cascadia
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NO! I don't know of this hapening. I apologize if this is/has been discussed on another thread, so please delete if it's not appropriate. I'm not trolling or trying to make people parinoid.
BUT..I was wondering if anyone has even ordered/sent in a MO from records/no-records op/IOP wondering how easy it would be to set up one of these websites, offer low prices, and harvest a bunch of personal info on people.
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lincoona
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Sounds like a lot of work for little benefit. If DEA wanted to "sting" they'd sting existing sites, they're usually after the dealers, not the users.
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kandi
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NO! I don't know of this hapening. I apologize if this is/has been discussed on another thread, so please delete if it's not appropriate. I'm not trolling or trying to make people parinoid.
BUT..I was wondering if anyone has even ordered/sent in a MO from records/no-records op/IOP wondering how easy it would be to set up one of these websites, offer low prices, and harvest a bunch of personal info on people.
I saw an interview with Bo Dietl (sp?) several months ago on a news show where he said that he had set up a bogus site, but I have never heard of anybody ordering from this site, let alone anything happening to them. Does anybody on here remember seeing this, and know of any info regarding it?
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tesla
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Bo D. told Imus he had setup a bogus site. This was a month or so after he had his 14 year old son order controlled substances from an OP.
What I don't understand is how a private citizen can violate the law, brag about doing so on national tv and never be charged with a crime.
What would happen if I prepared an illegal substance using a recipe I found on the internet? I broke the law, therefore why aren't all these reporters and the BoMan charged with falsifying records, obtaining a prescription under fraudulent circumstances, etc.?
Enough for my soapbox.
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xanadutn
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paranoid
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TTFREE
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yea paranoid hehe funny!
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mph47
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Sounds like a lot of work for little benefit. If DEA wanted to "sting" they'd sting existing sites, they're usually after the dealers, not the users.
I think its a bunch of BS also.
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t_oshan2003
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bunch of BS. Dea are to stupid to even know who to call to setup a website.
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therhino
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bunch of BS. Dea are to stupid to even know who to call to setup a website.
stupid, that's 7 years bad luck.
I think a little fear is healthy. Keeps you on your toes....
just my 2c
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drrondm
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The DEA has enough agents to simply order themselves,go before any Federal Judge,and have warrrant in hand without risking a consumer's life.They are far from "stupid",as you only see the agents sent to do their "Grunt" work.They hire thousands of licensed attorneys to develop the intelligence prior to the Grunt squad's arrival.They are much sharper at top levels than most agencies,IMO,except the FBI and IRS.They just don't need our help-they have enough of their own.Too,nowadays,its almost always possible to admit you are drug-dependent,and at worst draw probation and agree to treatment once or twice.DEA is much too sharp to tinkle away their budget on small fry with no assets to seize.A local cop might think it worthwhile,but not DEA.Neither does the U.S. Attorney's office wish to prosecute a plain user-it will not advance their career like cracking a major smuggling ring's top coke or heroin importer.Just IMO.
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DigitFreedom
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The DEA has enough agents to simply order themselves,go before any Federal Judge,and have warrrant in hand without risking a consumer's life.They are far from "stupid",as you only see the agents sent to do their "Grunt" work.They hire thousands of licensed attorneys to develop the intelligence prior to the Grunt squad's arrival.They are much sharper at top levels than most agencies,IMO,except the FBI and IRS.They just don't need our help-they have enough of their own.Too,nowadays,its almost always possible to admit you are drug-dependent,and at worst draw probation and agree to treatment once or twice.DEA is much too sharp to tinkle away their budget on small fry with no assets to seize.A local cop might think it worthwhile,but not DEA.Neither does the U.S. Attorney's office wish to prosecute a plain user-it will not advance their career like cracking a major smuggling ring's top coke or heroin importer.Just IMO.
I have to agree with you here. I really think you called this one. There isnt anything for the DEA to seize with users, and like you said... many users are facing probation if they agree to treatment. All in all, it just makes no sence for them to waste their resources on individual user busts.
However a DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN (hint) to discourage use would make perfect sence, no?
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cascadia
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Again...wasn't trying to stir things up, but just wanted to compare notes.
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t_oshan2003
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not trying to flame or anything but I would classify them as "sharper" than a dull knife!
Sure, big coc and meth busts, big drug operations sometime but they miss everything and are crooked as heck, they do it and are funded well so to screw up shows a lot. Its not a tough job, I think most of us could do it easily and better! The attorneys know they are idiots, the taxpayers do and the U.S attorneys office would just like better stats, currently not what they are getting.
But going afer a user is so funny, when the dea agents are up against attorneys, most of the time they need diapers! They have no clue about reality, just a tough soldier image, whata joke. Just get a decent lawyer and you can shoe them away like flies!
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TIGGIE
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No, but I really believe that the DEA does look at these boards, because one member, went to see who is online, and saw that a lot of anomnous - ( sorry I spelled wrong) They may see us members posting about NROP'S, or other stuff. I just really think we have to be careful what we post., do more PM'S.
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bigceaser
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Take it easy on the painkillers, they will make you overly paranoid.
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DigitFreedom
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No, but I really believe that the DEA does look at these boards, because one member, went to see who is online, and saw that a lot of anomnous - ( sorry I spelled wrong) They may see us members posting about NROP'S, or other stuff. I just really think we have to be careful what we post., do more PM'S.
