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FDA Warns of Terrorist Drug Tampering
Aug 12, 8:09 AM (ET)
By DIEDTRA HENDERSON
(AP) Acting Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Lester M. Crawford announces two new drugs to help...
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WASHINGTON (AP) - "Cues from chatter" gathered around the world are raising concerns that terrorists might try to attack the domestic food and drug supply, particularly illegally imported prescription drugs, acting Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Lester M. Crawford says.
In an interview with The Associated Press, Crawford said Wednesday that he had been briefed about al-Qaida plans uncovered during recent arrests and raids, but declined further comment about any possible threats.
"While we must assume that such a threat exists generally, we have no specific information now about any al-Qaida threats to our food or drug supply," said Brian Roehrkasse, spokesman for the Homeland Security Department.
Crawford said the possibility of such an attack was the most serious of his concerns about the increase in states and municipalities trying to import drugs from Canada to save money.
"We get our cues from chatter that occurs around the world, which is related to us by the intelligence community, and also from past incidents and things that happened domestically," he said.
Crawford noted the 1982 Tylenol case, in which packages of the extra-strength variety of the leading painkiller were removed from store shelves on Chicago's west side, filled with cyanide and returned to stores for purchase. Seven unsuspecting consumers were killed, and the incident prompted widespread adoption of tamperproof packaging.
"I would think that's something they would be looking at," Crawford said of terrorists. "Nothing like that has happened," he added. "But it is a source of continuing concern."
FDA is under mounting pressure - and faces a lawsuit filed by the state of Vermont - to soften its opposition to importing drugs from Canada, which is seen by many consumers and state and local government officials as a way to shave thousands to millions of dollars from drug bills.
The FDA has held fast, saying it is concerned about the safety and effectiveness of the illegally imported drugs. So far, however, the agency has done little more than issue warning letters. And Crawford said the agency has not decided whether to vigorously defend itself against the Vermont lawsuit.
The agency's jitters about Canadian prescription imports are many. According to Crawford, some drugs are shipped without proper refrigeration, some have the wrong potency and some are counterfeit, lacking active ingredients.
Crawford's top concern is that terrorists could strike at drugs.
He said he was briefed about the al-Qaida threats uncovered by recent arrests and raids. Asked whether the briefing covered potential terror strikes against products the agency regulates - including food and drugs - Crawford declined further comment.
Two recent product tampering episodes the agency faced this summer ended without injury or death.
Baby food, which Crawford said was probably singled out for its "shock" effect, was laced with ground castor beans in Irvine, Calif. The contamination source is unclear; no arrest has been made. Ricin, a deadly toxin, is made from castor beans.
And a shipment of lemons from Argentina allegedly impregnated with an unidentified "harmful biological substance" was barred from entry at the Port of Newark, N.J., on Aug. 6. The U.S. Coast Guard, Homeland Security Department and the FDA worked on the investigation, freezing the lemons to preserve the contaminant.
"There was nothing we could find in there," Crawford said.
On other issues, Crawford said:
_A second review links antidepressants with higher suicide rates among children. While outside observers who have read both reports say they contain enough detail for the FDA to recommend Prozac as the first drug of choice for depressed youths, Crawford said the agency will wait until its advisory committee meets in mid-September to give the FDA an expert basis for action.
_The agency approved two new injectable drugs, pentetate calcium trisodium and pentetate zinc trisodium, that speed the body's ability to rid itself of radioactive contamination. The drugs are the first products approved to treat contamination with plutonium, americium or curium, which could be released by a "dirty" bomb.
_Before year's end, the agency will provide regulations that define low-, reduced- or carbohydrate-free items. The FDA is leaning toward educating the public by highlighting healthier foods with a "starburst" tag or color-coded label.
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I was just wondering if this is linked to all the recent shutdowns of ops? Scary.
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Lablady2
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Just read this - what total "BS" - read that - anything to keep the price of drugs in this country sky high and to stop importation of drugs.
Used to work in pharmaceuticals before switching to education and know all about how the FDA "does business" - they and the pharma companies are in cahoots - that is the foxes keep good watch over the henhouse(s)...
Terrorists my backside - all FDA cares about is keeping big pharma profitable - all FDA bigshots and all pharma execs have politicians in their hip pockets.......
This terrorism issue has reached MAX with me - am sick of it - nothing but a ruse for politicians - especially the Republicans who control the big corporations.....
