wheezie
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http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/sptimes/index.html?ts=1072887511
Sorry, don't know how to do a link, might have to cut and paste.
(edit) for some reason, the link only takes you to the search and not the actual article. Run the search with the data and dates filled in, then it should be result #11 from 12/26/03 titled "New Computer Will Track Prescriptions".
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State health officials think so, too, and last year gave Medvedeff's Tampa company, Gold Standard Multimedia, the contract for a $2.5-million experiment to stop Medicaid patients from doctor shopping to get prescription narcotics.
So far, Medvedeff has passed out about 1,000 hand-held computers to doctors who treat Medicaid patients. Using the devices, doctors are just a couple of buttons away from seeing which drugs have been prescribed to Medicaid patients in the past 60 days.
Doctors can instantly see if a Medicaid patient had tried several times that week or month to get a prescription for addictive painkillers. But the devices also offer doctors access to a pharmacology database that can help them determine whether a patient is already taking a medication that would interfere with another drug the doctor wanted to prescribe. That's led to better treatment for Medicaid patients, Medvedeff said.
The program caught the eye of Gov. Jeb Bush, who toured the company and wants the state to move forward with improving the health care industry's use of technology to cut down on health care costs.
..... and how soon before Big Brother JEB! rolls this out to all FL prescriptions.
Edited by wheezie (12/31/03 08:25 AM)
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limper
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Just to add to your very last closing line..."And..the ENTIRE NATION" Please,Make NO MISTAKE folks..it will be coming very soon to one,if not all,of the so called,self annointed,self proclaimed..."proper authorities"...near you. I'd better shut up now as it is a little worrisome speaking one's mind nowadays..I feel kinda' belittled,dirty & degraded even having to say that..so sad..so sad..
That is all..
Limper the muted one..
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buey
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Yes, it's coming, but it will take awhile for the entire nation to get on board.
With all the hassles that FL is known for, why are so many OPs in FL? Why aren't they getting out of FL and opening up shop somewhere else?
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night_shade
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Let's not forget that Florida's got an unusually high percentage of senior citizens in its voting block. It will be interesting to see if this new Medicare watchdog program backfires on the very politicians who instituted it.
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limper
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YES!..It would be a nice little example of an often forgotten tidbit of life...it is called..."Poetic Justice"...Would that be toooo good or what?...I hope this is what happens all over the country as the masses ever sooo s-l-o-w-l-y begin to realize that THEY(yeah,THEM!) basicly CANNOT get treated for pain in AmeriKa...anymore..Such a sad,sad state of affairs in such a wonderful country..Politicians should be called to account for letting this happen to us and our Doctors..The day these unknowing Americans wake up to find themselves in never ending,unrelenting pain..they will soon thereafter findout that they are in big trouble in more ways than one! This my friends will be their introduction to another little tidbit called..."A Rude Awakening"..being sentenced to a life of pain for the crime of hurting in America..but they will rest well,knowing they are being "saved from themselves"..by "the proper authorities"..how comforting..
My friends, The AMA and our Doctors absolutely MUST FIND their voices in this matter and appeal DIRECTLY to The American People/Voter/Contributor..Then and ONLY THEN will the sleezy politicians correct this travesty that befalls folks in chronic pain..with Doctors being jailed for doing what they swore to do..helping hurting people. The worthless,untrustworthy,pampered at our expense,sleezy politicians understand VOTES & MONEY only!ONLY!!..Deny politicians these two things and they WILL ACT!! and damned FAST!!(So damned fast it will make everybody's head spin!) DOCTORS!..AMA!..Find your voice..appeal PUBLICLY to US..The American People and Voters,expose this to the nation,ask the nation for help..It could happen virtually overnite. PLEASE help us to help you! The American People will act if informed by their Doctors..they will..I have absolutely NO DOUBT about this being THE answer to this ongoing travesty..
Please help us to help you..silence is golden to a politician..Very Loud citizen outcry and voter unrest is a giant motivator to a "sleezball politico"..It works EVERY,every time..Only In America!!
Limper
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Whatsnew
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Limper, you are absolutely correct! The only ones that can quickly get this thing turned around are groups of Drs. telling the country the truth about what is going on. For the most part when we or the Drs. who are already in trouble for doing what they were trained to do speak out, it is largely regarded as the 'addicts' or 'drug pushers' trying to get their fix or keep their drug money coming in. If a large group of Drs. would publicly speak out surely people would take notice.
And please, never be muted or muzzled! I have appreciated your posts and opinions for almost a year now.
Keep it coming!  
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zeuzjuz
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Canada looks better every day.....