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this too shall pass, with a little help! ( stay painfree)
This is ever so very true these days. I have noticed some stange questions poping up from newbies (hehe) on varios OP forums. Most recently I seen where a newbie's very first post questioned where a NR site was shiping from. They actually asked about what state an order was being shiped from in their very first post... Now, I realize that sometimes people have legit reasons to ask such a question, but I honestly feel the more folks advertise this kind of stuff the faster the NR sites get into trouble. We dont need to post itemized detailed trasactions upon every post.
Just a heads-up and my 2-cents. 
Peace.
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summit
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There is absolutely no Federal Statute on the books that prohibit a US citizen from purchasing FDA regulated medications off the internet, unless you are representing yourself a s a wholesaler and ordering large quantities from International sites.
ALL OP's represent that their services include a Physicians consult, whether it occurs or not.
A casual consumer is breaking no law, and open discussion of site availability is perfectly acceptable. Congress is focusing on Drug Imports, particularly from Canada and is years away from regulating the worldwideweb.
relax
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DigitFreedom
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There is absolutely no Federal Statute on the books that prohibit a US citizen from purchasing FDA regulated medications off the internet, unless you are representing yourself a s a wholesaler and ordering large quantities from International sites.
ALL OP's represent that their services include a Physicians consult, whether it occurs or not.
A casual consumer is breaking no law, and open discussion of site availability is perfectly acceptable. Congress is focusing on Drug Imports, particularly from Canada and is years away from regulating the worldwideweb.
relax
This is true.
However there are STATE laws.. and thats the issue of concern for many.
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sirce000
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what is up with bluesky now ? are they gone ?
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dmoe
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there is a whole thread on them, as far as the DEA watching the board you know they might be, and as far as those annonymous useer in the who's online, they are usually guests waiting for there e-mail with their user name and password, but I do notice they all seem to be looking at NROP's and stuff like like or a thread callled anyone got any hydro lately, what a name to start a thread with LOL, OK stop it I'm getting paranoid now.....LOL
Oh and sorry but yes I think they are gone with the wind
Edited by dmoe (12/10/04 02:02 PM)
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tim111
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Dear Tesla, You are exactlly right! here's this man Bo. D. giving his son A credit card to order illegal drugs, isn't this at the very least child abuse? never mind entrapment and then he admits it on TV, what happened to the drugs? why isn't some publicity hungry lawyer going after him? screwey world we live in. I bet if he gave his kid 100.00 to take to school he'd bring home alot more potent stuff than he ordered online, Tim
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hello889
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bunch of BS. Dea are to stupid to even know who to call to setup a website.
That is the most untrue thing i have ever heard... they could put your whole family in jail if they really wanted to get you. Trust me.
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t_oshan2003
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and as a newbie you're credentials are what ?? LOL
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t_oshan2003
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ah let them watch. Recod OP's and NROP's are here to stay and they are not going to enforce anything small. Even a customs love letter is nothing to think about, just rip it up and be happy it you get your money back.
Its so not worth it for them to go after people that order from NROP's. They are lucky if they can shut down the website.
Bluesky looks like its done. That sucks!
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midwestpharm
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The DEAs business is money not small time transactions
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jimmyp
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Found this from the DEA on internet sites that says "DEA has launched a toll-free international hotline to report the illegal sale and abuse of pharmaceutical drugs:"
http://www.dea.gov/pubs/pressrel/pr121504.html
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DigitFreedom
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Found this from the DEA on internet sites that says "DEA has launched a toll-free international hotline to report the illegal sale and abuse of pharmaceutical drugs:"
http://www.dea.gov/pubs/pressrel/pr121504.html
No ofense... but thats really nothing new. By the time a site gets reported they have already changed domain names.
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jimmyp
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I know that, I'm just a little worried bc now they're looking closer at these websites and their users.
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FatWang
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The DEA usually does not follow money laundering as much as soft targets. They love arresting doctors because it is safe, easy work. No one gets shot and the headlines are large. I doubt they would waste their time on snagging a few thousand for Class III drug diversion. There is nothing flashy about it.
I am happy that they will go after shady IOPs. NROPs and OPs are cool, and I am down with IOPs that deliver inexpenive meds, but some of the other guys need to rot in jail -- Such as rip-off artists and guys who ship hard drugs to anyone with the money to pay. I am not afraid of some kid getting hydrocodone if it has a label telling him to avoid booze, and the prescribing doctor's number. The idea of kids getting morphine or 80mg Oxycontin tabs in "discrete packaging" from their "friend" in Pakistan terrifies me. I would love to see the DEA lock up those criminals.
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TLM2
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bunch of BS. Dea are to stupid to even know who to call to setup a website.
That is the most untrue thing i have ever heard... they could put your whole family in jail if they really wanted to get you. Trust me.
I am not a stranger or a newbie. I have almost 200 posts on the VIP side. I agree, the DEA agency is out of control right now. They are using threats and intimidations, especially with CP doctors, and doctors working for OPs right now.
The DEA can ruin lives if they have it in for you. If they ever target you, get a GREAT lawyer.
TLM2
Check some of my posts even on the free side, and you'll see I know exactly what I'm talking about.
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