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How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid?
      #189622 - 09/30/04 02:31 AM

I am on a 3 month waiting list to see a therapist at the country mental health center near my house. Then the therapist will put me on a 2 month waiting list to see a psychiatrist.

I am on meds, but you may recall that I'm also on SSI for severe recurrent major depression. I just want to get my meds fixed.

But I'm on Medicaid.

And getting the right drugs for your head isn't like waiting to see if the donor organ will match. It takes time. I don't want to leave that long. I hate the hospital. And there drugs I WON't take. NO anti-psychotics, of any kind. If any patient has ever gained so much as 28 oz. on it, I won't take it. I'll get kicked out for that, won't i?

But I might need to go, so how the hell do I do it? Please, sombody he must know this. PM me if the info is too sensitive.
I'm still making it right now, for a couple of weeks maybe, but I don't know how long.

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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: toe]
      #189666 - 09/30/04 06:46 AM

Toe - Understand your frustration but you can't just "sign yourself in" without a need. I'm not familiar with your area but if it's similar to mine you should visit the county hospitals ER and they will make an asessment. Normally they have what's called a crisis team that will evaluate you. If your need is emergent you will be seen right away and helped. If you refuse the help offered by way of medication you may be SOL. There are only so many alternatives for drug therapy.
Being on Medicaid has nothing to do with what you need. Your county facility will take you Medicaid or not and help you but you have to be willing to participate.


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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: domain]
      #189824 - 09/30/04 02:11 PM

Quote:

Toe - Understand your frustration but you can't just "sign yourself in" without a need.



YOU UNDERSTAND Best if kept off the board
WHAT ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH MAKES YOU THINK I DONT HAVE NEED?@@[QUOTE] There are only so many alternatives for drug therapy.[/QUOTE] nO SHINOLA SHERLOCK. THAT'S WHY I'D LIKE TO CATCH IT BEFORE IT GETS TO THE POINT WHERE THEY START TALKING ABOUT ECT AGAIN.
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Being on Medicaid has nothing to do with what you need. [/QUOTE]
HELLO MACFLY!!!! I'M ON DISABILITY FOR MAJOR DEPRESSIVE DISORDER.
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Your county facility will take you Medicaid or not and help you but you have to be willing to participate.



CONGRATULATIONS. YOU'VE JUST FINISHED YOUR SUICIDE HOTLINE TRAINING COURSE/PEER COUNSELING TREINEE CERTIFICATION/PRE-NURSING SAT. YOU MAY NOW PASS GO.

Can I ask you why the f*Best if kept off the board you had to be so patronizing? You obviously don't know krap about this. TO add injury to insult, you didn't even read my post clearly. Have you ever been on a psychiatric unit or in a psychiatric hospital? What in my message implies that I think I'm "owed" that or that I "want" to go there? No, dear. I'm going to die if I don't. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow. I'll wait, because I have an eating disorder and God knows there's no sense admitting yourself when you're more than 50k. And I'll just get sicker and more spaced out and probably accidentally rear end a few more cars. . .

You little

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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: toe]
      #189853 - 09/30/04 03:15 PM

Damnit girl. What's going on? You better answer the phone when I call you tonight.

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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: toe]
      #189899 - 09/30/04 05:35 PM

Toe...Take a really deep breath and let it out slowly. Now again. I "get" you loud and clear. I have suffered a lifetime with Major Depression too. Even people w/chronic unrelenting pain will admit that nothing is worse than what you are going through. You are probably a "non-responder" to the anti-depressants, as am I. Right now you feel like driving on the sidewalk and too bad if anyone gets in your way. I know how you feel. And having to wait for decent care with a major depressive episode hanging over your head is so difficult! (I have some suggestions for you). Like you, I refused to take anti-psycotic meds b/c I'm not psycotic and if your problem is cronic major depression and they give you anti-psycotics it's not really to treat your depression, it's just to make you too "drugged" to complain. Sadly, for us many non-responders, Dr's do not treat our symptoms. We know that despite the commercials that show the Bubble dragging on the groung, crying, and very sad... and then immediately after taking prozac, zoloft,(or whatever???); The Bubble is smiling, laughing and floating along & the flowers are blooming & dancing, & the rain has stopped and the sun is shining! Even the #%* "Bluebird of Happiness" flies by singing and waving hello! Nothing upsets me as much as those commercials b/c your family, friends, employers, etc; wonder why you can't or won't respond like that! Anyway, I digress...Back to you Toe...PM me and tell me what you are taking and together we will get you through this. I don't want to be deleted b/c someone might think I'm giving you medical advice...mic

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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: michie]
      #190051 - 10/01/04 08:35 AM

From my experience, she CAN "admit" herself to the psych unit as a voluntary patient!!! The hospital HAS to see you, whether you can afford it or not, on medicare, medicaid, or whatever.

