shawn_232
Newbie
Reged: 06/07/02
Posts: 44
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You know I got to say something here, lately I have ben a little stand offish about posteing anything on this forum. It seems to me like if you do poste something about your' personal experience some one is always there to critisize. For instence if I poste about my experience on moore than one Op there is always some one who will poste someting to the effect of, you shouldnt be useing moore than one OP. Or O you are a " DRUG SEEKER" or some other nonscence like that.
These people have no idea when I used this particular OP or if I eaven still use them. But that is beside the point, the bottom line is IT IS NONE OF THERE BUSINESS !!! And god forbide you poste about haveing a bad experience and want to vent a little, people will crawl out of the wood work to tell you you have anger issues, or that you shouldnt use OPs if you are in that much pain. I dont understand why do some people half to try an fource there way of thinking on others?
I am not saying I think I am right all the time, the opposite is typical of me. But I will never tell some one the way they choose to treat there pain is wrong. And I dont think any of you have the right to either. I appologize in advance to all the people this pisses off. 
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LumbarSpasm
Silent Chaos
Reged: 05/07/02
Posts: 1539
Loc: USA
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Shawn,
First let me say hello!
Second let me say this...when you post on a board, forum, or community (whatever you want to call it) you have to be prepared to get responses. Try not to take things too personally or you'll become bitter and feel like sheet.
I've had my share of "love" notes, LOL, and yes sometimes it bothers me. I decided that I'd consider the source. If it was someone whom I respected I'd take a look at the comment and see if there was validity to it and why it bothered me.
Occasionally I'll PM someone to clear up confusion.
As for the other folks and their subtle and sometimes not so subtle jabs...well you know what they say, every has an opinion. Just let it roll off your back and don't think twice about it.  That's how I deal with it. Sometimes I try to stay away for awhile but really that solves nothing and it allows the bully to well bully.
Just be true to yourself, post what you feel is important and worth sharing and to heck with anyone who disagrees. They don't know you or your circumstances.
It's funny what people will presume with limited facts.
I'm guilty of it myself at times. 
Take care
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LumbarSpasm
Or just a pain in the butt?!
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Dharma
Peacekeeper
Reged: 07/16/02
Posts: 61
Loc: Planet Earth
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To escape criticism:
Do nothing
Say nothing
Be nothing
Don't let your spirit be broken by someone you don't even know. Keep a sense of humor--sometimes that is all we have. I hope you feel better.
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My religion is truth, My practice is non-cooperation with evil.
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planielsen
Member
Reged: 01/14/02
Posts: 194
Loc: Midwest
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Hey LumbarSpasm~
I couldn't have said it better myself--what a perfect response!
(Although I must add, yours usually are).
p
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krocus36
Member
Reged: 03/26/02
Posts: 124
Loc: Washington State
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shawn, Please do not be intemitaded by what people post. We all need the input good or bad. Most of us are in the same boat as you which we should not have to put up with. This is a board which 1000's of people reading and of course there are going to be those that the only way they can even post is to critisise or judge you as they see fit. We all have to go through it unfortunetly. Just remember that most the people that do read the posts are trying to find out info. The ones that do post in a negitive way, we read those post and think what a jerk or this guy doesn't know what he is talking about or what a cranky a**. Atleast that is the way I see them and I am sure most of the DBers feel the same way. Anyway keep posting and don't let the negitive get you to where you are hesitant to post we all need the imput. Remember that this is a pain board and people are in pain and it gets to the best of us.
Kroucus
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basenji
Journeyman
Reged: 04/26/02
Posts: 78
Loc: Washington state
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Shawn (and everyone else),
I was so glad to see that I'm not the only one who has been feeling this way. I have been trying to find a different board because this one has seemed so negative lately. Don't get me wrong, I've met some very wonderful and helpful people along the way, but for the most part, no one seems to wants to answer questions, they just want to criticize whatever the problem is. I've asked so many questions and I feel either invisible or, in some cases, have been offended by others' responses. We are all here for the same reason, and I, for one, just want to be able to help anyone that I can and I just expect to be respected for my imput or questions.
I hope I haven't offended anyone with this; but I am glad to get it off my chest and again, I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt this way. Hope you all have a great weekend!
basenji
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pismopete
Newbie
Reged: 04/20/02
Posts: 41
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I second the motion to read the board before asking questions. I have read this board for almost a year, I was new to using OPs when I started, and have never had to ask a single question, because I've found all the information I've needed in the threads, to the point that I've been able to answer simple questions others have asked, which I see as sort of "doing my part" I guess, it's just something that goes with the territory.
pismopete
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TdocSux
Journeyman
Reged: 06/04/02
Posts: 75
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Shawn:
I can tell you that the ones that spout off that sort of dribble are usually the ones that don't amount to a hill of beans here or anywhere for that matter. It's easy to get into a war of words and quite frankly sometimes it feels good to let it out but the ned result is, that person(s) are worthless and will still be worthless no matter what happens.
