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Abby298
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Question About Poll on Using Multiple OP's
      #109921 - 10/24/03 02:27 PM

On the poll asking how many OP's you obtain meds from, many people use more than one. Someone a while back did a nice cross-reference on the doctors at all the OP's & many of them use the same doctors. How do you use more than one OP? Do you use one that doesn't have the same doctor at another one you use? How do you do that? If I used NWW, which other OP could I use at the same time (therotically, of course ).

Is that cross-reference showing doctors at OP's still available somewhere?

Thanks!


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leeann61897
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Re: Question About Poll on Using Multiple OP's [Re: Abby298]
      #109930 - 10/24/03 02:47 PM

In all honesty, if you go with a good OP like YOD, you really won't need to consult more than one OP. But to answer your question, yes, we cross reference doctors, at times, on this board. In the feedback section, someone, at some time, should post the Dr. they had a consult w/ and the pharmacy the meds came from....this info is used by members for cross referencing...

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potatoboy99
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Re: Question About Poll on Using Multiple OP's [Re: Abby298]
      #109931 - 10/24/03 02:49 PM

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Is that cross-reference showing doctors at OP's still available somewhere?




You mean JRoth's excellent Comprehensive US OP List (CLICK HERE FOR LINK). It shows in a spreadsheet format the OP's and their doctors and pharmacies etc, so you can easily check out who is working with who.

Unfortunately it hasn't been updated since July of this year. Things are changing too fast, I think, for an accurate update to be possible.



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Abby298
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Re: Question About Poll on Using Multiple OP's [Re: potatoboy99]
      #109937 - 10/24/03 02:57 PM

That's what I was looking for -- thanks!! I forgot where I had seen it.

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Dukey
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Re: Question About Poll on Using Multiple OP's [Re: Abby298]
      #109979 - 10/24/03 05:50 PM

Sometimes you just got to do your homework because you don’t want to be obvious

allot of times people leave hints in their post you just got to look for the inner meaning

anyways ephy's been getting good feedback lately, fast service and lowest prices around.



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Tred
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Re: Question About Poll on Using Multiple OP's [Re: Dukey]
      #110011 - 10/24/03 08:27 PM

Just to add.. It's not wise to use more than one OP. I know people do it, but recent Media news has brought a lot more attention to this subject. Your best bet is to find one OP that will fill the ammount of medication you would need. If for some reason your pain requires more than normal medication, then you should seek out a company that specializes in long-term therapy. There are a few sites that can help in this situation..(MadisonPain)..But you do have to go through an extensive background check, lots of medical records, bloodwork and physical. The whole process can take up to a month, but would be well worth it to someone that struggles with longterm pain.. My advise would be to stick with one OP for now, just for the fact that the media will jump all over any story they can in making us look like drugseekers, ect. Also another tip would be to look at all the FAQ pages on OP's websites and try to determine what pharmacy's they work with.. Good luck and stay safe.

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eelrm
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Re: Question About Poll on Using Multiple OP's [Re: Dukey]
      #110016 - 10/24/03 08:38 PM

Somebody posted that ephy is 4-5 days out for scheduling consults. What with a $45 consult fee I can see why. They were using Dr D, but who knows now. I haven't tried them, but if my already paid for aaamww script doesn't show up soon, I might have to!
Double dipping may work for some, but it's expensive enough going to one OP. Gonna have to check my lottery tickets I guess


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carlygh
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Re: Question About Poll on Using Multiple OP's [Re: potatoboy99]
      #110032 - 10/24/03 09:54 PM

Potatoboy99-
I've seen at least 4 or 5 references (could be more) you've made recently about JRoth's excellent list and how it needs to be updated. The poor guy was nice enough to compile it in the first place and your not so subtle hints that he should update it are a little out of line.

If you feel it should be updated so badly, maybe you should do it and stop hinting around to him

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digitalone



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Re: Question About Poll on Using Multiple OP's [Re: Tred]
      #110037 - 10/24/03 10:12 PM

Background checks for meds? That seems really odd. I'll have a look at their site. Why is this needed? Seems like a lot of wasted money on the OP's part to me. Interesting. Thx for the nfo.

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padmakara
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Re: Question About Poll on Using Multiple OP's [Re: digitalone]
      #110095 - 10/25/03 08:18 AM

Well, for an op that prescribes like 20 pills a day and mixes their own 20/100 hydrocodone pills, its worth their effort.

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lovepink
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Re: Question About Poll on Using Multiple OP's [Re: eelrm]
      #110118 - 10/25/03 09:48 AM

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Somebody posted that ephy is 4-5 days out for scheduling consults. What with a $45 consult fee I can see why. They were using Dr D, but who knows now. I haven't tried them, but if my already paid for aaamww script doesn't show up soon, I might have to!
Double dipping may work for some, but it's expensive enough going to one OP. Gonna have to check my lottery tickets I guess




Hi - I just wanted to add that an acquaintance of mine recently (post - Dr. D departure) tried to obtain her 2nd & last refill from ephy. She received an email asking her to call the ephy doctor to provide some more info...he said he needed her birthdate and the name & phone # of the pharmacy(ies) in her town before he would release her refill. She said she'd get back to him & asked me for advice. Just thought I'd let you all know...I'm overdue for my last refill & I'll take the loss if that info is required for the refill.