I've been hospitalized three times in my life for OD'ing, and never once did I receive anti-psychotics. I, too, have been diagnosed with major depressive disorder, and social anxiety disorder. I was so miserable in the hospital that I would have loved an anti-psychotic!!! On one occasion, I was put in the ICU for a period of days before transferred to the psych unit. I wasn't allowed to shower or even get up to s''t, and was right in front of the nurse's station so that I could be monitored. To make matters worse, I had to drink "mucomyst" every few hours, which smelled and tasted like rotten eggs, and gave me explosive diarreah. They denied me my antidepressant, effexor, even though my doctor had been tapering me off slowly, and I went through horrible withdrawal and broke out into a freezing cold sweat whenever I fell asleep. Not being able to shower made me just want to wrap the IV wires around my neck! So, Toe, save yourself even the POSSIBILITY of having to be put through something worse, and get your meds straightened out!

Toe, do what you need to do. Even if you are admitted, you'd likely be released as early as possible because of your situation. Even after OD'ing, I was once released after 3 days or so.

And if nothing else, keep this thought with you:
I know I can't speak for how you feel, but I have been through what for me has been nearly unbearable heartache and humiliation. Yet I have always found a time in my life after each recovery where I thought, "wow - I'm really glad I'm still alive to experience this." And if that doesn't work, think of the person (or animal) who cares for you most, and imagine the pain that your death would bring them. Sure, death is inevitable, but tell yourself - "not today." With hope, there will be a time in the future where you'll be glad you did. Keep me posted!

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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: astrophel2]
      #190063 - 10/01/04 09:20 AM

Toe.....Where I live, you can admit yourself, and then you are able to leave in 5 days, but if you are admitted buy someone Else, You have to wait untill a Dr. will release you. I know you said you want to admit yourself, more or less. And it is tru, the hosp HAS to take you no matter what, but if you go thatway, a Dr. will admit you. Just go over to the place and ASK them to admit you. All they can say is no. But they might go ahead and do it. For your own sake, Go Over there. Don't lose Hope. Always hold on to it.
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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: astrophel2]
      #190075 - 10/01/04 10:25 AM

Pardon my ignorance, but what is "mucomyst"?

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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: pecan]
      #190077 - 10/01/04 10:32 AM

Thank you.

I just need my psychiatric meds twiddled with, and I can't wait until February or whenever they will be able to fit me in for a 10-minute appointment at the clinic.

Whoever said I have "refractory" depression is right, I've heard that term before. I'm okay right now, I don't want to do this just yet though, exactly because of that. For some reason every time I see a new doctor (which is practically every time) they have this urge, like this need (I suppose it's because their pens are telling them to do it) to roll out the old roadmap of SSRIs again like they were selling peanuts at a ballpark: "proZAC? paxIL?"

It's not considered being uncooperative that I won't take Paxil because it has a known, almost guaranteed weight-gain component. Refusing to do things things that will make me gain weight is part of one of my axis I dXs.

But I've totally pooped on the SSRIs- the straight out SSRIs. The last one I tried was lexapro and it turned me into a blimp in addition to having such weak anti-depressant effects that I had to get on something else before the end of summer or I knew I wouldn't make it.

I have a rap sheet of failed meds so long. . .I don't want ECT. I really want some doctor to get creative and try something different. Would you believe no doctor has ever even attempted adding something like modafanil to my regime?

It took years for them to believe I have a real sleeping disorder that is separate and distinct from my depression, but that doesn't mean that I don't need sleep. My sleep deprivation might even be more dangerous than a normal person's, because that's when I really start to feel and believe that I am moving from 296.33 to 296.34, which means psychosis. .

