diggsbakes
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Reged: 09/17/03
Posts: 542
Loc: Mountians
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To jump back to the original poster's initial statemnts, I found two inconsistencies that are disturbing.
1.) She refers to herself as a "sixteen year old beach bum" when describing the DEA's lack of interest in her bank records due to the responsibility.
ABSOLUTELY NO 16 YEAR OLD SHOULD BE ORDERING MEDICATION.
2.) She describes a scenerio in which she is in a interogation room with her lawyer.
ANY 16 YEAR OLD WOULD NOT BE BROUGHT IN FOR QUESTIONING WITH OUT THEIR MOMMY AND DADDY.
Just facts.
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DonBarba
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Reged: 04/02/04
Posts: 260
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No, I did not go to jail, but was questioned by an agent who looked like he was a sixteen year old beach bum and "his father."
quote from her post........
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mizzzj
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Reged: 01/31/04
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Loc: Town of snooping Post Office
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See Diggs you just need to learn to read, and by the way what is it you bake? lol. 
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Trampy
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Loc: Southwest U.S.
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... and the fact is no one ever got arrested or visited by the DEA for ordering a noncontrolled substance from an IOP.
The DEA has no authority unless it's a controlled substance, so why would they bother? The FDA would have to send someone. Yeah, right.
Don't confuse DEA and FDA. DEA is under DOJ. FDA is under HHS. Totally different Departments.
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calgal
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Reged: 12/24/01
Posts: 17
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Visit expected anytime now - and I actually did order meds for my dog!! In this case it was DEA + Dept. of Homeland Security + Customs (cue patriotic music now) which sent letters... At least I kept the old vet medicine bottles, and I have an attorney available if needed. Too bad I'm not so far gone that I claim her as a dependant to get my HMO to cover her allergy and anxiety meds... I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry... Thank goodness someone is protecting the good-ole USA way-of-life
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mizzzj
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Reged: 01/31/04
Posts: 232
Loc: Town of snooping Post Office
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Its funny that you mention this because during my "visit", veternary meds were also mentioned as a substance that you need a script for.
Pooches can cost alot of money. If you get a "visit" due to your dog's meds, this Country has more of a problem than we know. I think in that situation, I'd laugh.
The bad thing is with using USPS. United Stated Post Office has Federal as well as State jurisdiction, so if they don't like what you're doing, they can prosecute at the State or Federal level. I have never heard of this happening but...who knows. Its possible.
Scary...J~ 
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lovepink
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Reged: 01/01/02
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Loc: NYC Metro Area
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The question of to order or not to order from IOPs is moot for me anyway - IOPs don't offer anything that I need on a regular basis and I have too much to lose if I did ever get caught. I'm a former DoD civilian employee and require a security clearance for my job - if I ever choose to return I'll need to be able to obtain a security clearance again.
I don't care where others choose to order their meds from and I'm not anti-IOP, its just not a viable alternative for me.
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nycalt
Reged: 05/04/04
Posts: 548
Loc: Manhattan, NYC
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Visit expected anytime now - and I actually did order meds for my dog!! In this case it was DEA + Dept. of Homeland Security + Customs (cue patriotic music now) which sent letters... At least I kept the old vet medicine bottles, and I have an attorney available if needed. Too bad I'm not so far gone that I claim her as a dependant to get my HMO to cover her allergy and anxiety meds... I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry... Thank goodness someone is protecting the good-ole USA way-of-life
This is just totally freakin' bizarre.
Over pet medicine??? It just doesnt make any sense. What the f#$%k would the Department of Homeland Security care about vet meds???
I am convinced there is more to this than the DEA and DHS looking to bust people for ordering Meds for their pet. And it is interesting that vet meds were mentioned in the other case
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Mabe some vet med is used as a base for some explosive or chemical weapons or something like that????
What country was it ordered from?
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mizzzj
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Reged: 01/31/04
Posts: 232
Loc: Town of snooping Post Office
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No IOPs for me either anymore, but some of them are sneaky and tell consumers they are legit Drs who will write a script from a US doctor. I get a little nervous if they don't seem quite right. Always grateful for DB comments.
MizzzJ
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MetsFan
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Reged: 09/21/03
Posts: 148
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Actually, 30 years ago, I knew of kids selling (illegaly of course), some kind of dog meds as "THC". There are all kinds of weird stuff people do.
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Luca_Brasi
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Reged: 12/01/03
Posts: 240
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Whoa... Am I to understand that if I order pain meds from an Online Pharmacy, I could get in trouble? Wow! I had no clue. I have been told that as long as they had my medical records, the OP Dr could legally prescribe meds for me without breaking any laws. Things are gettin bad.
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charlesMor
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Reged: 02/18/04
Posts: 2
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I agree with you Buey. I'm currently exploring my local options - as I have no health insurance to visit several PMDs in a quest for a compassionate one, I'm currently debating Subutex/Suboxone maintenance vs. a methadone clinic. I never thought I'd even consider methadone, particularly in a clinic setting, but I don't want to be in pain and WDs as I believe many here will be when the remaining OPs are shut down. I certainly hope I'm wrong but I'm not willing to bet on it.
Let me put my two cents in about your debate over Methadone and Sub in either form. Go with sub. I am on it and love it. Methadone is a much more pwoerful drug, and is harder to get off of. You are also more functional with sub. And you can get up to a months scrip at a time. Three days for the first. Weekly for the next couple, and then monthly. Also most insurance covers sub, and none cover Methadone.
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patient2all
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Loc: usa
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Over pet medicine??? It just doesn’t make any sense. What the f#$%k would the Department of Homeland Security care about vet meds???
