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Paxil - Paroxetine
Paroxetine HCl is an orally administered antidepressant with a chemical structure unrelated to other selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors or to tricyclic, tetracyclic or other available antidepressant agents. It is the hydrochloride salt of a phenylpiperidine compound identified chemically as (Immediate-Release Tablets and Oral Suspension:) (-)-trans-4R-(4'-fluorophenyl)-3S-[(3',4'-methylenedioxyphenoxy) methyl] piperidine hydrochloride hemihydrate and (Controlled-Release Tablets:) (-) - (3S,4R)-4-[(p-fluorophenyl)-3-[(3,4-methylenedioxy) phenoxy]methyl]piperidine hydrochloride hemihydrate.
The empirical formula is C19H20FNO3HCl½H2O. The molecular weight is 374.8 (329.4 as free base).
Paroxetine HCl is an odorless, off-white powder, having a melting point range of 120-138°C and a solubility of 5.4 mg/ml in water.
Immediate-Release Tablets: Each film-coated Paxil tablet contains paroxetine HCl equivalent to paroxetine as follows: 10 mg: Yellow; 20 mg: Pink (scored); 30 mg: Blue, 40 mg: Green. Inactive ingredients consist of dibasic calcium phosphate dihydrate, hydroxypropyl methylcellulose, magnesium stearate, polyethylene glycols, polysorbate 80, sodium starch glycolate, titanium dioxide and one or more of the following: D&C red no. 30, D&C yellow no. 10, FD&C blue no. 2, FD&C yellow no. 6.
Oral Suspension: Each 5 ml of Paxil orange-colored, orange-flavored liquid contains paroxetine HCl equivalent to paroxetine, 10 mg. Inactive ingredients consist of polacrilin potassium, microcrystalline cellulose, propylene glycol, glycerin, sorbitol, methyl paraben, propyl paraben, sodium citrate dihydrate, citric acid anhydrate, sodium saccharin, flavorings, FD&C yellow no. 6 and simethicone emulsion.
Controlled-Release Tablets: Each enteric, film-coated, bilayer, controlled-release Paxil tablet contains paroxetine HCl equivalent to paroxetine as follows: 12.5 mg and 25 mg. One layer of the tablet consists of a degradable barrier layer and the other contains the active material in a hydrophilic matrix. The barrier layer is pale yellow and pink for the 12.5 mg and 25 mg strength tablets, respectively; the active layer is white.
Inactive ingredients consist of hydroxypropyl methylcellulose, polyvinylpyrrolidone, lactose monohydrate, magnesium stearate, colloidal silicon dioxide, glyceryl behenate, methacrylic acid copolymer type C, sodium lauryl sulfate, polysorbate 80, talc, triethyl citrate, and one or more of the following colorants: yellow ferric oxide, red ferric oxide.
INDICATIONS
Immediate-Release Tablets, Oral Suspension, and Controlled-Release Tablets
Depression
Paroxetine HCl is indicated for the treatment of depression.
The efficacy of paroxetine HCl in the treatment of a major depressive episode was established in 6-week controlled trials (for the immediate-release and oral suspension) and 12-week controlled trials (for the controlled-release tablets) of outpatients whose diagnoses corresponded most closely to the DSM-III category (for the immediate-release and oral suspension) and DSM-IV category (for the controlled-release tablets) of major depressive disorder
The antidepressant action of paroxetine HCl in hospitalized depressed patients has not been adequately studied.
Paroxetine HCl controlled-release tablets have not been systematically evaluated beyond 12 weeks in controlled clinical trials; however, the efficacy of immediate-release paroxetine HCl in maintaining an antidepressant response for up to 1 year was demonstrated in a placebo-controlled trial (see CLINICAL PHARMACOLOGY). Nevertheless, the physician who elects to use paroxetine HCl for extended periods should periodically re-evaluate for long-term usefulness of the drug for the individual patient.
Additional Information for Immediate-Release Tablets and Oral Suspension: A major depressive episode implies a prominent and relatively persistent depressed or dysphoric mood that usually interferes with daily functioning (nearly every day for at least 2 weeks); it should include at least 4 of the following 8 symptoms: change in appetite, change in sleep, psychomotor agitation or retardation, loss of interest in usual activities or decrease in sex drive, increased fatigue, feelings of guilt or worthlessness, slowed thinking or impaired concentration, and a suicide attempt or suicidal ideation.
