I think ya'll missed my point. I was speaking of pain issues only. I obviously know the difference between hairdressers and doctors. Perhaps that was a bad analogy. I never meant to suggest that we know more than doctors do. I simply wanted to point out that doctors provide a service and if that service is bad, then you always have the option of finding another doctor. I know that we all at one time or another have been made to feel stupid or ashamed by doctors. I wanted to get the point accross that if a doctor gives bad service, we all have the option of going elsware.