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Ozzy and Sharon Osbourne were on Larry King tonight and announced that their daughter Kelly is in rehab, addicted to pain killers. Ozzy said he was amazed people could get pain pills on the internet.
Here we go again...another nail in the OP coffin....
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Ozzy and Sharon Osbourne were on Larry King tonight and announced that their daughter Kelly is in rehab, addicted to pain killers. Ozzy said he was amazed people could get pain pills on the internet.
Here we go again...another nail in the OP coffin....
That's just what we need. But look ar the family....have any of them NOT been in rehab?
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yawkaw3
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Found this article:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040403/ap_en_tv/kelly_osbourne_rehab_4
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Sharon Osbourne said that an English tabloid notified them Friday that they had a photograph of Kelly in an apparent drug deal.
Kelly Osbourne was confronted and eventually acknowledged a drug problem "after a lot of twisting," Sharon Osbourne said.
Got narc'ed on by a tabloid...
I guess we can all expect a whole new round of MTV/VH1 specials on painkillers. Maybe they can recycle the same footage Jack did (he's supposedly celebrating a year of sobriety later this month, according to the article).
I hope she gets sober, but I wish substance abuse was nothing new to Hollywood. Seems like it's wherever you turn, especially with painkillers.
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yawkaw3
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And here is the Larry King transcript:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Music/04/02/osbournes.lkl/index.html
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OZZY OSBOURNE: Pain pills, which I was amazed you can buy online now.
KING: Like, what pain pills?
OZZY OSBOURNE: Vicodin, Norco ...
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KING: At your worst, how bad was it?
OZZY OSBOURNE: Very bad. I'll tell you, I was hitting up like -- because in my day, you couldn't get it online and thank God, I would have been dead if I could have gotten it online.
Great!
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potatoboy99
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Wow, that was a good read. Thanks for posting the link, yawkaw.
Boy what a family. It would have been more surprising if she turned out not to be a drug addict. This just seems like a sad, foregone conclusion. Apparantly there is another sister in this family, who refused to participate in the reality show. Probably she is the one without the addict genes.
I wish Kelly well in her recovery, although I have my doubts that her brother has actually put together an honest year with ZERO drugs or alcohol. I mean who could tell? Most teenagers are so depressed and sleep deprived in the normal course of just being teenagers that even the perfectly straight-laced ones look like they could be on some substance or other. I was often accused of being on drugs when I was 15 and 16, but I didn't even try any recreational substance until my second year of college. Except maybe beer.
Does recovery now become a subplot on the Osbornes reality show? I don't get MTV so I never see any Osbornes on tv except for Sharon's truly awful daytime chat show (that comes on where I live right after Jerry Springer).
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kittie74
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I saw them on Larry King last night. When Ozzy talked about Kelly getting her drugs online and named them: 'Vicodin, Norco', my first thought was 'Oh Great! We're screwed! If the Osbornes are gonna go public and talk about the 'evils' of OPs, it will cause a lot media attention. OPs will = drug addiction, rehab, a fallen teen. Sheesh!
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sasi
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If she got them from an OP then what was she doing giving money to some guy in a car? Sounds like she got them off the street rather than from online. Maybe she made her contact online or maybe the person that she bought them off of got them from an OP?
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I got right on my soap box and sent Larry King (through CNN's web site) an irate email pointing out how the hype and hysteria is going to make millions of Americans suffer, because, as someone pointed out here, this is another nail in the coffin of pain medicine.
This has got to stop!
The most ridiculous two things that came out of the interviews.
1) They forced Kelly, at age 19, to go into rehab, even though they said they DID NOT KNOW if she is actually addicted to painkillers.
2) Pain killers stashed away in a baggie? About 500 of them, according to Oz. That sounds weird to me.
I am not sure how the English tabloid mentioned saw this drug deal go down. I thought she got them off the Internet because it's so easy to do.
What I personally think happened is:
Kelly's been ordering drugs online, through organizations that we here know exist. These are usually 100 per cent legal and require documentation.
Then, I think, she must have done an illegal drug deal, presumably for something a little stronger than a weak narcotic like hydro.
Then, fearing legal repercussions, they shipped their daughter out of harm's way and into rehab, which makes arrest harder, and will delay it.
Either that, or she was already in legal peril and she was instructed to go into rehab, and part of the deal was to go public and once again, demonize and villify pain meds, and hopefully get the general public to denounce narcotics and condemn the Internet for making them available.
Just some of the possibilities my admittedly conspiracy-theory-addled brain can come up with.