The efficacy of paroxetine HCl in maintaining an antidepressant response for up to 1 year was demonstrated in a placebo-controlled trial (see CLINICAL PHARMACOLOGY). Nevertheless, the physician who elects to use paroxetine HCl for extended periods should periodically re-evaluate the long-term usefulness of the drug for the individual patient.
Additional Information Controlled-Release Tablets: A major depressive episode (DSM-IV) implies a prominent and relatively persistent (nearly every day for at least 2 weeks) depressed mood or loss of interest or pleasure in nearly all activities, representing a change from previous functioning, an includes the presence of at least five of the following nine symptoms during the same two week period: depressed mood, markedly diminished interest or pleasure in usual activities, significant change in weight and/or appetite, insomnia or hypersomnia, psychomotor agitation or retardation, increased fatigue, feelings of guilt or worthlessness, slowed thinking or impaired concentration, a suicide attempt or suicidal ideation.
Immediate-Release Tablets and Oral Suspension
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
Paroxetine HCl is indicated for the treatment of obsessions and compulsions in patients with obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD) as defined in the DSM-IV. The obsessions or compulsions cause marked distress, are time-consuming, or significantly interfere with social or occupational functioning.
The efficacy of paroxetine HCl was established in two 12-week trials with obsessive compulsive outpatients whose diagnoses corresponded most closely to the DSM-IIIR category of obsessive compulsive disorder (see CLINICAL STUDIES).
Obsessive compulsive disorder is characterized by recurrent and persistent ideas, thoughts, impulses or images (obsessions) that are ego-dystonic and/or repetitive, purposeful and intentional behaviors (compulsions) that are recognized by the person as excessive or unreasonable.
Long-term maintenance of efficacy was demonstrated in a 6-month relapse prevention trial. In this trial, patients assigned to paroxetine showed a lower relapse rate compared to patients on placebo (see CLINICAL PHARMACOLOGY). Nevertheless, the physician who elects to use paroxetine HCl for extended periods should periodically re-evaluate the long-term usefulness of the drug for the individual patient (see
DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION
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Panic Disorder
Paroxetine HCl is indicated for the treatment of panic disorder, with or without agoraphobia, as defined in DSM-IV. Panic disorder is characterized by the occurrence of unexpected panic attacks and associated concern about having additional attacks, worry about the implications or consequences of the attacks, and/or a significant change in behavior related to the attacks.
The efficacy of paroxetine HCl was established in three 10- to 12-week trials in panic disorder patients whose diagnoses corresponded to the DSM-IIIR category of panic disorder (see CLINICAL STUDIES).
Panic disorder (DSM-IV) is characterized by recurrent unexpected panic attacks i.e., a discrete period of intense fear or discomfort in which 4 (or more) of the following symptoms develop abruptly and reach a peak within 10 minutes: (1) palpitations, pounding heart or accelerated heart rate; (2) sweating; (3) trembling or shaking; (4) sensations of shortness of breath or smothering; (5) feeling of choking; (6) chest pain or discomfort; (7) nausea or abdominal distress; (8) feeling dizzy, unsteady, lightheaded, or faint; (9) derealization (feelings of unreality) or depersonalization (being detached from oneself); (10) fear of losing control; (11) fear of dying; (12) paresthesias (numbness or tingling sensations); (13) chills or hot flushes.
Long-term maintenance of efficacy was demonstrated in a 3-month relapse prevention trial. In this trial, patients with panic disorder assigned to paroxetine demonstrated a lower relapse rate compared to patients on placebo (see CLINICAL PHARMACOLOGY). Nevertheless, the physician who prescribes paroxetine HCl for extended periods should periodically re-evaluate the long-term usefulness of the drug for the individual patient.
