tiredbones
Journeyman
Reged: 06/23/03
Posts: 59
Loc: SF county
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You hit on a lively one prettyday. I have often been confused about discretion etiquette on DB. This is a forum which inherently exists due to the "sensitive" subject nature. What one should or should not talk about can get tricky.
Even if we devised guidelines about pming, someone could always enter and disturb the system, gather info about whatever pharm., and create a problem if they really wanted to.
You've said what many of us have been thinking. I don't know. There might be a way to "tightin security". Keep on brainstorming prettyday, and thanks for bringing this up.
Best regards to all,
tiredbones
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toe
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 10/09/02
Posts: 1428
Loc: MidWest USA
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Be careful, it's dumb out there.
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Oh yes, it is dumb out there. Bring an umbrella and wear clean underwear, because the barometer is rising and we have a front of exceptionally "educational" public posts statistically guaranteed to lead to an early winter for many of our pharmacies and, likely, an El Nino year for the USOP mentioned or indicated a few times above.
Along with the PM's that treat the recipient like an FAQ ( a barrage of questions with nary a P nor Q to soften them), less rude but more amusing are the posts that include only one vague question. "How much does it cost?" "Where are they located?" with no indication of what "it" is or who "they" are.
With the exception of shills, I respond in some way, shape or form to almost every PM I get. Even if I am just reminding a poster of the search function, or (in the case above) apologizing for having no clue as to what they are talking about. Although there are a few I PM with regularly, and the PMs devolve into something like two teenageers trying to get the other to hang up first:
PM: Thanksm you're the best.
PM: No really, you're the best. Your support has been great.
PM: Thanks again and PM anytime.
PM. No, thank you
PM: TTFN. . .I've got to get read y to head out.
PM: Me. too. Good luck with the doc.
PM:You too. Keep me updated.
PM: Will do. Bye.
PM: Bye. . .. .
PM: Are you still there?
PM: Yup, you?
PM: You're going to be late to the doc.
PM: I'm getting ready to go. I'm about to shut down the computer. Are you still hre?
PM: Yeah.
That's a little bit of an exeggeration, but when a pal and I are on at the same time we easily PM back and forth 4 or 5 times in one browser session. Of course, the conversations are not that mundane.
I also seem to get a lot of PMs from posting school--I don't blame these folks, because they don't yet have the privilege of posting publically. And its not as if no full member has ever posted an "el nino" question, like "what state is internetmeds.com located in?" or "what's the number for "Meds R US" pharmacy?" Many of the posting school posts I get are from folks who are obviously taking time to learn to the board, those who mention that they have read my posts and want information that is, admittedly, harder to find, such as med prices. I don't begrudge any of them that. And I love seeing posts from the members I know well. Not because they contain top secret information, but because they almost inevitably contain warm support and suggestions, a giggle, or a hug. There are a few folks on this board with whom the relationship has been taken to e-mail, because the conversations veer from DB-typical nature into long exchanges that are easier to follow ina bigger message box.
For some reason, my PM box morphed into the box of the USOP veteran for awhile. The posts were addressed to me, but always upened with "I know you know a lot about USOPs." That;s just plain silly, as I have only had 2 consults and 2 real relationships with OPs. I've researched many of them and talked with their staff, but that's something anybody can do. If you can type, you can do that legwork yourself. I did it to find the best OP for ME. . . and that's not going to help anybody but me.
You sure are right, labdoc. Its [i[sleeting dumb out there. We have notify mod button for posts, how about an ejector button for stupid pms?
Post script: I'd be lying if I didn't fess up to being less candid on the VIP side. I still don't, for instance, posting the blobal express tracking reocrd of my dealings, but I am more prone to share nits about how I manage to get along with certain IOPs better/ This is purely strategic. VIP is a smaller board and generally populated with folks who have more OP experience. Exposing some of my tips and secrets to the Freeboard puts my favorite OPs at the mercy of folks who post "What is the url?" in a topic titled "destinyrx.com.
Postpostscript- Thanks, Prettyday. I've missed the opportunity to get really ticked off and insulted otfay. But you've done it for me, and hit one of the tio 5 on my verbak hit list (banks). I switched to a federal credit union 2000 miles from home and have never looked back, even though it does take me a few extra days to make deposits. The only problem is that my CC and auro insurance are trhough the same union. Peter and Paul are conjoined twins, so I can't rob one to pay the other. Oopd.