Make no mistake, I don't WANT to be there. I've already done hospital time this year, and enough psych hospital time to last last several people's lifetimes. I was just hoping I could do this and not have to wait months. And at the same time benefit from the fact that I won't be crammed into a 7 minute slot where I don't even get to talk, but rather maybe actually get the attention of a doctor for 15 or 20 minutes maybe.

But I could have a horrible reaction or no reaction and then we won't really have gotten anwhere at all. Then how much longer will it be?

Amongst other experiences, I was in a psychiatric hospital for 4 and a half months when I was a teenager and 6,9 12-month institutionalizations for adolescents were en vogue. I know nothing like this is going to happen. But understand, I'm not interested in admitting myself in fear of risk to myself, for 3 day hold. I need a new medication. I can't say that "I don't care how long it takes," but I do know that, because of my insurance situation, this is probably the only way. There's nobody on the outside I can see right now.

Thank you again, though, for understanding the question. Thatnk god I don't have to walk in with a pentacle carved in my chest or anything. I quit diung that s* years ago.

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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: toe]
      #190079 - 10/01/04 10:46 AM

I know Exactly what you mean about the wieght gain on those funky meds....and I have to take Pro plus I have to take premarin, another gainer, and prednisone, another one, and he11, I'm on so many differant fatties, I couldn't tell you. I sure wish I could just reach thru here and give you something that would help.....I feel at a loss. I am trying to think of something abd I will be till I come up with it, then I will let you know. Okay??? Will you be there?

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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: pecan]
      #190094 - 10/01/04 12:00 PM

Dear Toe and Pecan,
--I gained 30 lbs on those SSRI's too. Plus they don't work for migraines. Plus on Celebrex, I got double vision and swollen hands well before the theraputic level.
--I went to a doc who said he always wondered why other docs don't regard weight gain as a serious side effect. Besides, getting depressed because of a serious weight gain kind of defeats the purpose of an anti-depressant, doesn't it?
--I'd been pushed into taking SSRIs for years and wondered why I was so fat when I hardly ate anything because of GI problems. I stopped taking all these type of SSRIs after the scary bout with Celebrex. I eventually lost the weight simply by not eating. At work, they asked for the name of my "new diet". I told them it was the "GERD/IBS" Diet. "Gastro-Esophageal Reflux Disease/Irritable Bowel Syndrome" which I'd developed after decades of barfing with migraines (plus abdominal surgeries) and too much aspirin and ibuprofen.
--Melatonin is supposed to help with Serotonin, I take a lot for sleep and have no side effects despite the fact that I got a lot of side effects on all those SSRIs like Depacote, Celebrex, etc.
--Welbutrin is the one anti-depressent-type drug which does not cause weight gain. In fact, it really suppressed my (feeble) appetite (so much so that I can't take it all the time or I get a migraine from not eating). AND, it seems to give me energy. Plus, docs don't seem to be so afraid of it as they are of other drugs.
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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: ellen1]
      #190111 - 10/01/04 12:52 PM

Mucomyst is a medication used for tylenol overdoses - a "liver saver." You can drink or inhale it, but neither is going to be a pleasant experience. Not only does it taste like a rank fart smells, but is embarassingly and powerfully odorous on its way out of the bowels. I could see nurses covering their noses.

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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: ellen1]
      #190115 - 10/01/04 01:06 PM

WoW does it really give you energy? My Sister said it gave her energy and cut her appetite, But I didn't beleive her. I don't know why, but you know how it is with siblings? I wonder if my Doc would switch me from prozac? Do you think that would be safe to just switch? I have that same diet, Man......But I ain't skinny. I am 5'8' and weigh 175 I don't care who knows. Ya Can't see me. HA HA. Maybe I could Lose a little of this "TONAGE" if I took welbutrin instead?

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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: pecan]
      #190119 - 10/01/04 01:13 PM

Prozac is rather safe to stop taking, according to my doctor. You may want to consider taking the wellbutrin in addition to the SSRI; my doctor prescribed that to give me an energy boost. It's also supposed to help with sexual side effects caused by the SSRI's, but I never noticed a difference.

