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painback, I can empathize with you completely....I am on 80 mgs OC twice a day w/percocet 10/325's for BTP but I DO have a spinal cord stimulator & it helps alot. you might want to check into it....they will do a trial for about a week where it's externalized, if it doesn't help then they remove it & your no worse off than before, but if it does help they will internalize it & you may find like me it helps along with the meds. pm me if you want more info.