BigMatza
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What's the ruling on this?
It seems like all-in-one online rx services are depriving you of your right to get an actual script. By all-in-one, I mean doctors who consult with you for a fee, and then forward your script to their partner pharmacy who mails you the meds... which would pretty much be all of them.
If you ask the doctor for a script, rather than the meds, shouldn't he/she have to mail you one? The obvious need for this is because I have insurance and a stiff PCP. I'd much rather pay a $10 copay than $100 and another $20 for shipping.
I understand that whatever script I get filled using my insurance will be on record, and I am okay with that.
Also, what would happen if I got the original script filled via the online rx (as normally done), and then took the empty container to the local CVS for my refills? Does anyone do this? Does it matter whether or not the medication is scheduled, or if the doctor is out of state? Does this throw up all kinds of flags if CVS sees the pharmacy that filled it is online?
I apologize if this question is posted in an FAQ on DB. I looked for a good 30 minutes and didn't find it. I also noticed it's a pretty common question (IMHO) NOT addressed by any OLP FAQs I've seen.
Please advise.
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BigMatza
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Don't you always find what you're looking for after you post it? So many forums, and so few ideas of what to search by... but I found it.
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Consider this a bump for those other threads. Good info.
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Pickledoo
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Loc: New England
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I'm not sure if this is what you are talking about but there is one thing about doctors that has always drove me nuts. WE PAY DOCTORS FOR A SERVICE! Allow me to elaborate; Let's say you go to a hair dresser and request a bleach job. The stylist then looks at you and says "no, you don't need a bleach job. I'm going to make your hair red".
My point is that a lot of doctors have a God complex. They give you what they think you should have and that is not always what you need or know what works. How many times have we read on this board that someone has been told to "suck it up" or "its all in your head". Doctors provide a service that we pay for. If the service is sub-par, we have the option of firing them just like any other person who gives lousy service. We find ourselves fearing the doctor's opinion and the drug-seeker label. And rightly so!
Perhaps I am just talking out my a$$ but if you know what works and you PAY a doctor then he should provide the service that you pay for.
JMHO and 2 cents.
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Trampy
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I'm not sure if this is what you are talking about but there is one thing about doctors that has always drove me nuts. WE PAY DOCTORS FOR A SERVICE! Allow me to elaborate; Let's say you go to a hair dresser and request a bleach job. The stylist then looks at you and says "no, you don't need a bleach job. I'm going to make your hair red".
My point is that a lot of doctors have a God complex. They give you what they think you should have and that is not always what you need or know what works. How many times have we read on this board that someone has been told to "suck it up" or "its all in your head". Doctors provide a service that we pay for. If the service is sub-par, we have the option of firing them just like any other person who gives lousy service. We find ourselves fearing the doctor's opinion and the drug-seeker label. And rightly so!
Perhaps I am just talking out my a$$ but if you know what works and you PAY a doctor then he should provide the service that you pay for. JMHO and 2 cents.
If someone gave me a bad haircut, i'd never go back. Why do you go back to a bad doctor?
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InvaderCAL
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don't flame me, but doctors are alot different that hair dresses. the hole in an analogy like that is the difference between training and education. hair dressers are trained how to do something, doctors are educated. Doctors know how your body works, and more importantly why it works and why things work with it, and thats the difference, you don't pay them to do what you want...you pay them for their knowledge, because they know things that you don't. Thats why nobody w/o a phd can write scripts...they're not euducated enough to be considered knowledgeable enough, and neither are you. Thats not meant to be an offense, its just the way it is. You mechanics don't build cars, the fix them cause they know how they work. Engineers build cars cause they know why they work. Same principle.
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mackmoves
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Reged: 05/21/04
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Loc: Jacksonville
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I partly agree. But I think the original poster is asking the about getting a script from an OP then transferring it. That is asking to get black balled. These pharmacies that fill , do so taking a risk. They have a responsibility now also, and for them to say "Well, I guess Dr. X had alot of patients that needed help" after the DEA says "Dr. X phoned in 2500 Rx's for #120 Hydro to be sent to different people all over the country in 2004, with no scripts for a non narcotic? And nothing but pain medications, and you never questioned the "validity of the scripts"(I beleive a new law that holds them responsible also)?!"
The OP needs a pharmacy to fill, and the pharmacy needs to make a few mill before getting shut down. You transferring or filling the script else where makes the pharmacy no money. And if the OP allowed it I imagine the pharmacy would just tell them to fill all of their orders else where, and good luck calling Eckerds/CVS in DosieDo,Alabama for a script for 120 norcos and 90 xanax , oh and add 3refills.
Am I wrong here? Is this how the trifecta works? Consult split 50/50, takes care of two of the three. And a gaurentee to triple costs once those scripts are filled with the promise that all scripts will be honored?
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MRNUTTY
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but if you know what works and you PAY a doctor then he should provide the service that you pay for.
you pay a doctor (who has to got to medschool, and goto conferences on medinces and patient treatment, and diagnosis and so on), and for a diagnosis. if the diagnosis requires medication then you get a script and get the medicine. what's missing from this picture they you don't that your getting from your doctor.
next time you go to your doctor and he statrs talking about "your blood pressure" ask him home many conferences a year he goes to, how many doctor does he personally share information with, what periodicals does he read, how does he keep up todate. any good doctor does all of the above. when he prescibes medince: ask how long has it been on the market, what is it used for, what is he trying to treat, what are the withdrawl symptom. they're more than willing to treat you like sheep, but if you ask questions, and they don't have good answers THEN i would go somewhere else.
i advise this especially if you are being treated for mental health reason, you might be (terribly) suprised...
i can't imagine a doctor that would prescibe a medicine a patient suggests for, especially with all the drug adds.
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Sweetz
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It's not like going to Home Depot and buying lumber. You just don't walk in and say what you need. They GIVE you what they are willing to give you for your need. I believe the docs the original poster speaks of are called doctor 'feelgoods'.
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Pickledoo
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Reged: 09/20/02
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Loc: New England
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I think ya'll missed my point. I was speaking of pain issues only. I obviously know the difference between hairdressers and doctors. Perhaps that was a bad analogy. I never meant to suggest that we know more than doctors do. I simply wanted to point out that doctors provide a service and if that service is bad, then you always have the option of finding another doctor. I know that we all at one time or another have been made to feel stupid or ashamed by doctors. I wanted to get the point accross that if a doctor gives bad service, we all have the option of going elsware.
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lela
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A Doctor IS providing a service. By law you have the right not to pay if you do not receive that service.
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ISaidDuh
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Reged: 10/28/02
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I think it stinks too, BUT....from what I have seen, the doctors who will not give you the actual script do this because there are so many people who, once they get the script, alter it by bumping up the number of pills/capsules and or refills and or try making photo copies of them to give to multiple pharmacies and or IF the doctor noted on the script, will write down the DEA number and call in a fake prescription or snake blank script pads from their doctor and write their own prescriptions.
Of course, the layman would get the largest blunt of legal troubles but they would also go back to the doctor and warn them for not being security minded or were they in on this.
Sorry this is turning into a novel...outside of this, I'm not too surprised, alot of times these ops or even local doc make deals with pharmacies for kickbacks and they lose this if you take you script to unassociated pharmacy.
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