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viper269
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First how would they know what pills was coming to the use and when
Most drugs coming from Canada comes from drug stores like are Walgreen's
As for people like us on the boards at order over seas how would they know and if we died from bad pills people would just think we they was bad pills
And I think they would want us to know it was them it funny everything the government wants to take away from us some how now has something to do
With Terrorist how much of a dummy do they think we are
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I was just getting ready to post this article.
My first impression was that it is an excuse to waste even more taxpayer's money on intercepting packages from IOP's, partially to stop the illegal imporation of controlled medications and partially to preserve the tradition of American pharmaceutical companies giving us the shaft on drug prices.
Could this be the reason for people here posting about the increased number of "love letters" as of late?
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Blake13
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Bush and his cronies will do anything to keep us as scared as they can. They create more terror than they prevent.
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therhino
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I dont see the coralation to Bush on this one?
could you help me see the light.
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I cant say where Bush plays into this, but I too believe it's a bunch of hype designed to scare people away from buying meds online. I had read this article but I didnt read one shred of evidence that it is true, i.e. no reports from any individuals actually taking or receiving tainted meds. How could terrorists intercept a package someone ordered unless that person was ordering from a "terrorist" pharmacy?
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from my point of view, my opinion, which is mine, it's not bush but it's big business, the money, payoffs, slushfunds, contributions for their own cause. and that crosses both Dem's and republicans. it's not any one party but the gang, or mob we call the US goverment....
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first of all, hibbs, i want to thank you for posting this.
terrorists will not run my life, period, if it's my time to go, it's my time to go, whatever, i've been lucky so far. i have cheated death so many times already, it's a wonder i have not developed some sort of "immortality complex" if such a thing existed.
terrorists have killed "a few" people on U.S. shores so i wouldn't doubt if they would try it again (duuh) using whatever means they can think of. not rocket science. drugs have been tampered with before.
what makes anyone think a report like this would never come out if a democrat ran the office of president? i highly doubt if all our problems will magically disappear. but i don't want to start a political debate. in fact, i want it to stop right here. with all due respect, i am tired of every subject turning into one. thank you.
terrorists are XXXXXXXs(i can't believe they let my original word on the board!!!). they will not run my life. millions of people die in car accidents. i still drive. more likely i'll die in a car accident than from tainted drugs. if i live, fantastic. if i die, oh well, time for me to go. life is scary. the trick is to be aware, not scared.
sorry about this post. might have to come back and edit later. i hope i don't get flamed too badly. just had to get it out of my system. i feel better now.
i really do love and respect all of you on this board. peace.
c.(angel)
Edited by AngelWolf13 (08/12/04 01:38 PM)
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DonBarba
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Why do you have to be so reasonable? (sarcasticly written)
thanks for the post.
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Lablady2
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Could WELL have something to do with the increase in seized meds. There is a LOT more to this than meets they eye!
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Mercedes116x
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Ordering controlled meds from other countries IS illegal, as should ordering any meds without a prescription be. This is a reasonable concern for our country. Ordering these meds is dangerous. You have no idea what you are ordering.
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LOL LOL LOL 
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Alright, this is not original but it is funny, got it from the affiliate board:
new NR place www.jihad-rx.com
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Lablady2
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My you are a self righteous one - and may I ask what you are doing in this forum? Do you have any background in pharmaceuticals, chemistry, manufacturing of medications, or perhaps you are employed by the PhMRA or whatever they call themselves now since PMA sounded too money grubbing and they had to bring their research pitch into it. Let me say it ONE MORE TIME - Pharmaceutical companies + FDA + lobbyists + Politicians make for a very bad combination - of course then you can throw in the insurance companies for good measure.
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mercedes,
i have to agree with lablady here.... why do you think we need a board like this? personally, it has been a blessing for me. why do you think suicide is a very real and serious option for many of us? we wouldn't be here if we were receiving adequate care. if i found a compassionate doctor who wasn't afraid of going to jail, losing his/her license, etc. i wouldn't need to be here. if i hit the lottery, perhaps i'd be able to find a private doctor who feels this way. until then, i don't really have much of a choice. most of us here are in the same situation, unfortunately, and until this problem of under-treatment (or even, in many cases, utter lack of treatment) is remedied, countless numbers of us are asking ourselves, "is living in this kind of pain really worth it?" honestly, i have weighed my options. order from an op or kill myself eventually, because i can't stand it? i choose the former. if you can think of any other options for me, or for any of us, please don't hesisitate to inform us. i will always take new advice into consideration. thank you.
cheers, c.(angel)
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DonBarba
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Reasonable AND kind. How strange.....
