nlehman
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The postal inspector questioned me about a package that my boyfriend ordered. They believe that it contains steroids and the package is from a foreign country. I guess that it requires a signature on delivery. If he refuses the package even though it is addressed to him can he still get into trouble for ordering steroids without a prescription? I don't know anything about this sort of thing so any information that you can give me would be greatly appreciated!
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t_oshan2003
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all he has to do is say he has no idea what that order is, he never ordered anything like that and its just not his package and won't accept it.
Just make sure he doesn't sign for anything and stick to his story. Just play dumb.
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Jaketoo
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Are you in the USA?. If so, tell the postal folks to go scrub, sign and take your package home. I'm an importer of Rolex watches from Singapore - they used to hold my EMS packs and X-ray them. I raised hell about the slow delivery (held at local Post Office for a few days), all of a sudden no more problems.
Molson
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Sidamo
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all he has to do is say he has no idea what that order is, he never ordered anything like that and its just not his package and won't accept it.
Just make sure he doesn't sign for anything and stick to his story. Just play dumb.
Listen to this poster, it's good advice.
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bos
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Playing dumb is probably the best bet, unless there is an invoice inside the package detailing payment.
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Tred
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Playing dumb is a good idea. If a perscription is written (or an invoice) inside the package, that may become a problem, but you can still say you didn't have a clue what it was or what it is (for that matter).
Don't take it home or sign for it if you have any doubts. They can allow you to sign and even take it home, but then the cavelry will come and be a knockin' on ur door.
Be smart and chalk it up as a loss. Steroids are bad anyway. heh
Tred =)
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flippie
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This is obviously a ridiculous analogy, but imagine that someone on this forum decided to play a little practical joke on President Bush, and order a pound of pure diazapam powder shipped to the White House in his name.
Would he be arrested?
We used to argue about something called "backbilling" in oldschool k0de-kidz days (if anybody knows what I'm talking about). Backbilling basically meant that you had hacked a long distance access code and used it to dial say a BBS, and eventually Sprint or whoever would call the owner of the BBS and threaten to charge THEM with all the illegal phone calls that hundreds of people around the country have made to them (like a popular bulletin board that lots of people phreaked to).
That was just as silly. So someone go make an illegal call to the Chief of Police in your town, then report him for receiving it.
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yawkaw3
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Sounds like we got a 2600 reader here, eh?
Time to go eat my captain crunch...hehe.
-yawkaw
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dman22
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Lol - Good 'ole MCI codes and ANSI-coded BBS's. What fun that was 
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xytx
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In MY day, we didn't need any of this new-fangled, broadband, inter-web, tomfoolery  Just a recording greeting card and a pay phone...
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skat
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Oh my God. I'd forgotten all about old Commodore 64 software and Sprint codes... wow! Talk about memories! 
::innocent look:: Hey, it was my twenties...
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dman22
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That's it! LOL! Thanks to Wildcat software for many wasted summer days in youth.
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jackass_cowboy
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WarDialing with ToneLoc and trying to build bullshit Blueboxes and Black boxes that haven't worked for years.
I had a lot of fun building my own linemans set and calling New Zeland from the bushes near the neighbors house. Those oldschool RatShack dialers with the 6.5536mhz crystal were always handy.
Those were the days you could find a dialup to any company and get in with a maintenance password no problem. These days it's all abot RSA tokens, firewalls and IDS. Somehow the fun just isn't there anymore.
Good times.
I see all of us aging H/P/A/C kiddies have migrated to buying drugs off the web.
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flippie
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Thank you, folks. You just made me feel like part of the human race again. What an unusual cross-mix - if any of you are into satellite hacking (Dave/Charlie/Puke) I'll snort so hard that I'll blow hot coffee out of my nose and sue myself for making it so hot.
There is this company, http://omeninc.com/products.php who are now contracted with major US intelligence agencies. Their purpose is to take vast amounts of information, like those collected by DCS-1000, and find patterns that would otherwise be unnoticed.
I wonder if it has sufficient data to coorelate any of the people on this site to one another from say 300 baud Apple ASCII eXpress days - wouldn't it be a hoot?
Oh and SecureIDs/ACE servers don't mean diddly, if you have access to the switch. But of course, you probably already know that, and its all water under the bridge now anyway, eh?
