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MTKSS5
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If the police have already been to this poor guys house they will get him the minute he steps outside or while driving down the road, I hate to say this but he hasn't posted anything since I believe he is already gone....I feel sorry for his kids he will probebly sit in the county jail for a few days (unless he has an attorney) but they wont do anything on the weekend the courts that is he will sit there atleast till Monday........M
Edited by MTKSS5 (03/12/05 06:21 PM)
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fuzzywuz
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Have You EVER heard the word..."KARMA"???? What goes around, comes around.....I really feel sorry for you, Man, but, No one twisted Your arm to do that. Just remember this as a damm good lesson learned! 
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Edited by fuzzywuz (03/12/05 06:55 PM)
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Benton
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Taking the ones left in your home is one thing, but filling TWO refills is stupid, for lack of a better word. What in the world were you thinking?
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ML63
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I found an old undated prescription for hydro with 1 refill.
My pharmacy will see that I had a script for the same med from the same doc about 2 years ago. If the pharmacy calls to verify the script, the doc will say that I haven't seen him in awhile.
Any comments, suggestions, or otherwise are appreciated. THANKS
Don't do it!!! There's a very good chance you'll get caught. Pharmacies are more on top of stuff these days than you think. I know of a gal I worked with who thought she was being clever by making a copy of a script and then sending the copy through the wash. She then took the "laundered" script back to the doctor to prove that the original had been basically destroyed and got a replacement. Now posessing two valid scripts, she proceded to have both filled on the same day at two different pharmacies. The thing is that she was on record as using a particular pharmacy. As it turned out, the second pharm called her docs office for some reason or other and that raised a red flag. Remembering the replacement script thing, her doctor's meds nurse became a little suspicious and phoned the regular pharmacy just to check up and busted her! Yeah, some "clever" idea alright. She was a legit hydro user who's now been tagged as a drug seeker and can't get a script. She want from #150 a month to zero and is now shelling out to an OP like the rest of us. I know it's tempting, but you're better off torching the thing right away!
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zolstone64
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Thank You for all of your help, I just got back to the board,
The ploice were over tonight at 6:00, my kids weer doing homework and I could not bring myself to answer the door. Not because I am terrified, but because I am terriefieed of having the arrest happen in fromt of them. Don't they have anything better to do on a Sunday night? I know what I did was wrong, but I am not a murderer! I was at home tonight, helping them with home wrok, and doing laundry. What a way to upset me and my kids...the only good out of it was that me and my boyz talked about the whole thing. I told them that I had a problem, sickness, and the police wanted me because they don't understandthat I need to see a Dr instead of going to jail. I should of went or figured out what I was going to do this week, but just dodging the polce, and trying to be a father with my sons, like picking up from school, is a terrible experience...I am not sure if I will beable to take them to school tommorow because they will see me and stop the car, cuff me and then what.
What ticks me off is that this "girl" with the Darv;s had given my friend (co-owner) of our business , Darvs all the time. When I seen them on the desk that day, I really assumed they were for her, Sue told me she was going to try to get more Darv's from Mexico, so When the first bottle went, I justified refiling it in my mind, and since the pharmacy didn't give me any hassle, I just accepted what I was doing was OK. Sue the Darv owner who is precessing charges, is pissed off at me because she thinks I went into her purse for these. I did not do that, and I am understanding she was mad at tme when she returned from her trip, because I left her a voice mail about taking her pay from the till without letting us know or be there.
Anyways,,I really am thankful for all the help and suggestions I have received. This board is great, I received more support from here than anywere, God bless you, or if you don't believe in God, May the force be with you...
Paul
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zolstone64
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I just read all of the responses I received and wanted to touch base on a few of them.
First , I admitted publically that what I did was stupid, I din't need to hear that again, I was poating my experience
A. Because I was hoping for some suggestions about treatmnent etc...because I Must have a problem, but I wouldn't have one if it weren't for her. She left the Darvs behind, and she has given them to my girlfreind in the past, so I figured they were for the taking. I was not going to take all of them but, as I stated, my sons been really sick, I lost my job of 18 yrss last year and my business is not doing well at all. It was a short escape for me, and at the time it felt good to feel the warm opiates calm me down and feel human again.