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toky20
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 03/17/02
Posts: 1347
Loc: Windy Place
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The posts were addressed to me, but always upened with "I know you know a lot about USOPs.
LOL Toe, I know what you mean. I also welcome PMs from new members; usually they are kind and considerate and just looking for info, but when they start with "you have a lot of posts so I figure you know everything...", I just sit and think, 'no, actually very little about OPs in general. but I do know why people need help and I'll support you if I can'.
But that line never fails to crack me up.
PrettyDay, this has been one of the longest-running, informative threads I've seen in a long time. Thank you for bringing it up. Personal issues should remain personal, and I have made mistakes in posting in the past that I regret. Fortunately, there is a lot of support and understanding here and I also thank you for starting this thread.
Toky 
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qbird
material girl
Reged: 09/02/02
Posts: 841
Loc: USA
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I agree Toky, I think any one of us that have posted here and pmed each other have made several blunders. Oh well, live and learn! 
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Billyl
Board Addict
Reged: 06/14/02
Posts: 389
Loc: NorthEast
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My whole life I have always been the guy that calls a spade a spade. I try not to read to much into other's post's. I am gifted with a high IQ and photo memory. I try to write objectively. My posting style seems to get me in trouble on the board often. I am the kind of person that has little ground between loving and hating me. For those I have offended I am sorry, for those that know me I am factual which makes others think I am condescending and a know it all, I assure you I am neither. Take care. Billylll
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prettyday
Threadhead
Reged: 02/09/03
Posts: 941
Loc: Coastal Sage Scrub
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I want to thank you all for keeping this going. I long to PM more, but the house is looking um, well never mind.
I don't know if this should be a new thread, but we are all already visiting this one.
Do you know it will cost over $11 million dollars to send out the ballot explanations in CA. That's a lot of afterschool programs, and elderly in house nursing. But they're willing to spend the money.
So I'M willing to hijack the publicity.
How can we put up a web site that records hits of how many people would support a candidate that bucked the pharma/DEA system and supported chronic pain patients?
Is there a way we could get everyone across the US to "vote" within a one hour period so the Powers that BE could get some sense we are mobilizing without US losing our ANONYMITY.
Right now, all the articles in Self and Jane and News Shows are being suggested by certain interests--the same ones that take up the glossy pages opposite the articles.
Have you ever tried to track down a corporation that was doing something unethical in your town? They live, and die, by obfusticating exactly who is behind what.
Hey, it works for them, why not for us?
We know the media will cover the recall; it is impossible for them not to cover this 'flash mob vote'
It is just too much of a sound bite to ignore.
What do you all think?
How hard would it be to get a site up that looked professional and garnered serious attention?
What is the best way of awakening candidates to the trememdous voting bloc that is...us.
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Billyl
Board Addict
Reged: 06/14/02
Posts: 389
Loc: NorthEast
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Well first we need a focus group. Then a controlled poll.
Perhaps an actor that is popular to further our cause. Maybe a few James Carvil type charactures to hit the media circuit. Hey wait a minute I am starting to sound like a politician! LOL.
Take care. Billylll
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prettyday
Threadhead
Reged: 02/09/03
Posts: 941
Loc: Coastal Sage Scrub
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Bump.
Let's pick a candidate and lets be realistic, one who could win- why don't we try to get to Arnold through Christopher Reeve? That is not meant to be cynical, Mr. Reeve is really trying to help Intractable Pain patients.
Let's all send him one dollar with a good sound bite slogan on it. I can see mailbags and bags and bags
Surely there are some math whizzes on here--how much taxes could we be paying if we could work instead of running around looking for help all day?
What if some jobs that we could do were kept in the US?
Jump in, jump in.
No idea is a bad one.
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First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
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Edited by prettyday (08/31/03 03:38 PM)
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prettyday
Threadhead
Reged: 02/09/03
Posts: 941
Loc: Coastal Sage Scrub
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That is a great idea, Billy! I don't know where to go from here, but you have a great start!
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First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
- Mahatma Gandhi
Edited by prettyday (08/31/03 03:41 PM)
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toky20
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 03/17/02
Posts: 1347
Loc: Windy Place
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I am the kind of person that has little ground between loving and hating me.