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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: astrophel2]
      #190122 - 10/01/04 01:18 PM

Oh that would be cool. I have an appt on Mon. So I think I will ask. Thank You very much

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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: pecan]
      #190136 - 10/01/04 02:06 PM

You know thanks people. I am really quite happy that I read this thread. My PCP put me on Lexapro when I split from the ex. He also has me taking adderall for my ADHD at 10 mg x 2 a day. Recently I started on Crestor. I also have a couple of herniated disks that I take 6 mepergan capsules a day for. Now I am really glad that you all discussed the weight gain associated with the Lexapro. For the life of me I can not understand why I have not been losing any weight given the small amount of food I consume. I have also been very concerned that my ankles are always swollen. A neighbor told me she would bet it is the Lexapro. I initially thought it was the narcotics. Now after hearing about the known weight gain associated with this med I know exactly what it is. I am gonna stop taking the Best if kept off the board Lexapro. Should I ween because there can be withhdrawal??? Been on 10mg a day for 6 months. PM me if you need to. Just tell me if abruptly stopping is BAD. I have missed a day here and there. But maybe the half life is long enough that the withdrawals had not started. He put me on this cause I could not sleep. Sympathetic nervous system response and my adrenal glands would not stop pumping. If he had just given me a real sleeping pill like Chloral Hydrate or even a fair dose of benzo to sleep I would have been fine. Was a zombie for a month not sleeping. He had me taking two ambien a night. Got two hours of sleep. It gets you to sleep just doesn't keep you asleep. Then he switched me to Sonata and it took forever to fall asleep and then I would sleep 3 to 4 hours only. My PCP only will prescribe these sleeping pills. I tell you I just can not stand the pharmaceutical reps. They always have data showing that this is just as effective or more effective with less side effects. IMO you can get research data to show just about whatever you want. I really need to find a doctor nearing retirement. One that doesn't have time to speak to or want to be bothered by the company pushers. I may need to look to the very rural areas where it just does not justify a stop by the pushers.

Now toe I do not know you. I do not know your story at all. Something did ring clear to me. You stated that you never get to see the same doctor again. This sucks IMO and I am sorry this is the case. Before I finally finished college much later in life I would go to the VA clinic for all my medical needs. It was a pain but you would get in and the scripts were dirt cheap. Heck I would ask for 800 mg Motrin scrips. Pay my dollar and get over $50 worth of OTC motrin. But, you always had to see a different doc.

I have an idea you might wanna try. It is a Best if kept off the board load of work in my opinion and may result in bupkus. I don't know how big your town is and how many psychiatrists practice there. My idea is that you might want to give a shot at going down the list of psychiatrists in the phone book. Call up and ask to speak with the office manager. Tell the manager your whole story. Tell them how you are feeling. Tell them that all you have is this lousy medicaid insurance and what you are forced to go through. See if you can get their sympathy. I know this is a daunting and near impossible task. But if you just get the sympathy of one office manager to plead your case to the psychiatrist you may have a shot at finding a physician who actually went into medicine to help people and not for the money. To many of them are so concerned about you insurance. There operating costs are so high. But maybe, just maybe you get lucky.

Go ahead and tell me that I don't know what the F I am talking about. And, I do not know the situation you are facing. This is just a thought that passed through my mind when I read this thread. I wish you the best of luck


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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: jsumner]
      #190144 - 10/01/04 03:01 PM

This thread is really interesting and hits home for me because I spent a single night in a psych ward, voluntarily committing myself because I was convinced I needed psychiatric care, and thought, naive at nineteen, that this would be the best place for me, since this is what they supposedly specialize in, helping emotionally/mentally distressed people.

Well, I spend that night in a regular hospital bed, wearing one of those peek-a-boo nightgowns, with a few visits from a nurse who gave me a "poor you" look, and sat down and talked to me a few times, which I appreciated, But no psychiatrist, just a vist from my GP.
I shared my room with about four other people, and I witnessed severe mental illness. I realized I wasn't sick enough to be in this place, it was making me even more depressed, and checked out the following morning.

In Canada, even people who are very, very mentally ill are not kep in psychiatric wards for long.
I've seen this in my apartment building, where a woman with bi-polar, who shouldn't be living on her own, is taken to the hospital about once a week, stays overnight at one of the hospitals, and is back to square one the next day.
It's sad to see her on this merry go round, and they have about ten different people working her case, so nobody really has the whole story on who she is as a human being. They treat her more as an inconvenience, an annoyance.