B. I posted also to relay my experience to others, so they may not fall victim for the same scemnario. I expresssed this in my first message and was explaining that I was concerned about my kids and what options I had. This is what a message board is for , isn't it? I am ashamed for what I have done, but believe me I would nnot admit to this unless I know I am in need of help. This is the worst I have been off in my life so far, and I just fear for my kids and being able to take care of them, I should of thought of that before I refilled the meds, but I guess if the refill was illegal why didn't the pharmacy ask for an ID? I even messed up the second time and gave the wrong last name and came back and corrected myself. I am male and the patient is female, so if there was any question if I was her, than this is an issue with glasses for the pharmacist.
Presently I am waiting for my lawyer to call me back Monday. I also want to make sure I get to my sons parent teacher conference on Tues moring before I obtained. I cannot leave to go get milk etc, for fear of them stopping me, and I have been bold to go get Logan medicine for his illness.
I seen on CNN tonight how the individual shot 4 court personnel and feld, then I was ananlyzing my misfortune. I do feel bad about aht I did, but I do not understand why I am such a priority? There are enough violent crimes in the area, I did not hurt anyone, and I never will, I just want to beable to take care of my kids, and not go to jail, and live life pain free, so I can physically enjoy life with my sons. I would of paid this lady back but never got the chance.
Again Thanks everyone for the support, I am very lucky to have found such a "cool" site, I appreciate all of the positive suggestions and help, keep them coming please. I don't think I can last out the week, but at least I know I have freinds out there who really care and offer support.
Live for today, tommorow never comes...
This is true for me and me and boyz are trying to have a blast amongst the dodging of authorities...
Paul
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Murple
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First , I admitted publically that what I did was stupid, I din't need to hear that again, I was poating my experience
All I've seen you admit to or regret at all was doing something that got you caught. You seem to be totally blind to the things that you actually did wrong... the next quote here is a great example.
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I Must have a problem, but I wouldn't have one if it weren't for her.
You are trying to blame her. Thats sooooo messed up. YOU took the drugs. YOU got refills. She wasnt strapping you to a chair and force feeding you narcotics for weeks until you became a depraved addict... you got there all on your own. You cant blame the pharmacy either for not asking for ID. You seem determined to paint yourself as the victim here... "ooooh my life is hard, and then this evil girl left her magic pills that forced me to go break a law on camera." Whatever! You stole drugs, went junkie, and did something really stupid. You arent the first person in the world who's done that (hence the fact that there were cameras there in the first place). Until you're willing to accept ALL the blame for what happened and not try to put ANY of it on her, you're really not going to get any better. You'll just become a bitter junkie with a prison record. Accept the blame, accept that you will get in trouble (once drug violations are charged against someone by the police, the person who originally asked for charges has no more say in it, she couldn't get the charges dropped if she wanted to) and take this new sense of self responsibility and do something good with it - get yourself into some rehab and counselling!!!
I hope things work out for you, but... you really need to make that happen, it won't just go by magic. Stop blaming anyone or anything else for your problems and get some help.
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scarrlett
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Zolstone64, I haddn't read your last post completely but you totally had my sympathy until I scrolled down to the post from Murple & saw what he had quoted in your post. Murple is ABSOLUTELY correct! Take responsibility for your OWN actions. I really can't believe that you are going to LITERALLY blame the victim! Because whether you choose to see it or not, that is exactlty what she is! You stole her personal property!
You then go on to place blame on the pharmacy for not checking your I.D. and even make a comment that this is the phamacist's fault because he must need glasses! Well, it's not his fault either. People have prescriptions filled & picked up everyday for mothers, fathers, spouses, girlfriends, boyfriends, etc. Even if he had checked your I.D., it would have been only to make a note of who picked it up. Go ahead & blame the lawmakers next for making it possible for people to pick up prescriptions for those other than themselves.
You know, when I first read what you had done, I was immediately taken with your honesty and I thought it would be a great way for others to see what could happen by making a very poor decision and you could find some support for the situation YOU have put YOURSELF in.
I agree with what others have said, you need rehab & counseling...but for more reasons than just the issue of the pills.