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flippie
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I remember during the Iran hostage affair, using a redbox to call into Iran repeatedly, until we find a number that someone answers - this is harder than it sounds, because to call directly from the USA into Iran requires a LOT of "quarters" and ACTS doesn't carry you all the way there, you have to actually play the tones for a live operator, so you have to be just random enough - most of you probably know what I mean.
Anyway we figured there are only a few lines between the USA and Iran, and there is no doubt both governments were monitoring them, so we would call in from a payphone and on getting an answer, say something like "Our plan is working perfectly, my brother - we will overthrow your Shaw before the month's end! Praise Jesus!"
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Now using a GTD5 to hotline a POTS to 911 and making threats against the president - seven years or not, this story ends right here.
Anyone remember Lutz, @0262454800177 or the pervert one at 0208057040540 (QSD)?
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flippie
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Sorry I will make this the last reply I make on this totally off-topic subject, but the blue boxes have worked up until recently, for all I know they still do.
You just have to have a way of dialing into a country that still uses ancient technology (pre-CCIS) free of charge.
I bet some phone companies route 800 numbers that go directly into those foreign switches and some foreign countries still use SxS switches, believe it or not. Not mentioning any names,
It really HAS been years though, and things could be worlds different now.
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MrOrange
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Man, I don't understand a thing you are talking about. But it sure sounds like fun. I wish I could have gotten in on all that tech stuff back then, but I thought that the PC wasn't here to stay. Boy, what a dope I was.
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flippie
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I have personally been thinking that the computer fad is almost over now, and I am looking towards the possibility of becoming a certified fry tech at Wendy's. (WCFT)
The test is one of the more difficult Prometric designs, but they have Transcenders for it.
Actually I wasn't old enough to even have opinions about how long they would be around - I wanted one, dad was an engineer and a tech junkie too, so we got one. Pure fascination with gizmos on both Dad and my part, really. (I woulda been in the high one digit age range then)
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mackmoves
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not only did you mention ansi, but aslo mci codes?!
man, those were the days. Who remembers looking all around for the NUP of the newest iCE/ACiD/MiRAGE/RAZORi9ii/iNC/ThG/ETC Board just so you could apply and hopefully be voted on? i remember i had a mean pc xt 8088,with a huge 32meg hard drive, cga monitor, 3.5 and 5.25 1.22 meg floppies , 640k ram , and a 1200 bps modem (my next computer had the legendary 14.4). I always liked the telegard,renegade boards. MBBS was fun for chating, i thought wild cat sucked (sorry).
and thats not even mentioning the p(both private and public, lol)bx's, and other things both real and fake (rainbow box!?).
sorry just remembering, its nice to see htat there are people that remember at least this era if not the same details. DOS seperated the men from the mice, now computer and the internet is an open forum, as it should be i guess.
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mizzzj
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I haven't had any Captain Crunch for a long time. I wonder if my son will eat some. He's busy with mIRC scripts, but maybe he'll take a break...
J~ 
You all know what I think of the US Postal Service. More snooping and lazy than any UPS or FedEx worker!
Pretty SAD!!! They will call the DEA on you in a minute!!! They resent the fact that they have to deliver a few pieces of mail and actually "work."
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Edited by mizzzj (08/05/04 03:18 PM)
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IMSUSCOT1
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Yes he can get into trouble for ordering steroids...they can get a warrant (*in conjunction with local law enforcememnt) and search your house, take your computer, get into your computer...so just sayig you don't know anthing about someithing like this doesn't always work. What was the resolution? My husband is a manager for the Postal Service, they just did a controlled delivery of a bag of marijuana with Postal inspectors, local law enforcement and a speicalist with a dea taskforce. It can happen, it does happen you need to take this seriously, they are!!!
Oh and yeah the morons who sent it, put a valid return address....just in case it got "lost" along the way, DUH
Edited by IMSUSCOT1 (08/09/04 06:16 PM)
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patient2all
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Flippy and Mac,
Don't take offense, but why don't you guys set up a board somewhere?
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patient2all
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patient2all
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Anyway we figured there are only a few lines between the USA and Iran, and there is no doubt both governments were monitoring them, so we would call in from a payphone and on getting an answer, say something like "Our plan is working perfectly, my brother - we will overthrow your Shaw before the month's end! Praise Jesus!"
Try that now and you'll end up sitting naked in a pitch black cell for 4 day stretches interrupted only by 16 hour interrogation sessions!
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patient2all
It's a sad world, getting sadder by the day....
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