TD 
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Dragonfly
Stranger
Reged: 01/26/02
Posts: 14
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I truley sympathize with you and condemm the judgemental uniformed who replied to your messages either because they don't understand them, they are busybodies without anything to do but look for fault, or insecure people who have been wrong themselves so many times that they jump on any opportunity to trash somebody else.
In a country where we we MUST allow free exchange of ideas it is criticle to allow morons to state their opinions regradless of the ridiculas nature of their comments.
I support anybodys right to make any post they wish even though I may not agreee with it.
I equally support positive and intellegent posts that actually help people.
However, we cannot have any kind censorship, and free speech MUST be permitted regardless of how much we despise the comments and opinions of rude, uniformed and often moronic people.
You are also free to resond to the negative emails and ask them what they meant by their comments, that the comments sound idiotic to you and many others.
You may view THEIR personal posts, maybe they order medications that would be embarrasing to them. Respond to their posts such as: why do you order so many weight loss drugs? is your spouse ready to leave you becasue of your extreme obesity, or is it that you have to pay for two airline tickets because you cannot fit into one seat, OR I realize the price of Viragra varies between different op's and I sympathize for your wife.
It would be YOUR RIGHT to make any of these statements, just as it is their right to criticize you!
This is my opinion on how you could handle these type of people.
I gain alot of valuable information from peronal postings and if it does not apply to me I simply ignore it. It is too bad there are few bad apples on the ezborad barrel of free speech.
Edited by Dragonfly (07/21/02 06:51 AM)
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LuckyDee
Member
Reged: 02/05/02
Posts: 121
Loc: Georgia
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I agree with Shawn_232. I started a thread a while back and got so much hostility thrown at me that I wrote drugbuyers, and asked them to please remove the thread, that I temporarily was in error about an OP. Even drugbuyers PM'd me and was nasty, stating that they couldn't remove a thread by a "nobody". I told them that I was also a member of the "paid" board, (the VIP board) and told them also that I thought their response to me was unfounded. So I do understand why some people don't submit responses because there are those out there just waiting to jump on anyone and anything that they deem appropriate, instead of privately e-mailing them to discuss the matter at hand. .........Lucky
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Dragonfly
Stranger
Reged: 01/26/02
Posts: 14
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If anyone contacts DB and goes to the extent of making a statement that you may be a drug seeker WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE should be automatically banned the board. This crosses the line from free verbal exchanges to libel, and technically they could be sued if you wanted pursue it. You may wish to contact them and inform them that they commited libel by their statement of opinion (not of fact) to DB that you were a drug seeeker. and that their statement could have easily ruined your reputation with DB as well as any ops. What they did is clearly a reckless disregard of the truth.
Edited by Dragonfly (07/21/02 07:42 AM)
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freeman25
Newbie
Reged: 07/19/02
Posts: 27
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Hey Shawn,
With all due respect, I gave you a very hard time once simply because I didn't believe you. At the time you had left hospital AMA and I found that hard to believe since you were there to obtain medical help.
I appologized for it and I meant it. I used to be Felix 2 on this board until DB booted me for the 4th time! They felt that I was "Too Involved". Now that's criticism. So then they invited me back under a different name and here I am starting all over.
But, I took my fair share of crap from others and let it all roll off of my back. It was just a matter of being truthful with myself before I poste, which I was.
Take Care
Freeman (Felix)
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showme
Newbie
Reged: 06/09/02
Posts: 33
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No one, no matter what they say or do is ever "worthless"
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LumbarSpasm
Silent Chaos
Reged: 05/07/02
Posts: 1539
Loc: USA
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Felix,
You're like the Energizer Bunny, you keep going and going and going.  I actually respect the fact that you are upfront about your identity. You've got tenacity...and then some.
I may not agree with you all the time but like I said, I do respect the fact that you are upfront!
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Or just a pain in the butt?!
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Optimist4Now
Veteran
Reged: 06/01/02
Posts: 514
Loc: USA
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Tenacity wasn't the first thing that came to mind when you said, "You've got . . . . "
But, felix, felix1,2,3 and freeman25 do keep going and going and going. Regardless of what happens, what someone may post about him or if DB kicks his little bunny butt off the board, he always comes back and he's always nice to everyone.