Think I am gonna start doing some net research on housing costs and jobs in Canada..... Kidding?? No, I'm serious. If I am pushed much more, in the direction of privacy loss, I am outta here.... I am starting to hate the place that I have always loved. (I am patriotic, so don't take that the wrong way anyone) - But I really am.... I am starting to feel like I live in Europe circa 1942....
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limper
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Well...Thank you so very,very much! YES!..YES!!..YES!!...it IS the way!!...It is really so simple it is almost like the age old adage of "the forest for the trees" ya' know? It is,after thinking it and the American system and what moves and shakes it over throughly..is almost childishly simple. If you would like..I have a long and much better post done today over on the VIP side..look around you'll see it or someone here might transfer it for us. I'll find it and tell you where to look as I don't know how to move it.
Our American Doctors can get the attention of the whole country if they will try..if they ask us The People..we will respond..we both will be free amazingly quickly from the ever looming threat we now ALL face for being so brazen as to be in pain or to dare be a person sworn to treat pain and suffering...this is waaaay beyond crazy..waaay beyond. I repeat..Doctors and The AMA..Please,please,please..find and USE your position of very HIGH RESPECT to right this terrible travesty. You ARE THE MOST respected people in the whole country. Politicians have none and know nothing of respect,they are so lacking in that area that they have to try to visually invent their own..they are,by and large persons of dubious repute..self-serving,trough swilling scum and pandering leeches. They hold the key to this BUT will do whatever the LOUDEST and most seen and heard and accepted group wants..In short,they WILL,without a single doubt PANDER,they are whores and your vote is their currency people..If American Doctors expose this CP/lack of treatment/criminal pursuit and jailing of Doctors for doing what Doctors do..to the unknowing American People,explain it to the people,call on the people for help,the unsavory scum populating political office in this country will not be able to PLEASE US or PANDER to US fast enough! Wanna' see a horde of trough swilling vermin scurry to please their millions of newly vocal masters?..try this plan. You will see these double talking,do nothing,self promoting,self perpetuating sleeze & graft merchants changing the laws regarding this so fast the cable news won't even be able to keep up with it! The vermin called politicians understand two things ONLY..MONEY & VOTES,when faced with the loss of either or both,get ready for action. Remember this..Vermin CANNOT stand the light of day! Shine a light into a rat's nest sometime..you'll get the picture. Motion & Action SO DAMNED fast,at such speed,your eyes can't focus on it all. I repeat an old trueism.."The American People Get What They Want"..it is simple..and it IS TRUE! DOCTORS!..AMA! YOU can make this happen,we WANT to help you,we want you to help us..we ALL want to be free from these serious criminal threats hanging over us all..Please allow us to help you make this happen! The American Pain Patient and our highly trained and highly RESPECTED Doctors can and will make this happen if we work together. In reality it is kind of funny and kind of heartening in a sick kind of way to realize that the people we have to deal with..are in fact..SO..SO very easily manipulated by such simple things as money and votes..they have no honor,they have no convictions(more on that later!),they have no scruples,hence they have NO respect,BUT..they CAN be very,very easily manipulated and we HAVE TO take advantage of their low morals. We have to NOW..USE them,instead of the other way around..get the picture..it is so very simple. Politicians simply have a price and we have the ULTIMATE currency in their world..VOTES and the threat of "remembering them"..a phrase they are scared to death of! They have a price and nothing more..nothing higher in the way of moral conviction or belief..they believe in one thing ONLY..getting re-elected to the position of public trough swiller! Public bum,grifter,liar,cheater,scam artist and maker of OUR laws..heartening thought..huh? NOW! Who will the American People listen to? Our wonderful and brilliant and gifted DOCTORS or "the aforementioned"? I know,don't you?
Read this and think,really think folks..I think you'll have to agree...IF you give it some thought and serious consideration I feel certain you will agree. I await your replies and observations. No flames please,I'm really serious and not in the mood for fliphant BS..okay,just this one time?
Limper..tuning up..and madder than hell..
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gottadoit
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I think that this thread is mistitled. The article is talking about MEDICAID patients - not MEDICARE. Medicaid is for the poor and the disabled while medicare is for the elderley.
With this "new technology" it's not the elderly they will be focusing on. Whoever wrote that Fl has a huge voting block of seniors is right - but it does not effect them unless they move this to medicare as well. Jeb Bush will not alienate his biggest support group - at least not yet. No - let's hammer the poor first! These people have a difficult enough time finding docs that will even take medicaid - let alone prescribe anything that will help them! Disgusting!
Real nice - let's start the focus on medicaid patients - let's all assume the poor and mentally/physically disabled are drug seekers and doctor shop. I'm not one to get on the "discrimination soapbox" - but this is not right. Why not have one of these gadgets for all patients under all insurance? I know that they can't do this all at once - but again I think that it's a little telling that they automatically assume that it's the poor that are the "junkies". It makes me sick.