In the mean time more doctors will have popular hysteria and news stories to point to when they tell us to tough out the pain or take up yoga.
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kittie74
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Good point, sasi. She must have been getting pot or something more 'sinister' from a guy in the street. I live in LA. Near the USC campus, which is in the middle of a pretty run-down neighborhood (very ironic considering that it's probably the most expensive university in the country), there are certain streets that are known for being drug-dealer hangouts. The rich kids from USC are famous for basically doing 'drive-through' drug deals. They never even have to get out of the car. They just drive down the street, slow down the car and wait for someone to approach and make an offer.
My guess is that she had been spotted in an area like that and someone tipped off the tabloids. A drug dealer probably set her up and got paid some quick cash to help the tabloid get the shot. Very sleazy stuff.
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prettyday
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###**@#*&%%$#@ and AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't these people (the Osbornes) get it?
They have had their moment of fame and it is over....
The record contracts for the kids, the talk shows, all that, is over. It is time for the next people to take their bow in the spotlight.
Everytime they sense they are fading a little bit, something like this comes up.
Does that sound cruel? I'm sorry. I sure don't include Mrs. Osborne's struggle with cancer in this mix; but when Jack Osborne announced that he had problems with hydro, and didn't get enough press, he promptly upped the ante to Oxycontin, and in a desperate push, absinthe. Come on.
Can we see the bag? How about the dates of the transactions?
Do you really believe Ozzy does not know how to get anything, anytime, anywhere?
I am an L.A. girl, and you can take it from me....if someone like Ozzy suddenly had to do his own scoring, he would lose that "befuddled" air really quickly and get to the business at hand.
I am so sick of people using someone else's survival as their ticket to publicity. Mr Dietl, et al.
Doesn't Ozzy have chronic pain? Didn't Sharon say in defense of him that that is why he sounds the way he does?
Because he "must" take a lot of Vicodin for his neck injuries, I remember that quote from an early interview when they were all over the press.
Must.
Must.
Must.
Don't tell me "must" turned into "forgot about it."
I bitterly know a little better than that!
Oh, and what about that ATV accident last year? Did his pain vanish on schedule for once?
I am really just below depressed at the selfishness of people who are already well set for money and doubtless have more medical avenues for any treatment
I mean ANY treatment
hydrotherapy, monitored PT, well-thought-out tapering programs,
and of course,
many drs who will write anything anytime at their house, and deliver their meds as well.
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lmay769
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I agree with you 100%. You could not have summed it up better. This will create mass hysteria which will in turn lead to a 'knee jerk' reaction by government, who will give absolutely no thought to the suffering they will be causing for millions.
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katrina
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Well publicity works! because we are all talking about it.
I recon if there is a demand there will ALWAYSbe a supplier.
People like us are big business easy money!
Yep there could well be a wave of hysteria bur some one some where will always be willing to feed the needy.
You might just have to look a bit more underground for meds.
Not a good thing but not a bad thing if you are prone to abuse medicine.
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Pretty Day-
I agree with your assessment of the situation. And drug addicts are notorious liars about how much and what they used. Besides, with all the drama going on in the Osbourne family, and with a father and brother who are admitted addicts, the one-upmanship playing out here is very clear.
I don't know WHAT the value to Kelly or Jack in making themselves seem like "big-time" players/addicts would have in this situation, except maybe to get the public to take them as adults rather than as the children they are. Knowing this family (c'mon, would YOU allow YOUR family to be filmed night and day in your home??? NOT ME!) and the publicness of their lives, the OPEN abuse of alcohol and prescription medications, the child-like tantrums that Kelly has thrown on the show, and the obscene behavior that passes as "the norm" for this family, I am far from surprised about anything like this coming out.
And Ozzy has been obviously permanently damaged from his addictions in the past 4 decades. It makes one wonder if there isn't abuse and neglect of the children (Kelly and Jack, only the other daughter seems to have it together) going on...
ANd really, the rich and famous would not have to resort to online ordering when there are doubtless many doctors in their pockets with much better prescriptions than hydro for sale.
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DAdrian
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If she got them from an OP then what was she doing giving money to some guy in a car? Sounds like she got them off the street rather than from online. Maybe she made her contact online or maybe the person that she bought them off of got them from an OP?
EXACTLY!! If she was using OP's, why was she busted by the paparazzi making a buy on the street?
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ReOkie
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As long as their are online questionaire places available to get most any pill you want, online abuse will happen.