But it's all part of the pattern of de-institutionalization. Releasing mentally ill patients into the community without any support to help them cope outside an institution. They should be a part of the community, but everyone needs support, and it's just not there.
It's sad and disturbing to witness this firsthand...


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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: jsumner]
      #190355 - 10/02/04 02:01 PM

Medicaid only covers 25 doctor's visits per year. I've used most of them up already 1) trying to replace the pcp who was prescribing my pain meds for my back when I had in insurance, going to the "pain" doctor, going to a the ER a countless times with out admission (I don't think they they count it a a doctor's visit if you're admitted, but I could be wrong), multiple consultations with the resident in orthopedic surgery who can be thanked for the extenet of work that had to been down on my foot when I was finally referred to a podiatrist. . .the podistrist. . .you see?

Medicaid isn't insurance. It's the US Government's safety net that they hope they can use in lieu of having to god around with a hand cart and a shovel ylelling "BRING OUT YOUR DEAD! BRING OUT YOUR DEAD!" And I'm sure there are plenty of self-pay patients at those private practice who the doctors give a bit of a break, but without subsidies. doctors just can't AFFORD to operate a medicaid-based practice.

I have so much diferent s* swirling around in me now. I just got locked out of my apartment for 2 hours! 2 hours andd the mainainence folks did not come. And I'm going to be charged $50 bucks for that!

I want to just ad mit myself, now, get it over with, because I know how shitty things are going to get and I have people I'd like to impress, not fall to pieces in front of. Yeah, it's pretty much a given that the eating disorder is here to roost as long as it so chooses-there are plenty of wonderful treatment centers out there for anorexia and bulimia that have a 3-month regimin and charge 1500 dollars per day.

When I spoke with my father, who is leaving for Tibet in 3 days, last night and told him I had done all I could but that if I don't get a call next week with an appointment with someone from the local clinic, or at least a reasonable timeframe, then I WILL be admitting myself to get my meds fixed. It's funny how his response was kind of like the first poster's. Ny intentions would have nothing at all to do with therapy- this is a purely medical thing. My father was like, "well I certainly hope you try harder than you did at Roger's (eating diorder reatment facility), it seemd like you were just going through the motions there.

Whatever. I invite any of these people to spend 21 days on a locked general psych ward, or an entire season in a "treatment program".

SSRIs don't work either. Is that because I'm just "going through the motions?"

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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: toe]
      #197291 - 10/31/04 03:08 AM

Hi! Just wanted to let ou know that I still haven't gotten any help yet I am crying every day on and off from wake till sleep, and through sleep, unless I'm screaming at someone for useing a handicapped parking spot as a loading zone and then going into a store and screaming at the CS and telling him that if his security people don't start looking out for these things-i.e-if I ever find one of their 2 handicapped parking spots occupied by an illegal vehicle again they will lose all my business, which doesn't add up to much in groceries but will cost them at least 10,000 dollars a year at their pharmacy. Of course, my wife will boycott them too, which push that number up to 15-16,000, plus perhaps the extra 75 bucks we scrounge on top of my food stamps for groceries each month, will be nearly 19 grand.

Think I'm going 296.33 to 296.34?

I do.

But nobody gives a ratsass, as long as I can bathe myself every 3 weeks, right?

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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: toe]
      #197298 - 10/31/04 05:37 AM

No need for my 2 cents, I have deleted message. I wish you well TOE!>>>>>>>>>>NEON

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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: neonsign2003]
      #197306 - 10/31/04 07:07 AM

Okay.....heres the deal....these places will take Medicare but NOT Medicaid...i know it's a pain to wait but i have encountered the same situation...Hang in there...Go to your family (PCP) Dr. and say hey Doc......i need some help until i caN get checked in....keeep asking..you will find help ..Peace FyErMoN

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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: toe]
      #197357 - 10/31/04 12:22 PM

"The last one I tried was lexapro and it turned me into a blimp."

AMEN!!! I am still carrying around that extra 25 lbs. She knows what she is talking about - give her credit. And I only took it 3 weeks!! It's true.

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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: FyErMoN]
      #197359 - 10/31/04 12:36 PM

To the best of my knowledge, Medicaid will not pay for a psych hospital stay.

Have you checked out http://www.psychlaws.org ?