Social Anxiety Disorder
Paroxetine HCl is indicated for the treatment of social anxiety disorder, also known as social phobia, as defined in DSM-IV (300.23) Social anxiety disorder is characterized by a marked and persistent fear of one or more social or performance situations in which the person is exposed to unfamiliar people or to possible scrutiny by others. Exposure to the feared situation almost invariably provokes anxiety, which may approach the intensity of a panic attack. The feared situations are avoided or endured with intense anxiety or distress. The avoidance, anxious anticipation, or distress in the feared situation(s) interferes significantly with the person's normal routine, occupational or academic functioning, or social activities or relationships, or there is marked distress about having the phobias. Lesser degrees of performance anxiety or shyness generally do not require psychopharmacological treatment.
The efficacy of paroxetine HCl was established in three 12-week trials in adult patients with social anxiety disorder (DSM-IV). Paroxetine HCl has not been studied in children or adolescents with social phobia (see CLINICAL STUDIES).
The effectiveness of paroxetine HCl in long-term treatment of social anxiety disorder, i.e., for more than 12 weeks, has not been systemically evaluated in adequate and well-controlled trials. Therefore, the physician who elects to prescribe paroxetine HCl for extended periods should periodically re-evaluate the long-term usefulness of the drug for the individual patient (see
DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION
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DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION
Depression
Usual Initial Dosage: Immediate-Release Tablets and Oral Suspension Only: Paroxetine HCl immediate-release formulations should be administered as a single daily dose, with or without food, usually in the morning. The recommended initial dose is 20 mg/day. Patients were dosed in a range of 20 to 50 mg/day in the clinical trials demonstrating the antidepressant effectiveness of paroxetine HCl. As with all antidepressants, the full antidepressant effect may be delayed. Some patients not responding to a 20 mg dose may benefit from dose increases, in 10 mg/day increments, up to a maximum of 50 mg/day. Dose changes should occur at intervals of at least 1 week. Controlled-Release Tablets: Paroxetine HCl controlled-release tablets should be administered as a single daily dose, usually in the morning, with or without food. The recommended initial dose is 25 mg/day. Patients were dosed in a range of 25 mg to 62.5 mg/day in the clinical trials demonstrating the antidepressant effectiveness of paroxetine HCl controlled-release tablets. As with all antidepressants, the full antidepressant effect may be delayed. Some patients not responding to a 25 mg dose may benefit from dose increases, in 12.5 mg/day increments, up to a maximum of 62.5 mg/day. Dose changes should occur at intervals of at least 1 week.
Patients should be cautioned that the paroxetine HCl controlled-release tablet should not be chewed or crushed, and should be swallowed whole.
Maintenance Therapy: Immediate-Release Tablets, Oral Suspension, and Controlled-Release Tablets: There is no body of evidence available to answer the question of how long the patient treated with paroxetine HCl should remain on it. It is generally agreed that acute episodes of depression require several months or longer of sustained pharmacologic therapy. Whether the dose of an antidepressant needed to induce remission is identical to the dose needed to maintain and/or sustain euthymia is unknown.
Systematic evaluation of the efficacy of immediate-release paroxetine HCl has shown that efficacy is maintained for periods of up to 1 year with doses that averaged about 30 mg, which corresponds to a 37.5 mg dose of paroxetine HCl controlled-release tablets, based on relative bioavailability considerations (see CLINICAL PHARMACOLOGY, Pharmacokinetics).
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
Immediate-Release Tablets and Oral Suspension
Usual Initial Dosage: Paroxetine HCl should be administered as a single daily dose, with or without food, usually in the morning. The recommended dose of paroxetine HCl in the treatment of OCD is 40 mg daily. Patients should be started on 20 mg/day and the dose can be increased in 10 mg/day increments. Dose changes should occur at intervals of at least 1 week. Patients were dosed in a range of 20 to 60 mg/day in the clinical trials demonstrating the effectiveness of paroxetine HCl in the treatment of OCD. The maximum dosage should not exceed 60 mg/day.
Maintenance Therapy: Long-term maintenance of efficacy was demonstrated in a 6-month relapse prevention trial. In this trial, patients with OCD assigned to paroxetine demonstrated a lower relapse rate compared to patients on placebo (see CLINICAL PHARMACOLOGY). OCD is a chronic condition, and it is reasonable to consider continuation for a responding patient. Dosage adjustments should be made to maintain the patient on the lowest effective dosage, and patients should be periodically reassessed to determine the need for continued treatment.
