on the parents for allowing their child enough time to research and order this shoight offline! My 10 y/o isn't allowed on the internet without me there. Period. Why? Because of all the weirdo's out there and sites she could accidentally stumble upon. But then, I see that as my responsibility- my child.
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alphaman
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Well said Greycie, i think that anyone over 20 years old here knows that from 1900 all the way up to the late 80's we would have gotten our BUTTS BEAT for something like this.
But now of course kids can get away with so much more because of all these laws about how you can or can't discipline your kids.
I remember watching springer or some show like that where 7-18 year old kids where just uncontrollable some even beat up there own parents. Some parents afraid to hit the kid back in fear that the CYS would come and take them away for good. But getting back on the subject i think the parents are defiantly to blame!!! Cause think about this even if this was just a test by the father. Now that father has put everyone else's children in danger, o im sure he explained not to tell there friends at school and im sure a 13 or 9 year old kid wont tell any of there friends either. yeah right get real, that guy must be an idiot! All the parents that live around him should keep in mind who spreaded this word to children for when something bad happens! Owell thats all.........heath
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potatoboy99
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One of the biggest problems with news stories like this one, is that it's letting THOUSANDS of kids know that ordering narcotic analgesics online is possible. Probably every kid has snickered at Viagra and Penis Enlargement spams, without imagining that they are only the most visible face of the OP industry.
But all those kids who didn't know that you could also get vicodin and other pain meds online sure do now, thanks to Fox News, The New York Post, Jane Magazine and Self magazine, to name only a few of the most recent "exposes".
Great Job, American "Journalism", keeping the youth of America informed on where to get Vicodin.
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Folksong
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Precisely, Potatoboy.
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Greycie
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Oh yeah- I'm also a big fan of 20/20 or dateline type shows where the delve into the life of a heroin addict and TEACH your children in a step-by-step process how one would go about shooting up! I mean, if they didn't give our kids the tools, most of them would be clueless! Let's face it, they've gotta learn some how! It's gross!! But, I find that thing runs hand in hand with this sort of thing
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novashok88
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Never underestimate the ingenuity of a kid, especially a computer literate one with a curiosity to find out whether valium can be bought online "for real" or not. Any kid could easily go into any store and buy a money order for 99c (and lets face it, these days most kids could buy a mint if they pooled their personal money) and then said kid just hits a web page, does the do, and then sits back and waits. He11, just about every 9 year old kid I know, and as an old fart I have plenty of friends with kids, the majority of these sleuths-in-training have a cellphone, a computer, and probably a "VISA' debit card to their savings account that grandma and grandpa tend to keep stuffed. Not to mention, they're more tech-savvy than we ever dreamed of. In the 70s and 80s we were smart enough to get around society's vaguely stringent hurdles to get whatever illicit items we wanted, whether it be cigarettes, a playboy, a bottle of beer, or whatever else our bored & twistd minds were focusing on at that moment. Imagine your kid self now, at this time in history, with all the knowledge you know you'd have to decide whether to use for good or evil. We were devious back then, what would we stumble into now? I don't have any answers -- I don't know if there ARE answers to this one, but it's certainly meal for grinder.....
Heh, sorry for the full-on ramble, the morning coffee is just kicking in and the migraine med ain't in full control yet. But seriously, If they they think that they're going to stop anyone in this age where anything can be had with the right e-mail addy and a little cutter to gamble. And lets not forget the good job that officer DARE performs in schools across the nation, teaching kids exactly what the different substances and pills look like and how they make you feel. I know it sure piqued my curiosity back in the pre-dare days when my hippy teachers "educated" us about the different drugs and their dangers. I can only imagine and fear what's being put into their ADD-diagnosed minds these days... as someone famous said, "In my day we didn't have Ritalin, we had paddlin!" That doesn't apply to everyone by any means, but I don't recall problems of this maginitude in 1952...
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howie
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Is this still on the page? If someone has a link, i would like to see this.
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catmom
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God---I loved that rant Novashok! Needless to say, when I was growing up in the '60's & '70's, sneaking a cigarette was about as "deliquent" as I got. (Thank God-I never really took up smoking-a legal addiction that belongs on another thread) I gotta remember that ritalin-paddlin' quote. It's great!
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kittykatbone
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i can't seem to pull up this video either. i even tried a search on their site typing in "online rx"... could it have expired?
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DrugBuyers
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In this case it looks like the kids were being coached, helped, and offered the tools they needed to fool even the most careful OP's
And I do not think the part about the kids mentioning their age is true.
Reporters and investigators are not "always" honest and may invent a few things if it helps them :-)
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The father put them up to it as part of an investigation/sting he was running, the way I understood it.
In general I believe the fault lies with both the parents & the OPs. For the parents, its not a wise idea to let Junior spend hours in a closed bedroom on the PC with no idea what he's doing or who he's talking to.
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qbird
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Whos to blame? That is a good question. You would be surprised how much stuff kids pick up in school. Then when they go to other people's houses, you don't know if they monitor their children's computer usage like say I do. Negligent parents are partially to blame, but not the only ones to blame. Kids pick up ideas about illegal drug use including pills from their peers as well as how to obtain them. I also agree that the media shows way too much. It seems like nothing is sacred anymore. Everything you ever wanted to see or not to see is on TV. I am surprised about how much my kids even pick up on stuff from the discovery channel which is suppose to be safe?
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