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Dukey
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Re: Question About Poll on Using Multiple OP's [Re: lovepink]
      #110153 - 10/25/03 12:19 PM

So is the pharmacy not honoring any refills on scripts from Dr D? Why would the OP want to do that to there existing customers? Its not like they don’t have requirements, you halve to send in your medical records before even looking at a price list.

Why would they want the added info of local pharmacies? To check for DD?

And if so, what Dr would possible have the time to call all those places? It’s hard enough getting them on the phone in the first place.


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potatoboy99
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Re: Question About Poll on Using Multiple OP's [Re: carlygh]
      #110160 - 10/25/03 01:10 PM

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your not so subtle hints that he should update it are a little out of line................If you feel it should be updated so badly, maybe you should do it and stop hinting around to him




Carlygh, you are absolutely right, it just seems like an impossible task the way things are changing. The situation changes week to week, and I don't think an accurate update is really possible. Every time I log on to DB something has changed, an OP has stopped taking orders, or changed doctors, or changed pharmacies for the third time that month.

I didn't realize I was mentioning it so often, I just think it's a great resource, and a lot of people don't seem to know that it even exists. I was just trying to sing its (and jroth's) praises, not criticize or find fault!

Sorry I didn't make that clear!!


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yawkaw3
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Re: Question About Poll on Using Multiple OP's [Re: lovepink]
      #110165 - 10/25/03 01:40 PM

[quote
Hi - I just wanted to add that an acquaintance of mine recently (post - Dr. D departure) tried to obtain her 2nd & last refill from ephy. She received an email asking her to call the ephy doctor to provide some more info...he said he needed her birthdate and the name & phone # of the pharmacy(ies) in her town before he would release her refill.




Do you really think they would check, lovepink? I heard they also ask what other meds you are on, where your primary care doc is located, etc. I think it's really just so the new doctor can approve the refill with a clear head...not because they plan to check up and alienate a customer. I would just tell them what they want to hear, maybe use a pharmacy you don't use for controlled drugs.

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lovepink
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Re: Question About Poll on Using Multiple OP's [Re: Dukey]
      #110166 - 10/25/03 01:43 PM

No, it seems that they are going to honor existing refills written by Dr. D...the acquaintance of whom I spoke in my last post was a patient of Dr. D and the new doctor was willing to approve the refill if she provided local pharmacy info & birthdate. I would guess that the new doctor is looking for evidence of an existing script before approval & if everything checks out she will get her refill.

I don't know about the doctor actually having time to phone these pharmacies - this is second-hand information. Maybe he is just randomly selecting customers to check up on or ephy might be cracking down to cover their butts. Dr. D was terminated from AAAMedsWW so its possible he was also terminated from ephy rather than just having quit. I've read posts about AAAMedsWW having to scramble for a new doctor and pharmacy so I would assume things were serious enough with Dr. D to have to terminate him immediately rather than being able to take the time to replace him & then fire him. If he's under some sort of investigation (just a guess but I'm going to look into it) that could explain both the records crackdown at AAA & the pharmacy info request at Ephy.

If I find out anything else I'll let you know.

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Billyl
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Re: Question About Poll on Using Multiple OP's [Re: padmakara]
      #110167 - 10/25/03 01:43 PM

No OP not even Madison provides 20/100's that would be a schedule 2. They also do not provide up to 20 pills a day. 13 is their max and 15/80 is tha maximim dose. You need very extensive recent records to qualify for that treatment plan. Take care. Billylll

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carlygh
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Re: Question About Poll on Using Multiple OP's [Re: potatoboy99]
      #110257 - 10/25/03 11:45 PM

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Carlygh, you are absolutely right, it just seems like an impossible task the way things are changing. The situation changes week to week, and I don't think an accurate update is really possible. Every time I log on to DB something has changed, an OP has stopped taking orders, or changed doctors, or changed pharmacies for the third time that month.

I didn't realize I was mentioning it so often, I just think it's a great resource, and a lot of people don't seem to know that it even exists. I was just trying to sing its (and jroth's) praises, not criticize or find fault!

Sorry I didn't make that clear!!





No worries. Thanks for clearing up your intentions, I sent you a PM regarding this. I just felt bad for the guy who had put the list together in the first place.

But you're right. At this time it would be nearly impossible to put something together until things settle. Things are changing almost daily.

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Beetlenut
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Re: Question About Poll on Using Multiple OP's [Re: Dukey]
      #110276 - 10/26/03 01:35 AM

Careful with Ephy - it's been getting bad press this past week - Dr. Dom left and some people feel they have not hired a new doc yet and are just being strung along...

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fluttergirl
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Re: Question About Poll on Using Multiple OP's [Re: Beetlenut]
      #110371 - 10/26/03 12:10 PM

I searched hard and long before choosing an op. I picked Ephy because of their reputation and they offered COD without having to send a money order before the consult. Now I'm reading that there are problems. My first refill is due next week. Should I try to get the refill or just find another op? I haven't been around long but I do trust the opinion of the vets.

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Dukey
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Re: Question About Poll on Using Multiple OP's [Re: fluttergirl]
      #110406 - 10/26/03 02:12 PM

I would try to get the refill. No one has posted info about problems obtaining a refill. Just not accepting new consults.

But when you contact them for the refill please let us know the status.


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