Panic Disorder
Immediate-Release Tablets and Oral Suspension
Usual Initial Dosage: Paroxetine HCl should be administered as a single daily dose with or without food, usually in the morning. The target dose of paroxetine HCl in the treatment of panic disorder is 40 mg/day. Patients should be started on 10 mg/day. Dose changes should occur in 10 mg/day increments and at intervals of at least 1 week. Patients were dosed in a range of 10 to 60 mg/day in the clinical trials demonstrating the effectiveness of paroxetine HCl. The maximum dosage should not exceed 60 mg/day.
Maintenance Therapy: Long-term maintenance of efficacy was demonstrated in a 3-month relapse prevention trial. In this trial, patients with panic disorder assigned to paroxetine demonstrated a lower relapse rate compared to patients on placebo (see CLINICAL PHARMACOLOGY). Panic disorder is a chronic condition, and it is reasonable to consider continuation for a responding patient. Dosage adjustments should be made to maintain the patient on the lowest effective dosage, and patients should be periodically reassessed to determine the need for continued treatment.
Social Anxiety Disorder
Immediate-Release Tablets and Oral Suspension
Usual Initial Dosage: Paroxetine HCl should be administered as a single daily dose with or without food, usually in the morning. The recommended and initial dosage is 20 mg/day. In clinical trials the effectiveness of paroxetine HCl was demonstrated in patients dosed in a range of 20 to 60 mg/day. While the safety of paroxetine HCl has been evaluated in patients with social anxiety disorder at doses up to 60 mg/day, available information does not suggest any additional benefit for doses above 20 mg/day (see CLINICAL PHARMACOLOGY).
Maintenance Therapy: There is no body of evidence available to answer the question of how long the patient treated with paroxetine HCl should remain on it. Although the efficacy of paroxetine HCl beyond 12 weeks of dosing has not been demonstrated in controlled clinical trials, social anxiety disorder is recognized as a chronic condition, and it is reasonable to consider continuation of treatment for a responding patient. Dosage adjustments should be made to maintain the patient on the lowest effective dosage, and patients should be periodically reassessed to determine the need for continued treatment.
Immediate-Release Tablets, Oral Suspension, and Controlled-Release Tablets
Dosage for Elderly or Debilitated, and Patients with Severe Renal or Hepatic Impairment: The recommended initial dose is 10 mg/day (immediate-release tablets and oral suspension) and 12.5 mg/day (controlled-release tablets) for elderly patients, debilitated patients, and/or patients with severe renal or hepatic impairment. Increases may be made if indicated. Dosage should not exceed 40 mg/day (immediate-release tablets and oral suspension) and 50 mg/day (controlled-release tablets).
Switching Patients to or From a Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitor: At least 14 days should elapse between discontinuation of a MAOI and initiation of paroxetine HCl therapy. Similarly, at least 14 days should be allowed after stopping paroxetine HCl before starting an MAOI.
HOW SUPPLIED
Paxil Immediate-Release Tablets
Film-coated, modified-oval as follows:
10 mg Tablets: Yellow tablets engraved on the front with PAXIL and on the back with 10.
20 mg Tablets: Pink, scored tablets engraved on the front with PAXIL and on the back with 20.
30 mg Tablets: Blue tablets engraved on the front with PAXIL and on the back with 30.
40 mg Tablets: Green tablets engraved on the front with PAXIL and on the back with 40.
Storage: Store tablets 15-30°C (59-86°F).
Paxil Oral Suspension
Orange-colored, orange-flavored, 10 mg/5ml.
Storage: Store suspension at or below 25°C (77°F).
NOTE: SHAKE SUSPENSION WELL BEFORE USING.
Paxil CR (Controlled-Release Tablets)
Paxil CR is supplied as an enteric film-coated, controlled-release, bilayer round tablet.
12.5 mg Tablets: Pale yellow and white tablets, printed with Paxil CR and 12.5.
25 mg Tablets: Pink and white tablets, printed with Paxil CR and 25.
Storage: Store at controlled room temperature between 20-25°C (68-77°F).
