caseysjane
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I am over 55 and thank you for starting this thread. I totally relate to not wanting to sleep at night, mouth dried up, etc. My generation was perhaps a little naive. I remember when 30 was ancient. My girlfriends and I had a pact to commit harikari if we made it to 30 because we wanted to live hard and die young. Little did we know that we would not marry or have kids, that our parents and close family would die before we were 40 and that we would develop chronic, debilitating illness in our 40's. Heck we thought the ERA would be passed by now and everyone would have free health coverage!!! Very few people even know what the ERA was or is. I am not going to get into politics, but a very important election is coming up .....
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Chef40
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While I am not 55 or over, I can relate to the
painful existence that some people have lived.
If anyone would have told me when I was 21 that I would contract a deadly form of Cancer, and I would have to battle the disease for 4+ years, I would have laughed.
No one should have to endure severe pain of any kind at any age. I truly sympathize with the younger db'ers out there,
and I truly hope you all find relief from the pain you are now suffering.
We all can help one another, young and old, and can benefit from each others experiences.
I learn alot from this site everyday, posted from the experience of young and old.
Thanks for listening,
Chef
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pecan
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Daeshay, You are not missing anything, Barett just wanted to have this thread so that everyone that has chronic pain could post here and discuss anything they felt. She just didn't want the junkies and people like that to be on here to disrupt the idea. But there are some that don't see it that way, and more or less wanted to turn it into an "Older than 50" group ONLY. But that isn't what she meant, she meant things about pain and getting the care we need and things like that. She is just tired, as am I, of seeing things like, IV drug use discussed, and talk about using drugs just to get high. A person getting all pissy and throwing a fit and saying they quit obviously doesn't understand why it was started. People of all ages that have legitimate pain, or know of ones that do and that can help us should be here. JUST NOT the JUNKIES............. 
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Eeyore27
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I'm not over 55 but my dad is. He is going through the same dilemma of Vioxx being removed from the market. What are the alternatives?
You might want to tell him to ask his doctor about a pain med called Mobic. It's primarily used in osteoarthritis, but it's been prescribed as an all purpose antiarthritic drug in general.
Since Vioxx has been taken off the market, the doctor that 2 of my sisters work for has been pretty busy writing out scripts for it. His practice started out being a Geriatric office, but he now treats all ages. He mostly caters to the Seniors group, though, since they were his patients from day one.
A lot of his patients have responded quite well to it, from what my one sister has told me. She said that one patient said that she feels as if it works better than Vioxx for her pain, and she has advanced stage arthritis. They've got a few patients who had gripes about the adjustment period from coming off Vioxx and starting on Mobic, but for the most part, there hasn't been too many complaints about it yet. He's heard more positive feedback about it than negative, from what she says.
It's only been a few days since Vioxx was pulled off the market, so his office is in a frenzy right now with patients making emergency appointments about getting alternatives to Vioxx. Some patients are asking for Celebrex, but for the ones who are willing to try Mobic, he's been dispensing samples and writing out prescriptions for his patients that are willing to try it.
I don't know much about the chemical makeup of the drug, itself, only what my sis has been telling me about how busy the office has been this week and that Mobic was one of the alternative medications that her boss has been prescribing. It might be worth it for him to ask his doc about it. Hope this helped!!
Take care & good luck,
Eeyore
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singlesu
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Hey, I'm here Limper, and didn't realize you were amongst us AARP folks. I guess it takes age and experience to understand respect.
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pecan
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I really didn't mean it in a disrespectul way, I meant that I think that Barett meant All the people young And old should be here if they are in our situation of being in pain and having barely any care if any at all. But a person saying that they won't play no more because there are young ones here isn't helping anything. They need to stay and put their expeiriences here too, along with _everyone_ else. Sorry......
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timetogo
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Hey all...this fighting about who's pain is worse is silly. All pain is horrible, but the title of the thread is "Are there any people here over 55?" That IS the title of the thread, nothing more, nothing less. Obviously interpretations of this have varied widely, but it is really pretty simple. I believe that any who want to post should feel free to do so, but like we try to do with other threads, we should try to stick with the actual topic. Those who left...come back...those who have something to say...post away, but, please, no more arguing. I thought this was a fantastic thread Barett started when I first saw it last night.
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limper
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Thank you!!...I really didn't think it was too hard for everyone to grasp or kinda' just go along with..I asked the members as best I could..you have done better..nice post..
Limper
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akia1
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Hi,
there are a LOT of us ol' farts on here.
lots of aches and pains.... some caused by stupid stuff we did while younger... doc won't write a decent adequate script... and/or no insurance... but we know that a grain of codeine or 10mg of valium will stop the pain or let us sleep (we vaguely remember the 60s/70s) so we order from an iop.
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akia1
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Quote:
I'm not over 55 but my dad is. He is going through the same dilemma of Vioxx being removed from the market. What are the alternatives?
celebrex for one
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timetogo
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Welcome back, Limper! Actually, I think it is pretty cool that younger people have enough interest to even click on a topic like this. When I was young, I would have had very little interest in the problems of older people. I was a selfish little thing! The fact that people of all age groups jumped into this thread demonstrates our commonality a lot more than our differences.