Places like NWW, Dr. Williams & YOD are clearing the way for a more respectable way of doing online business.
Does anyone else agree that record OP's should be the only OP? Just curious.
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There is no doubt in MY mind that Ozzie suffers from severe neurological damage from years of chronic alcohol abuse. I would speculate that alcohol is the main culprit for his current quality of life - not pain meds.
What I find to be the most disturbing aspect of the Osbourne saga is that they (the Osbournes, MTV, etc.) exploit Ozzies pathetic and heart breaking physical and mental state for laughs. I guess the seduction of money and attention is worth more than a persons dignity.
And I agree with others
how dare they blame OPs when they have the money to access any doctor feel good that suites their needs - how hypocritical. I am sure Ozzie never had to used an online pharmacy.
The Osbournes need to reflect and examine themselves, their family dysfunctions, and the REAL reason both children have substance abuse problems. The internet and online pharmacies are not to blame
but Ops will indeed sustain more undeserved negative attention.
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yawkaw3
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DAdrian,
The point is what was said in the transcript. Scroll up to read the part about OP's, I quoted it in one of my posts in this thread. THAT is what people are concerned about.
I'd be surprised if there were ever an addict who only got from one source. Who knows what she was buying in the street. It's likely she got her stuff from a multitude of places.
The Osbournes were ridiculous to bring OP's into this.
-yawkaw
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hunt1
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WHAT'S THAT SAYING THAT APPLES DON'T FALL FAR FROM THE TREE? WELL I THINK THAT APPLE JUST MIGHT BEING LYING UNDERNEATH THAT TREE!!!!
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Absolutely agree with the statement another nail in the OP coffin. I cringe when I read yet another bust with these celebrities! They can get anything they want due to their fame and money from many different sources, OP's, regular doctors, friends, dealers, etc., but it is always the internet that gets blamed. I can just hear Sharon Osbourne now (who prides herself on "telling it like it is") how the OP's should be shut down, they corrupted her kids. Bull! When that show first came on what where those kids, 15 and 16? They were up all night, going out all hours of the night living the life of celebrity. Sharon herself said after Jack's rehab that she did not like him going out late with certain older people and she blames herself for not stopping him. C'mon it is more their friends, hangers on, dealers, etc. that are to blame. It is this notoriety and heavy press coverage that will sink it for the rest of us.
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prettyday
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If she got them from an OP then what was she doing giving money to some guy in a car? Sounds like she got them off the street rather than from online. Maybe she made her contact online or maybe the person that she bought them off of got them from an OP?
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EXACTLY!! If she was using OP's, why was she busted by the paparazzi making a buy on the street?
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Well, that is another dreadful component to this story...some PM clinics are only too happy to do random tests on their pts and then report other substances (cannibis, cocaine, methamp, unscripted benzos)
---What they fail to realize is that CP patients, while showing a lot of patience, balance and control, are still prey to the same demons as the rest of the population; need for escape, need to be cool, need to be up articially so as to keep a house and keep it clean.
should they resort to illegal drugs? ABSOLUTELY NOT!
It is not a reason to cut off those who do use illegal drugs.
But people are scared of this dx, so they resort to scorn and closing their minds; thinking this will keep the bad pain juju away from them and theirs....
so when a story like this breaks, it just gives all sorts of people a delightful rush to judgement.
Kind of like when every actress was considered a prostitute because of her exposure to men, lack of funds, and general ignorance and leering from the public eye.
If people would just listen...wait! I have an idea!
What if we published a log of our daily activities, struggles, and hourly pain, that still shows the delightful human beings we are!!!
Don't you think people would say, "Oh, okay, he/she's just like my uncle/aunt who's been in pain for so long and is problably a junkie....hmmmmmm, oh man, is this what she goes thru every day?"
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actnan
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Lets remember that lots of people were going to rehab a loooong time ago, long before there were OPs or internet, or personal computers. This is not new news.
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hunt1
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Amen to that!!!!!!
Excellent point
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sasi
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I find it so laugable that Ozzy would say that if he could have gotten drugs online that he would be dead when he had more sources than we could ever imagine and probably could have gotten (and did get) whatever he wanted whenever he wanted it without the internet.
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LeighA
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Sasi -
It's funny you say that. Last night on one of the smut shows, ET or Extra, they said Ozzy's Dr. in L.A. is being investigated for overprescribing meds to Ozzy after his accident. Of course he can get what he wants when he wants it. Sad...