PATIENT INFORMATION
Paroxetine HCl is used to treat depression, panic disorder and obsessive-compulsive disorders. Paroxetine HCl should not be taken if you are currently taking monoamine oxidase inhibitors. If you have been prescribed a monoamine oxidase inhibitor by another physician please call them for advice. Any drug which affects the central nervous system can cause drowsiness or lethargy. This drug has rarely been associated with this effect but caution is warranted while driving or operating machinery. Avoid drinking alcohol. Please consult with your physician or pharmacist whenever you are using another medication, especially over-the-counter medications since there may be interactions. Paroxetine is generally taken once a day, in the morning. It may take 4 or more weeks before improvement is symptoms is seen. You are encouraged to continue therapy until advised by your physician to stop.
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bubbathegut
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does anyone know if zoloft is just as good as paxil and do they work about the same?
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Orchid
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I personally like zoloft it gives me a calming effect..but paxil is excellent also..zoloft thou makes me calmer...just switches to Lexipro and really love it...its gentle and works good and supposed to be without the weight gain
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bargsbeer69
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I just Switched from Xanax to Paxil and i must say im Impressed with the Results so far.And i like the Paxil Much Better than Xanax.I can remember more i don't Slur when i talk.
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sigmund22
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Since Paxil and Zoloft are both SSRIs, the key word is "selective" - these meds target different neurotransmittor sites to inhibit the re-uptake of serotonin.
Individual differences in metabolism, genetics, nature of symptoms, other meds in the patient's regimen are among the variables used by a seasoned psychopharamcologist (psychiatrist specializing in psychotropic meds). Therefore, it's often trial and error until one finds the med that works - since one starts SSRIs at low doseages and work up to the point where it makes a difference.
Whatever helps "lift the cloud" and makes you function better is the one that is best
sigmund22
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bushstalin04
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Personally, I hate Paxil and SSRI's in general. I've taken Paxil, Prozac and Celexa and hated them all. Celexa did nothing except for negative sides and Paxil/Prozac had a somewhat positive impact on depression, but basically made me feel like an unmotivated zombie. Paxil was the worst though. Taking Paxil I gained about 60 pounds over the course of 14 months, I had awful carbohydrate cravings, I had alcohol cravings, I couldn't sleep, I developed a night time sleep disorder, I felt like a zombie, I had no energy, I had no motivation, I didn't care about anything...it was like I had no personality or emotional ups and downs...everything was just grey feeling. It was so awful, I had no energy and felt so tired, but yet I couldn't sleep more than 4 hours a night. The weight gain and lack of motivation had to be the worst though, prior to taking the paxil I had been working out 4 or 5 days a week...but on paxil I really didn't care about anything except eating. I couldn't even motivate myself to do schoolwork, I ended up getting like a 2.4 GPA one semester, when my average had beeen 3.5. In short I think SSRI's are far too easily prescribed....all of the SSRIs I took affected my personality so dramatically that it disturbed me sometimes. At the beginning my depression was extremely severe and I think the Paxil may have helped a bit...but after that I really regret being on an SSRI. And when I stopped Paxil there was a withdrawal with all kinds of weird side effects.
Currently I'm taking 200mg of Wellbutrin SR and doing great...I've lost 50 of the 60 pounds I gained by working out and eating better. The carb/alcohol cravings are gone and I'm motivated to workout 4 or 5 times a week. My grades are great and I feel "normal" actually. Only complaint is that my social anxiety is still an issue, but its a worthwhile tradeoff for all the horrible sides that SSRI's give....I'm considering asking for Ativan to deal with the situational anxiety.
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sigmund22
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Glad to hear that you persued all of the alternatives and found an antidepressant that works for you. SSRIs aren't for everyone, which is one of the reasons that more research is needed on assessing which anti-depressants work for different individuals 
Great self-advocacy on your part! Hope you find a med that is helpful for the social anxiety.
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stevesmith
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paxil is evil. stay on it too long and you start having withdrawls. I was getting sick and withdrawl symptoms when I was only a hour or 2 late taking my next pill. I posted a huge thing bout ti somewhere on here if anyone cares.