Timetogo
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Lablady2
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I hear u - 55 here - and can remember when I thought 30 was ancient - now I won't even tell age of son - because soon he will be older than I am:)
Females - younger ones have no idea how it used to be out there before abortion was legal - how you could not get credit card if u were married without giving all the info re your husband - and on and on. We've come a long way - but have miles and miles to go before we sleep..........
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ikestormu11
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I'm not 55 but I hope to be someday.
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pecan
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What Is "Mobic"? My husband was taking Celebrex, but We stopped it because of the Vioxx thing. I looked up celebrex, and it looks exacly like the same kind of med, and from what I have heard, they quit selling it also, Does the Mobic really help with arthritis? What Kind of drug is it???
I can remember when women couldn't get credit cards and things like that. I Also remember when a diaper was flannel, not plastic and paper. I don't know what the young ones would do if they had no pampers, and had to rinse diapers out in the toilet. And stinky Diaper pails. WHEWWWWW! Now it seems so gross, but it was a normal thing to do then. I remember when I had my baby shower when I was pregnant with my son, and the gifts I got. I got P.J.s' and blankets and bottles and powder and stuff. But the best present I got was fom My Mother in law....It was a dozen Home made flannel diapers. Boardered with green, cause at that time, you didn't have the option of going to the Dr. and finding out what sex your baby was going to be. You just bought a bunch of greens and yellows and stuff that would work for both sexes.....God that seems ancient Huh??? LOL, But it was only 36 years ago. 
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Tranquileyez
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Hi Pecan,
How is your weekend going? Well I found this site for Mobic. I hope maybe it will help to answer some of your questions (ps, I still have no order from Joseph!)
The link for Mobic is: http://www.fda.gov/cder/consumerinfo/druginfo/mobic.htm
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barett
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This is not an acceptable risk to me:
"If you have asthma, you may have aspirin-sensitive asthma. If an aspirin-sensitive asthmatic takes aspirin it can cause severe narrowing of the airway (bronchospasm), and even death."
This happened to me while driving/so please know that Mobic is not without risks.
This is not an acceptable risk to me either:
"Serious problems from stomach ulcers such as bleeding are recognized complications in people treated with NSAIDs. Similar problems have occurred in people treated with Mobic. The likelihood of stomach problems increases the longer you take drugs like Mobic. However, even short-term treatment is not without risk."
Been there and done that. Mobic is hopeless for me.
Barett
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pecan
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I hope you will be patient with Joeseph. I'm sure yopu will get the order....I don't know if there will be mail on monday, (columbus day), but I doubt it. Thanks for the site on Mobic, I will read it now......
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want2bcalm
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I'm not 55 but I feel like I'm 95 somedays
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pecan
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OH GEEZZZZ. Is there anything else that would help, Barett? BTW Cool Fish!!
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barett
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I don't know ANY arthritis medicine that will work for me. NONE. Oh they work, but eventually they would kill me.
Not OK. I say - get a treatment that doesn't kill ya!
And why isn't there a care for cancer yet? Haven't they been working on it long enough? God...we need help!
I liked the fish too - I thought the animation was pretty good.
Barett
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pecan
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I Know this is a silly thing to think...and I will probably have a lot of people yelling at me, but...I think they know what will cure Some types of cancer, but they don't want anyone to know about it, because the medical proffession and the research places would lose to much money if people got well. That is what I have thought for many years......So don't tear me up TOO bad you guys. I am just stating my opinion.....HELP...............
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Edited by pecan (10/10/04 12:07 PM)
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poco
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Hi,
I don't fit the 55 and over(I'm 40), but I wanted to say Bextra has been a life saver for my mom who is 68.
I believe it is in the same class of drugs as Vioxx. It has less side effects; stomach distress etc...
My Mom had taken this for a few months and decided to just stop taking it.
A week later she couldn't walk without me holding her up.
She has horrible compression fractures in her spine, arthritis in her knees and neck, healing from a broken sternum, spinal stenosis, and now plantar fasciatis(sp?)...
She has a bad heart, had rhuematic fever and severe bouts of pnuemonia... I do understand the heartbreak of aging, my heart and soul cries for her and her pain... My pain doesn't even compare, and I'm selfish when feeling sorry for myself...
She started on the Bextra again with lots of urging and is doing a bit better.
I certainly don't mean to imply Bextra is the only thing that gets her through her day. She is on pain meds too, but Bextra has helped with the arthritis pain.
Mom is a true stoic New England woman or is it a "generation thing" who believes pain meds are evil and doesn't "want to get addicted". I fight with her constantly to take the prescribed amounts of Oxy and break thru meds. Anyway.. I digress...
Thanks for letting me add my bit of info... ask about Bextra. And good luck to all.... Poco
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cbow549
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Dear barrett,there are a lot of us out here,with the same or worse problems.all we can do is the best we can do!Getting a little older sure beats the dickens out of the alternative,don't you think?chuck47  
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