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freeman25
Newbie
Reged: 07/19/02
Posts: 27
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Lumbar and Optimist,
Two words...Thank You.
I respect both of your opinions and that's what the Constitution was intended for when they spoke of "Freedom of Speach." We all don't have to agree, but being able to have an opinion is awesome.
Shawn, EVERYONES opinions and beliefs count.
Freeman 
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"If your not living on edge your taking up too much space"
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typeonegative
Newbie
Reged: 07/14/02
Posts: 41
Loc: Heart of Dixie
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I'm wondering how someone can be 'too involved'? Keep on keeping on, freeman. And congrats on your baby. Change any diapers lately?
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Administrator
Administrator
Reged: 11/19/01
Posts: 1615
Loc: DrugBuyers.Com
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We are very sorry this happens.
If someone is bothering you please notify the moderator.
We have board rules, forum descriptions, and moderators.
We do not welcome "non official or self appointed moderators"
We ask members to post about online pharmacies and not about other members.
We do not ask members why they use meds or online phamacies and we do not want to know.
Our board is to discuss sources and not board members.
Our site is not to discuss the posting styles of other members.
There is an icon under every post to notify the moderator... when you see a post that it not "proper" just notify the moderator...
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Laurie
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Reged: 02/04/02
Posts: 117
Loc: Central-Midwest
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Well put by everyone here concerning this matter, I've been lucky so far and have not had anyone judge, jump to conclusions or been down right nasty to me so far, and I know I have asked alot of questions, even dumb questions that I could not find answers to just by reading the posts, but I have seen others that have had been ran through the ringer for asking a question or stating their opinion. No one here really has all the answers or knowledge for every question or statement made here, only that which applies to their own personal life and experiences. My point being that one persons experience, all though simuilar to another's experience is not exactly the same. Hopefully the majority of us here realize that and can just help each other without judging each other. Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone or should that be , judge not, lest you be judged yourself. Either way, they are both good words to live by. Lord knows I'm not perfect, but then again, who is?????..................Laurie
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TdocSux
Journeyman
Reged: 06/04/02
Posts: 75
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Yea, that's a good one. Worthless are those who contribute nothing to society nor do they try to make this a better place which is something we should all do. You don't have to volunteer or help the poor or elderly. Just being kind or being there for someone is good enough in my book.
So yes, no matter what, there are many worthless people in this world.
TD
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imnewatthis
Member
Reged: 03/08/02
Posts: 119
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i know its irrelevent but laurie i just love your graphics
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imnewatthis
Member
Reged: 03/08/02
Posts: 119
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shawn,dont let it bother you;if you think about it does a rude and judgemental comment make your pain any more or less,does a nice comment make your pain any more or less.as far as being a drugseeker;arent we all here for info on obtaining prescription meds?whoever told that to DB must be somewhat of a hypocrite wheather he was ordering ultram or morphine it doesnt matter i dont feel anyone should judge anyones physical condition or medication requirements.as far as freedom of speech,well i dont think that applies 100% here,this is sort of a "club" isnt it with rules that come with membership?i dont think anyone has the "right" to judge anyones choice of meds,strengths,or quantities(although even i have been guilty of "suggestting" alternative meds ive learned a LITTLE since then)only to post info on OPs to HELP each other.good luck with your pain management.
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toky20
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 03/17/02
Posts: 1347
Loc: Windy Place
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Just my feelings on this thread, expressed in a quote by Max Born, physicist:
"The belief that there is only one truth and that oneself is in possession of it seems to me the deepest root of all the evil that is in the world."
My thanks to all who allow each of us to state our factual experiences and our opinions of such. My apologies to all I may have "judged" without knowing the facts.
Take Care,
Toky
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ImodiumAD
Member
Reged: 06/26/02
Posts: 168
Loc: Calif, Bakersfield
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Quote:
To escape criticism:
Do nothing
Say nothing
Be nothing
Don't let your spirit be broken by someone you don't even know. Keep a sense of humor--sometimes that is all we have. I hope you feel better.
Then you tend to get critisized for doing nothing and saying nothing... I have experience with this..
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toky20
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 03/17/02
Posts: 1347
Loc: Windy Place
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me too...ya just can't please em all....
toky
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Jeremiah
Agape GrandParent
Reged: 07/14/02
Posts: 788
Loc: U.S.A.
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Wow! I cant believe someone pm'd you with ifo like that. Guess we just have to overlook others and try to do the best we can. We all have bad days,but I find on the bad days it's best not to post.LOL! Hope you stick around Shawn and not let anyone deprive you of the info you need.
J.
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