JMO
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salstar
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I care! I also posted a thing about Paxil/Paroxetine withdrawals (aka 'Seroxat' if you live in the UK) and have copied and pasted it for those who are interested:
"I have some very bad news about Paxil/Paroxetine and the terrible withdrawals I had from it. It's important to establish first that I've been on many other SSRI's and other drugs and have stopped taking them all with little or no side effects. But I have NEVER experienced anything as bad as coming off Paxil.
At first I thought I had a freakish kind of Flu. I'd run out of my prescription and all of a sudden I was struck down by what I thought was a crazy virus. I stayed in bed for two weeks convulsing, sweating and having auditory hallucinations, unbelievably vivid dreams and a very dark and frightening depression. The funny thing is I never once thought it was because I'd stopped taking my pills, I just assumed that the reason I couldn't get to the doctor to collect my next prescription was because I had 'caught' this unusual bug.
Anyway, 6 months later I decided to stop taking Paxil for other reasons, and tapered off slowly and guess what? The exact same symptoms of the mysterious virus that I thought I'd contracted several months earlier returned. It was then that I realised I was going through major withdrawals. Nothing could stop them so I just rode it out... one night I remember having the heating cranked up full blast and although I was wrapped up in a fleece blanket and was practically stuck to the radiator, I was shivering and aching all over. I felt like a proper junkie and I thought that the nightmare was never going to end! Thankfully it did, and needless to say, I never went back to the doctor who prescribed Paxil to me with the assurance that 'they are in no way addictive'.
I had to share this experience because to this day I am amazed that this seemingly 'harmless' drug could do this to me, whilst other drugs that are considered highly addictive had little or no effect when I stopped taking them. I suppose once again it is down to the individual, everybody reacts differently to drugs. It pains me to say this, but I'm sure there are lots of people out there who have taken Paxil and have given up with minimal side effects."
...I'm just not one of them!!!
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Sally
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InvaderCAL
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I was on Paxil before and I can honestly say that I didn't really feel like it did much of anything for me. So when the Dr. took me off of it she told me to just stop taking it.
BIG MISTAKE!
I am looking to get back on something for my depression. Any suggestions?
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stevesmith
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PAXIL IS AWFUL!!!!!!!!!!! i feel your pain really I do!
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stevesmith
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I was on Paxil before and I can honestly say that I didn't really feel like it did much of anything for me. So when the Dr. took me off of it she told me to just stop taking it.
BIG MISTAKE!
I am looking to get back on something for my depression. Any suggestions?
PAXIL IS AWFUL!!!!!!!!!!! i feel your pain really I do!
all I can suggest is TONS of excersise. it worked for me. i totaly different person now. mental and physical and I get a different little cutie to wake up to every weekend! lol
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PPL don't argue over ideas or possible solutions, but instead argue to assert their egos and release frustration. Once U realize this, U will neither argue nor take arguments seriously
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salstar
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InvaderCAL: God... I wish I had an answer for you. Truth is, I'm still searching myself... and I mean REALLY searching. You name it, I've tried it: legal/illegal... addictive/'non-addictive'... controversial/acceptable... and I still haven't found the magic answer. I've tried different types of therapy and have had varying responses, but I'm willing to go down the therapy route again in the hope that it might work this time - I've actually booked a session for this Thursday so wish me luck!
As for meds, I've just ordered some more *sigh* new pills: 'Wellbutrin' (Bupropion) and 'Effexor' (Venlafaxine) to see if they'll have any impact... so I'll let you know how I get on with those. We are all complicated little bundles of confusion that respond differently, so even if it works for me, there's no guarentee it'll work for you. But why are we here if not to share experiences and information? I'll keep posting my responses anyway in the hope that it might help someone. Maybe this time these particular pills will actually work, or maybe this time the therapy might have a positive effect and save me. It's all a gamble but I'm willing to take each and every one of them because I know I can't carry on feeling this way for much longer - this torturous and relentless fog - I'm sure you can relate.
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salstar
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all I can suggest is TONS of excersise. it worked for me. i totaly different person now. mental and physical and I get a different little cutie to wake up to every weekend! lol
You little scamp!
When you exercise, it supposedly releases endorphins (happy chemicals) in the brain... so that makes a lot of sense.
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Sally
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InvaderCAL
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Yes Salstar I can relate, and thank you for your response. Keep me informed as to your progress please.