I can't imagine hating you, Billy! But then again, I've known you a long time by now and know that you live the truth as do I. I know you never intentionally set out to hurt anyone. Oh, save for that one short and sweet PM you sent to a rude person that one time And he had it coming 
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Billyl
Board Addict
Reged: 06/14/02
Posts: 389
Loc: NorthEast
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Yes I remember that PM it was nice of the person to copy and paste to the board. We all make mistakes, I have my share. Take care. Billylll
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zorg
Veteran
Reged: 04/29/02
Posts: 559
Loc: Midwest
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I'd appreciate if you'd stop sending hateful daily PM's to me as well BillyIII. Jeez.
Just kidding 
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Sky_Queen
Fly Girl
Reged: 12/03/02
Posts: 1967
Loc: Texas
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Oh this is great stuff Prettyday!!! I love this idea. Maybe an online petition as well? Christopher Reeve is an excellent idea. Hmmmm....let's keep this one going folks - the more ideas the better.
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DrugBuyers
Administrator
Reged: 11/18/01
Posts: 1234
Loc: DrugBuyers.Com
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This is an interesting thread  .
You have to help others as much as you would like to be helped . You have to remember that not all members are experts. Buying meds online can be very confusing...
PM's are Private Messages and there is no need to discuss what should be said in a private message.
We suggest PM's are used for private stuff and things not related to buying meds online. Everything that has to do with buying prescription drugs should be posted... but it must be posted in the proper forum :-)
Since our site is mostly about sharing experiences with other members we simply can not tell members what can, or can not, be posted. What we do is tell members that our site is about buying prescription drugs the legal way.
We have a few rules and one of them is not to post about activities that are against the law. It is not only a rule: it is the law!
We simply can not, and will not, tell members to hide some information nor can we edit info that may, or may not, hurt an OP.
What we suggest, for privacy, is to post in the proper forums and not to post any personal information that may identify, or incriminate, you in any way.
In the forum "Who offers..." you can post you is offering a med and for how much it is being offered. There is no need to mention that you ordered or are planning to order...
On the forum for ordering experiences you should post your experience with as much, or as little detail, as you wish. There is not need to disclose what you order, how, or how much. That is really a private thing... there are laws protecting your privacy but if you want to go public: respect the privacy of others (the privacy of doctors for example).
In some countries it is legal to order certain medications and in others it is not legal. In some countries a prescription is needed and in others it is not needed...
But this is an information forum and we are here to learn as much as we can.
Remember that we are not making things happen, we are just taking about the way thing are :-)
We will ban all members that admit to activities against the law, we will ban members that post about recreational drugs, and we will ban members whose posts crealy indicate they are seeking information on how to break the law.
Members have to understand that there are laws and that laws need to be respected. Buying meds online is legal, buying guns is legal... but you can not go to a gun shop and expect to be sold a gun if you ask the salesman which is the best weapon to kill you parents...
The best way for OP's, and for us, to stay in business is to respect the laws and not to protect those that break it...
Most OP's go by the book and it is those OP's that need to be protected.
Also note that all information posted on this board, like the info in the profiles, may be fictional :-)
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Please do not PM me about non working or lost usernames and passwords.
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arik
Newbie
Reged: 09/05/03
Posts: 38
Loc: Washington, DC
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I'm still new, too -- both free and VIP board. I actually find the "free" board more active in terms interactive posts.
But I'm not sure I understand what is being said here. Of course, I don't think there's any reason to be rude or respond in mean spirit to anyone here. We are all here for the same reason and we need each other. But isn't that what this board is for? To trade info? Why keep it PMs? If an OP does not require records, it says so on the website. So why shouldn't that be repeated in a post. That's what I thought this board was for. To find out who has what, how fast they provide it, and what they require in order to provide it -- whatever the substance is.
Naturally everyone here is going to say they are in legitimate pain. But I seriously doubt that this forum is devoid of drug seekers. Which, by the way, is exactly what we are doing. Seeking drugs. Legitimate or otherwise.
I'm not being critical. I hate it when I've seen some of the nasty and rude responses here. I just don't understand why specific info on OPs/IOPs should be limited to PMs? Am I reading this wrong?
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