If you are in a state of mind where you can even make this decision, go to a general hospital and accept their care. There is a difference between psych hospitals and "regular hospitals (I know you know this, toe, I'm just pointing it out for everyone's benefit). The quality of psych treatment may not be as good, but if you've already decided which meds you will take and which ones you won't, it sounds like all you need is someone with a prescription pad. I think this is your best bet to get it paid for and get stabilized on meds.

Whatever hospital you go to or get taken to, explain the problem, and let them shuffle you wherever you can get the most treatment with the most coverage.

If you have a disease where the potential end result is suicide or psychosis, then you have to get this done even if it's not where you'd ideally like to go.

-yawkaw


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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: yawkaw3]
      #197381 - 10/31/04 02:24 PM

Yawkaw, I'm on SSI for mental. There is no way they would not pay for crisis stabilization care.

It's okay now. Just every 4-6 hours I can't stop crying for 3-5 hours. But I don't matter, I am the sh*t of the world. I'm the reason your taxes are so high and why you can't retire until 67 and I might as well have 7 children I can't feed.

Happy [censored] birthday. I should have taken that methadone earlier.

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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: yawkaw3]
      #197392 - 10/31/04 02:52 PM

yawkaw3 Thanks for the link!! it's a keeper!

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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: toe]
      #197405 - 10/31/04 04:41 PM

Toe I am not even going to pretend to understand what it feels like to have your condition or patronize you in anyway. I can't imagine how frustrating that type of disorder is. I have known and loved people who were manic depressive and para skitz, and its hell to watch, I can't imagine the hell it is to be trapped inside the body of someone with it.

I DO understand the frustration of not being able to better manage your own health care ie: pharamaceuticals that work, etc. I love it when youve been on meds for YEARS and you go to a new doc that insists HE knows better and switches you. I have ADHD and the doctors tried everything till I finally found what worked. Then I moved. Then hell broke loose....every new doc I saw wanted to "try" something different..a different dosage etc. ADHD may not seem that disabling to those when compared with depression but I can tell you it raised hell with my life for years untreated and I didnt want to go back to that route.

the only thing I can offer is this..if you have records cant your PCP give you enough meds to get you through or did you try that and I missed it? Its just a athought...maybe a lame one but a thought..

Best of luck really.

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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: mykidsmother]
      #197407 - 10/31/04 04:44 PM

Oh and as a post script to you toe..there are many of our loved ones that paid into SSA for years but didnt live long enough to collect it. As a citizen of this country you are entitled to the benefits you get. Its not welfare, its not a handout..its a benefit (one of the few) you have of being a US citizen. Dont ever feel you are less than, you are taking care of business and its your right to get these monies and benefits. the only shame here is taht it isnt more. It certainly isnt enough to live on.

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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: toe]
      #197408 - 10/31/04 04:50 PM

Toe - Unfortunately crying 65% of teh time does not constitutute a danger to yourself or others. I know about it I cried once for 3 days.

Medicaid only covers 5150 and 5250 situations (the cali designation for 72 and 14-day psyc holds as a danger to yourself or others).

And my psyc says I'm making progress --- I'm no longer a danger to myself, now I'm a danger to other people!

But seriously, I've gotta go buy apples - I hear they'r delivering kids door to door tonight.


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Re: How do I admit myself to a psych unit on Medicaid? [Re: toe]
      #200942 - 11/17/04 06:27 AM

toe, I don't come to this board much anymore, so I have just seen your post and wish I had earlier. I found a non-prescription 'supplement' that has really helped me; you may want to check it out. It is called lithium orotate - do a search on it - there is a lot of info out there. Basically it is a very, very, very mild natural form of lithium with none of the risks associated with prescription strength lithium. It seems to be most helpful to those with bi-polar dx, but it also makes claims to provide significant relief for depression. I found an offer for a 30 day 'trial' at feelserenity.com. Within a week of taking the recommended dose I experienced a definite improvement. I had been at the bottom of a deep black hole that was getting deeper for months and had been experiencing more and more erratic mood swings. The LO leveled me right out and lifted me out of the black hole. I urge you to check this stuff out. Here is a link that includes a message board for users of LO:
http://mysite.verizon.net/res003jh/lithium-orotate/
The site I used for my trial is a bit pricey - do a search and you will find sources more reasonable. Good luck!


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