I sincerely wish you all the best. I hope things work in a very positive way for you & your children, but please, face ALL aspects of what you have done. I can almost guarantee, no one, especially not a judge, is going to have any pity on you and see you as some sort of a victim.
I do hope you understand where I (and others) are coming from. I also hope that you do keep us posted on what happens with all of this. Again, I truly do wish you the best.
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Murple
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I agree with what others have said, you need rehab & counseling...but for more reasons than just the issue of the pills
Agreed... unless he's been using way more drugs than he's saying here, there's obviously a whole lot of psychological issues going on besides a Darvocet habit.
Get help. You have kids. Think about it.
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AngelWolf13
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i really hate to say this, but it is people who do not take responsibility for their own actions that make life particularly miserable for me.
just look at the headlines! people get caught (or worse!) abusing drugs, then they go on to blame the doctor, the pharmacy, EVERYONE, even the drug itself. then the media picks it up, the government cracks down, innocent people get in trouble, doctors get wary of prescribing anything for fear of getting "blamed" for anything and losing their license, and legitimate pain (anxiety, or etc.) sufferers find it increasingly difficult to get any kind of effective help for debilitating conditions. "oxycontin" is a very good example but the "fear of reprisal" knows no bounds.
the very first thing i suggest you do is admit that YOU, yourself, have a problem and then take responsibility for your own actions. then, and only then, will you be able to take the first steps on your road to recovery. i sincerely hope that your journey will be a smooth one.
listen to these fine members. they offer some very shrewd advice. good luck to you.
angel
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alphie
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Couldn't agree with you more, Angel. We're cut from the same cloth...
Zolstone, the best way to rectify the situation, your conscience, your future, and the future of your peers with legitimate pain needs is to admit to yourself that your actions led to your own undoing (I hate cliches, but they are necessary here). I will keep you in my thoughts and I wish you and your family the best.
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ikestormu11
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Unfortunately I have someone I care a great deal about that is an addict. The main problem was that he was the only one that couldn't see it. He used to sound just like you.(Not Angel but the original poster) At first he wouldn't admit there was a problem, then it was everyone else's fault. What your doing isn't uncommmon and it isn't your fault. Don't get me wrong I don't believe you should get a pass on this mess but addicts, such as yourself, that haven't received proper treatment are sick. Now that you've been told your an addict you need to admit to yourself that you are one, and no one else is to blame for this but you. What you did you did on your own. Its not uncommon for you (addicts in general) to look for others to blame. We've all heard that admiting there is a problem is the hardest step. Your being told your an addict, now admit it to yourself and seek out proper treatment. Your latest post doesn't upset me because I know its typical for a sick person to place blame where it doesn't belong. From now on just don't post about how this is the pharmacists or anyone elses fault. You will lose what you came here for which is support. Hang in there. Good luck.
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Edited by ikestormu11 (03/14/05 04:34 PM)
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AngelWolf13
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... What your doing isn't uncommmon and it isn't your fault... Its not uncommon for... (addicts in general) to look for others to blame. We've all heard that admiting there is a problem is the hardest step...I know its typical for a sick person to place blame where it doesn't belong....
wow, really? i didn't know that. thank you for enlightening me. i am thoroughly unfamiliar with the psychological aspects of addiction. i had no idea. i have much to learn. i learn a lot from this board.
to zolstone64, i'm sorry if it sounded like i was being too harsh on you. there are some things that i honestly don't understand. but, like ikestormu11 said, it is not a free pass and i stand by my last post. you have to tackle your problems face-on. not just for the world, but for yourself and your family. hang in there and everything will turn out fine, it really will!
sincerely, angel
p.s. afphie, i have come to the realization that we do think alike. hmm. scary! (lol, j/k!  )
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alphie
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Its not uncommon for you (addicts in general) to look for others to blame. We've all heard that admiting there is a problem is the hardest step.
Right on. Yes, we can all sit in the comfort of our own worlds and talk about how important it is to admit one has a problem and is responsible for the outcome of those problems. I am actually a psychologist, and I know that sometimes you can't get to the point of admitting your responsibilty ALONE. The best way, in additon to listening to the many people on this board who are supporting you right now (yes, being a bit hard on you IS suppporting you) is to go to a PROFESSIONAL and talk about your situation. They can help you to better understand the reality of your situation and get you on your way to recovery. It is hard...really hard. I think you would agree, though, that your family is worth the work!