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stevesmith
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all I can suggest is TONS of excersise. it worked for me. i totaly different person now. mental and physical and I get a different little cutie to wake up to every weekend! lol
You little scamp!
When you exercise, it supposedly releases endorphins (happy chemicals) in the brain... so that makes a lot of sense.
yeah liek that term "runner's high"
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PPL don't argue over ideas or possible solutions, but instead argue to assert their egos and release frustration. Once U realize this, U will neither argue nor take arguments seriously
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stevesmith
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InvaderCAL: God... I wish I had an answer for you. Truth is, I'm still searching myself... and I mean REALLY searching. You name it, I've tried it: legal/illegal... addictive/'non-addictive'... controversial/acceptable... and I still haven't found the magic answer. I've tried different types of therapy and have had varying responses, but I'm willing to go down the therapy route again in the hope that it might work this time - I've actually booked a session for this Thursday so wish me luck!
As for meds, I've just ordered some more *sigh* new pills: 'Wellbutrin' (Bupropion) and 'Effexor' (Venlafaxine) to see if they'll have any impact... so I'll let you know how I get on with those. We are all complicated little bundles of confusion that respond differently, so even if it works for me, there's no guarentee it'll work for you. But why are we here if not to share experiences and information? I'll keep posting my responses anyway in the hope that it might help someone. Maybe this time these particular pills will actually work, or maybe this time the therapy might have a positive effect and save me. It's all a gamble but I'm willing to take each and every one of them because I know I can't carry on feeling this way for much longer - this torturous and relentless fog - I'm sure you can relate.
I have quit all meds routinely. I still keep a Valium script for random anxiety from everyday life ya know. But after the fog cleared outta my head and I was unmedicated I started the whole excersise thing. I do cardiovascular/kickboxing in mornings at 7:30-9:30 am, then I am here at the office and between dealing with clients go jog 1-2 miles here and there throughout the day. Then come nightime from 5:30-8:30ish I workout/cardiovascular/kickboxing and a good jog in between the 3. I need to lose soem more weight and I wanna get in ALOT better shape, but ultimately the excersise is my medication. It might not happen all at first but getting yer body all free of toxins and excersising daily and all this really is making a HUGE difference in my day to day life. + worst case scenario with excersise I miss a session I dont get sick and have withdrawls haha I think 1 reason we are such a medicated/depressed population now is our lack of excersise. we ride busses, cars, boats, elevators, sit at desks all day. I really think everyday excersise can make a HUGE difference in alot of ppl.
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PPL don't argue over ideas or possible solutions, but instead argue to assert their egos and release frustration. Once U realize this, U will neither argue nor take arguments seriously
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astrophel2
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I agree, paxil is horrible. When I took my first dose at 15 many years ago, I ate a Checker's hamburger just prior. The next morning, I literally choked on my own vomit. I wasn't able to breathe, and my dad threw me in the car to take me to the emergency room. Before we got out of the driveway, I somehow coughed whatever was lodged out. It was terrifying. I felt incredibly naseous the ENTIRE next day. I couldn't move my head without gagging or feeling the need to spew.
Needless to say, paxil and checker's hamburgers will never enter my mouth again.
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-Melissa
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stevesmith
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all I can suggest is TONS of excersise. it worked for me. i totaly different person now. mental and physical and I get a different little cutie to wake up to every weekend! lol
You little scamp!
When you exercise, it supposedly releases endorphins (happy chemicals) in the brain... so that makes a lot of sense.
Eat well
If your fuel consists of junk then what should you expect of your life? Sugar spikes and junk food create a disruptive physical and mental imbalance that you should avoid inflicting upon yourself.
Exercise
We are animals removed from nature, but with frequent exercise we can revive the healthy instincts that once guided us in creating great civilizations.
http://www.datejesus.com/sermons/guide_to_life.html
and I want to make it clear I am not being religious or political on here. the website referred to despite it's name IS NOT religious either.
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PPL don't argue over ideas or possible solutions, but instead argue to assert their egos and release frustration. Once U realize this, U will neither argue nor take arguments seriously
Edited by stevesmith (10/26/04 08:25 AM)
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