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Whatsnew
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The obvious next step...how to get a sizable group of Drs. to do this. Any problem solvers have a good idea? You would think that it would not be hard, as it is in their best interest to escape the ever increasing control which could eventually affect their ability to practice ANY kind of medicine.
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limper
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Hey Folks,
I don't care what topic/heading or whatever it is under..I KNEW this was coming..I just WANT it discussed..the whole idea of my posts on this subject today are not exactly meant to meet strict editing/title guidelines...save that for later..I think everyone is getting the gist of my numerous posts on both boards on this subject..put it any damned where you please if you have to nit pick,suit yourself if you must..I just want you all to read it,think,think,think,..roll my ideas around in your heads and expound..opine..discuss..PLEASE!!
MEDICAID,MEDICARE..Private Care..Cash Care..CreditCard Care..the whole thing is letting our DOCTORS know that we will HELP them save us ALL if they will educate the unknowing,dumbed-down American populace...they CAN DO this..for them and ourselves..The politicos WILL act if pressured enough..that pressure will come from educating and crying out to the American People by/from our wonderful Doctors..The American People will listen to their Doctors!! Make NO mistake about that..that's all I care about..okay?
Thanks for indulging me,
Limper
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meowsie
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I don't usually post on here but on this topic I have to say something. I receive medicare in another state and it is hard enough to get a doctor to prescribe you pain medication in the first place if you are in pain and never are you prescribed enough. The fact that they can track who gave you what infuriates me. If I go to the hospital and they give me ten vicoden obviously that is not going to help me for long; so if I go to a different doctor to get more pain medication the next day it might be a problem? And someone throw me in jail if I happen to get a toothache next month and need relief for that! I know that the examples I'm giving are not exactly the description of doctor shopping they are referring to but I believe it will come to this; it is hard enough to get any doctor around here to prescribe narcotics in the first place; give them any reason not to and they will jump at it; we already get treated like addicts now, this will just make it worse; this needs to be stopped now, somehow everyone must get together and stop this; for the amount of doctor shopping addicts, it is not worth it to take away the rights and privacy of some many people who are seriously in pain and doing nothing wrong; doctors and pharmacies seem to have no problem finding the doctor shoppers now, there is no need for this kind of insulting, invasive legislation!
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gottadoit
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Limper,
I'm sorry if it seemed that I was "correcting" you about the title - that wasn't my intention. I was just infuriated that the finger gets pointed FIRST at the poor. I completely understand your point - it shouldn't be happening at all. I just know that Mr. Jeb Bush would never p-off his biggest voting block - not yet anyway. Let's just harrass those with the least resources and defenses! I completely respect your opinion on this and agree with what you have written. K?
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Caveman6666
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Quote:
I think that this thread is mistitled. The article is talking about MEDICAID patients - not MEDICARE. Medicaid is for the poor and the disabled while medicare is for the elderley.
Actually, the disabled fall under Medicare. Or at least the ones on Social Security. Not sure about stste disability.
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turcica
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This is exactly the "writing on the wall" that I make reference to in another post " same day different driver". Believe me within a matter of a very short time a nationwide system could be up and running tracking the pharmacology uses of every American citizen, and I do mean nationwide. So if your state is stricter and you go to say Delaware your prescription history will follow you. How we the generation of Baby Boomers who lived thru the 60's and 70's ever allowed this to happen I'll never know. But its coming, now we need some smart people (and I know their are some real intelectuals on this board)to advise us what we need to do as a targeted group to squash this before it gets going. I only hope its not too late and some people are brave enough to stand up for their rights. So put your thinking caps on and lets figure a way to derail this train before it reaches the station. turcica
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chantal
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I don't know I think doctors and hospitals have only one concern, how to improve their wealth. Those kind and caring doctors one sees in some of those old TV series reflecting the real doctors of that time I don't believe exist anymore today. It's all about getting rich today. Has always been, but is more pronounced today than ever I think.
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kimbell1
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Canada looks better every day.....
Think I am gonna start doing some net research on housing costs and jobs in Canada..... Kidding?? No, I'm serious. If I am pushed much more, in the direction of privacy loss, I am outta here.... I am starting to hate the place that I have always loved. (I am patriotic, so don't take that the wrong way anyone) - But I really am.... I am starting to feel like I live in Europe circa 1942....
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I have aready been seriously looking at Canada in terms of getting out od Dodge (America).
For those of you seriously interested in living in another country check out this site
escapeartist.com
There are other sites but this is the best I have found.
Of course, Bush could get defeated but even so , there is no promise things will get better. Oops, I have been accused of starting a political rant, so I had better end this post.
Have a good day, eh!
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