Feel free to PM me at any time and I'll try to help!
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infliksta
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my advise is get all other meds and anything else out of the house asap or you will never see your kids again.
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scarrlett
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AngelWolf13
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even the drug itself.
Angel, that statement alone says alot. Even the lawmakers are wanting to blame the medication itself rather than the people who actually abuse the drugs.
I don't think you need to apologize for anything in your first post. It IS people like that making it harder for someone like you.
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What your doing isn't uncommmon and it isn't your fault. Don't get me wrong I don't believe you should get a pass on this mess but addicts, such as yourself, that haven't received proper treatment are sick.
Ike, I couldn't disagree with you more...It is all his fault. There is a wave going around where people who abuse drugs & alcohol aren't given the "it's a disease" card anymore, & I'm inclined to agree. I would prefer that the disease that took my beloved grandmother, aunt & close friend from me, not be placed in the same category as alcoholism & drug abuse. After all, people have that choice to take those pills or that drink, but my loved ones had no say at all whether or not to let cancer eat them alive.
And before anyone gets upset with me, notice I said I disagree with Ike...I didn't say he was wrong. This is just my opinion.
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AngelWolf13
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hi scarlett,
a wise man once said, "never be so open-minded that your brain falls out of your head." or maybe a wiseguy said it....
in either case, upon further circumspection, ikestormu11, i feel i have to agree with scarlett to disagree with you. i always like to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, but in this world we have become a generation of "victims". even murderers get away with killing because they were "victims of their society" like somehow "society" made them that way. i have lived through some horrible abuse in my lifetime, but does that give me the right to hurt others? the way the courts are, i KNOW i could get away with it, all they have to do is look at my records. because of my ptsd, do i have the right to steal someone elses rx because the drugs made me feel better? am i entitled to them because i think i need them more than the person to whom the drugs were rx-ed to? should everything and everyone else be guilty by proxy because my psychological problems, real or imagined, cause me to act against my own will? devil made me do it? not in my opinion. we should all be old enough by now to know the difference between right and wrong.
like scarlett said, ike, i am not saying that you're wrong either. to your credit, you did bring up some valid points. as a sufferer of debilitating adhd, i can understand how a psychological disorder can can affect someones emotions and actions. when i am off my dexedrine i can literally throw a temper tantrum for no good reason. can i help it? perhaps not.... not without my medication anyway. if i'm off my dexedrine can i go into a violent rampage and beat someone up with a baseball bat? well, yes, i suppose i could.... and YES, believe it or not, i have entertained that thought before! after all, i do have some pretty serious adhd. if i did beat somebody up, could i blame it all on my adhd? hmmmm, yes, i guess i could do that too (doesn't mean i'd be correct).... does that mean that if i did beat someone up, that it's not my fault? WRONG!!!!
psychological disorders can and do mess people up emotionally, but it takes real cognitive thought to pick up that baseball bat or to walk to the pharmacy and steal someone else's refills. exception to the rule---of course, there are many cases where people have such a severe physological psychosis as schizophrenia that they actually DO things against their own will. usually these poor souls have to be institutionalized or otherwise taken care of. but i don't think that zolstone64 fits in this category.
again, ike, i'm not saying you're wrong. there are always two sides (at least!) to every issue and it is good to examine them all. the only way to gain a fuller understanding of any situation is to take all reasonable points and opinions into consideration.
thank you ikestormu11 and scarlett for your thoughtful introspection and civility making this a very mature and interesting discussion, for me anyway.
cheers all, angel
EDIT!~~~~~~> to zolstone64, don't take this the wrong way... i'm still pulling for you, man! please get help and get this taken care of asap. i'm behind you all the way!
EDIT #2~~~~~~> scarlett, please accept my condolences for the sad and tragic losses of your loved ones. i pray you do not have to endure any more terrible bereavement like this in your life.
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Edited by AngelWolf13 (03/15/05 04:11 PM)
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