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I find it so laugable that Ozzy would say that if he could have gotten drugs online that he would be dead when he had more sources than we could ever imagine and probably could have gotten (and did get) whatever he wanted whenever he wanted it without the internet.
As much as I may like the man's early musical output, his current condition is living proof that overdosing on drugs or alcohol is actually not the WORST thing that substance abuse can bring to you. Jeezus, I'm sipping on a beer right now and taking two long looks at it as I contemplate Ozzy Osbourne's nearly retarded mind and his damaged beyond repair neurological systems...those that control the muscles, hand/eye coordination, etc. The thought of the man behind the wheel of a moving vehicle is enough to make anyone cringe with fear.
But, sadly, you are right. I would imagine that Ozzy never had to wait more than about 20 minutes for just about any drug that you could imagine, and then some, in his adult life. But it's the EVIL INTERNET PHARMACIES that are to blame for his sad condition...you can hear the slimy DAs looking to further their careers over this one rubbing those hands with glee as we speak.
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PrivateRealm
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I find it so laugable that Ozzy would say that if he could have gotten drugs online that he would be dead when he had more sources than we could ever imagine and probably could have gotten (and did get) whatever he wanted whenever he wanted it without the internet.
I hate to say it, but I wouldn't be suprised to hear in the future that Ozzy were i rehab for pain medication abuse due to "buying pills online" now that he knows about them. And though it may seem that everyone would know about OP's, many do not. ANd it is better left that way as the relative of mine who was stealing my pills due to an adiction is the last person I would tell about OP's even to save them from taking my own meds.
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Karma2678
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I would just like to mention that when Winona Ryder was caught shoplifting and caught with all different types of prescription drugs they had also found out that she was ordering from op's those ones that use to be all over the place the point and click ones in different names. So celebrity's using OP's has been in the spotlight before. I think what happened with Kelly was that when any teenager hears and see's there own family taking drugs they become curious as to the feeling of the pain killers. Kelly had access to whatever Ozzy was being prescribed and he probably did not keep his meds under lock and key. She may have gotten into his meds then liked them got hooked and was getting them any way she could after that. She was probably ordering online and on the streets anyway she could get her hands on them. I use to watch the osbournes show alot and Ozzy stressed to his kids not to drink and use drugs because of what has happened to him. It was the last thing he wanted them to do. It's kind of like the saying "Do as I say do not as I do"!
But even normal kids are experimenting with all kinds of drugs prescription drugs, illegal drugs, I even saw good morning america about kids now using some type of cold medicine that is used for people who have high blood pressure and kids are abusing and OTC drug. For famous kids with so much money at there disposal it just get's worse for them.
The problem is with all this attention on addiction to painkillers is the reason I cannot get my regular doctor to just prescribe me the meds he and I both know that I need. I just watched the Oprah Show today about mothers addicted to pain meds and was thinking about how much attention "vicodin" will be getting from it.
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SandyFeet
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I just watched the Oprah Show today about mothers addicted to pain meds and was thinking about how much attention "vicodin" will be getting from it.
Karma,
I watched the show, too. I am curious to know if others watched it and what they thought....maybe it should be a diffrerent thread?
It is late tonight...tommorrow I could start a new thread...or maybe someone with a little more ambition than me right now will do the honors.
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pickles
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As much as I may like the man's early musical output, his current condition is living proof that overdosing on drugs or alcohol is actually not the WORST thing that substance abuse can bring to you. Jeezus, I'm sipping on a beer right now and taking two long looks at it as I contemplate Ozzy Osbourne's nearly retarded mind and his damaged beyond repair neurological systems...those that control the muscles, hand/eye coordination, etc.
Actually, i watched VH1 Behind The Music the other night,Ozzy's physical condition is the result of a stroke,i believe when he was around 50.It happened a few months into one of his many bouts with sobriety.I guess being a stroke victim and full-blooded English isn't a good combination! 
Apologize getting off topic,that info just made me think, Big Mac abuse can be just as deadly as drug abuse,as they stated his stroke was from years of poor dieting.
Back 2 topic,i believe negative publicity can turn out to be just as beneficial though.Maybe some actual real looks will be made in the op world,and other than the few no-record op's,our pharmacies we here at DB'ers use,will,without a boubt in my mind,look 100% safe,legal,and significant to our fellow americans.
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pat4094
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Hello everyone,it's been a while since i've been on,but after reading the article about dan r.having it on his show,i didn't see it advertised,but i will watch it.Oprah had another show on moms getting adddicted to pain pills.She's really pushing it after having one not long ago and this was on last wed.Pat4094
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