Thanks for the "big cyberhug"
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While I agree that this is more than likely political hype, this is exactly why I would never order meds from Pakistan...
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anytime, donbarba, anytime. 
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I think there's a bigger chance of getting some fake SUGAR pills from a straight up scam b4 the terrorist are gonan tamper with meds. this is just our GOVT. trying to scare us so the big pharmaceutical (or however u spell it) pad their pockets. I'm sure the terrorists have better schemes in the works. They always release info like this at PERFECT TIMES
the day after Rob Beglovich IL senate or congress or governor or whatever he was. anyways the day after he announced a plan to import cheaper drugs the govt. released a thing bout terrorist tampering with meds imported
just my opinion
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Steve having worked for big pharm I can tell you that FDA is just the big fat fox guarding the henhouse. Look at the Vioxx mess - coincidence NIH said cholesterol standards/numbers should be lowered when another big pharm came out with another "me too" cholesterol lowering drug - I think not. There is some poor guy out there now with his muscles atrophied for life due to his cholesterol being so low from taking whatever.
The FDA does not care one you know what about our health - they care about preserving the huge out of control costs and profits of big pharm.
This is all a HUGE scam and the joke is on us while they put OP's out of business and seize IOP products coming into country right and left - and get on credit card companies not to accept orders from OP's or IOP's. It is time we all banded together and made our voices heard - but if GWB wins this election - forgetaboutit - we are D O N E!!!!!!!!!!!
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I agree with LabLady2. Anything to keep us having to buy meds at the rediculous cost and degradation of the US Doctors!
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How can I get it through people's fat heads that this is not a partisan issue?
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My most recent Customs Luv Note contained the One page "Beware Beware" risky business sheet complete with the Cobra wrapped around the Pill Bottle. In addition, a new paragraph has been added On page 1, before the "Proceeding Elections" Sign off. It reads:
Enclosed is an election of proceedings document Please indicate your election, sign, date, and return the document to the address indicated on the document (Jamaica NY).
NEW VERBAGE: For future reference, enclosed is a public service announcement that warns the general public of the dangers associated with importations of pharmaceuticals. Please note that future attempts to import controlled susbstances my result in personal penalties or criminal prosecution.
Has any one seen one of these b4?? Does anyone have a clue what it's about? Used 2 be they just confiscated the stuff. Now it looks like they might be coming after the importer too, which rises a whole bunch of legalese, such as, how can they prove U purchased it? Not to mention setting up a fall guy that you dont like and let him take the heat, also using a fake name for the ship to address...this seems so full of holes.............
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Lablady2
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Yes - in recent seizure letter from Miami (I am in NYC) I got an "insert" from our wonderfully protective (of big pharm) FDA stating that importing meds is not safe and that future orders may result blah blah blah. No one is going to come after you - but I know that from now on I am sticking only to ONE IOP.............
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Steve having worked for big pharm I can tell you that FDA is just the big fat fox guarding the henhouse. Look at the Vioxx mess - coincidence NIH said cholesterol standards/numbers should be lowered when another big pharm came out with another "me too" cholesterol lowering drug - I think not. There is some poor guy out there now with his muscles atrophied for life due to his cholesterol being so low from taking whatever.
The FDA does not care one you know what about our health - they care about preserving the huge out of control costs and profits of big pharm.
This is all a HUGE scam and the joke is on us while they put OP's out of business and seize IOP products coming into country right and left - and get on credit card companies not to accept orders from OP's or IOP's. It is time we all banded together and made our voices heard - but if GWB wins this election - forgetaboutit - we are D O N E!!!!!!!!!!!
I AGREE IT IS A HUGE SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!! it sux
so many of the same drugs are so dirt cheap in other countries but not here. I just feel the FDA or whoever makes the laws governing the FDA or whateever is getting their pockets padded soemhow whether it be kcikback, contributions, favors, stock or whatever so they keep the prices of our meds sky high and keep us from getting the same cheaper drug elsewhere
just my opinoion & I may or may not have been drinking when i wrote this as a disclaimer which by the way drinking as I am sure you all know kills hundered of thousands of ppl every year and destroys relationships and lives and families and causes abuse and all that. Alcohol But alcohol is acceptable such BS. just messed up laws and priorities they shoudl chill on us citizens!!!!!!!! We are just trying to live happy, healthier, better more productive lives!!!!!!!!
again my opinion
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