I am convinced there is more to this than the DEA and DHS looking to bust people for ordering Meds for their pet. And it is interesting that vet meds were mentioned in the other case….
Probably Ketamine. You see those fools in the Shout Box asking "Anyone know where I can get some Ketamine? my dog's sick, heh, heh".
Ketamine is a rapid-acting anesthetic used on both animals and humans. There are probably more like it too that can be imported for illicit use.
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nycalt
Reged: 05/04/04
Posts: 548
Loc: Manhattan, NYC
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Probably Ketamine. You see those fools in the Shout Box asking "Anyone know where I can get some Ketamine? my dog's sick, heh, heh".
Ketamine is a rapid-acting anesthetic used on both animals and humans. There are probably more like it too that can be imported for illicit use.
You know, Ketamine was my first thought as well.
But, still, the Department of Homeland Security???? I guess maybe MAJOR quantities were involved. Still....
Wierd.
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patient2all
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Loc: usa
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You know, Ketamine was my first thought as well.
But, still, the Department of Homeland Security???? I guess maybe MAJOR quantities were involved. Still....
Perhaps Customs didn't know what kind of chemicals they were looking at at first.
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Trampy
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Reged: 04/02/02
Posts: 1222
Loc: Southwest U.S.
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The question of to order or not to order from IOPs is moot for me anyway - IOPs don't offer anything that I need on a regular basis and I have too much to lose if I did ever get caught. I'm a former DoD civilian employee and require a security clearance for my job - if I ever choose to return I'll need to be able to obtain a security clearance again. ...
Up until Customs was merged into DHS post-9/11, i know for sure that seizure letters from Treasury did not come up on full-field background investigations at the NSI TS level. I have no idea if DHS seizure notices would come up now, but i'd bet it'd be 50/50 odds for a new or periodic TS investigation.
Any arrest is a different story. An arrest logged in to the FBI's NCIS would show up immediately from the "agency check," and the agency processing a clearance at any level would call you in for questioning about any arrest you have to tell them about, no matter how petty the crime.
It's a lot like the Arlo Guthrie song Alice's Restaurant ... all on tape. Don't ask. It was all because of a 50-cent subway fare when the token booth had run out of tokens. The arrest was for a 15-years-prior Theft of Services with the case dismissed after 6 months. They approved the clearance the very next day, but only after taping the story and having me agree in writing to take a polygraph on request. For a TS-equivalent, some agencies still ask(ed) if you were EVER arrested. Even if it was a dismissed misdemeanor from 30 years ago you might still have to put it on the form. For just an S-level i think they don't go back forever any more.
Trampy
P.S. It's been quite a while since i had a clearance, and they now have federal regulations supposedly standardizing the requirements across agencies. I do know that they're using any mental health care received in recent years as a reason to go on a fishing expedition through people's medical and counseling records. The "Vince Foster" Executive Order barring them from obtaining medical and mental health records was rescinded by Little Bush right after he took office.
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tesla
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Reged: 04/20/02
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Hey Trampy, you can get anything you want at Alice Restarant!
Your post brought back fond memories. For you youngun's, Arlo G's ong is very long and very funny!
Now on to more serious items.
To all FBI, DEA, etc agents reading this board. Stop wasting out taxpayers money. It's about time Tennant quit just because our intelligence agencies are run by the 21st equivalents of Inspector Closeau (Spelling) (The Pink Panther guy).
Our members' efforts to relieve their and their animal's pain don't present any danger to the US government. Arabs are planting car bombs in Texas, smuggling nukes into our ports, adn through our mail. You have something else more important to do than track purchases from IOP.
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indiacat
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Reged: 04/27/04
Posts: 8
Loc: Sunny California
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The Ketamine thing is probably a good guess but I worked in vet medicine for many years and we had Valium, Ketamine, Phenobarb and many others in our little locked box. There are even vets who use Dilaudid, Hydro and many others on a regular basis. So ordering pet meds can be just as dagerous as many others. Just an FYI.
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IMSUSCOT1
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Reged: 10/23/02
Posts: 868
Loc: usa
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No, it was one of the DEA agents she described as looking like a 16 year old beach bum....not her
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Daycamp72
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Loc: Tara
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Ed...you and I must be about the same age...
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yertman
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Reged: 04/25/03
Posts: 76
Loc: Louisiana
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I recently had an order seized, customs sent certified and I never signed for it. That was weeks ago, today I got a notice that a certified letter from the Treasury Department was waiting for me, wondering if that is regarding my past seizure, or much worse, an audit?? Anydody ever got a letter from the treaury dept re: seized meds before. I'm really worried, thanks for any advice!
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lippy156
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Reged: 09/16/03
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Please reply private. If I can what state are you in? Nad if you feel comfortable the city? Thanks, Lippy156.
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stjude
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Reged: 11/10/03
Posts: 7
Loc: TN
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CharlesMor,
Please give me more info on the Sub. I want to check into getting some. I really want it, but even more than myself, my very best friend had a very bad problem with Hydro, like 30-40 per day. She was on it for so long with fibro, her tolerance kept getting higher & higher & next thing she knew she was in bad shape. This was someone who owned their own home, had a great job & everything. My heart breaks for her. Now, she spends 1/2 her day EVERY day at the methadone clinic or she is very sick. It breaks my heart. I'm single & am buying a new house this week. I'm moving her in with me to get her back on her feet. I'm helping her to get a job, I gave her one of my cars and if it is the last thing I do, I am going to help her get her dignity & self-esteem back. She says the methadone is 10 times worse than the hydro she was on, and they don't really explain all that to you when you sign up at the clinic. But, she's been over the verge of suicide and I can't stand because I know how big her heart is and what a great person she is and I want to help her. So, if you can give me any info on this at all. I bought some of the Temgesics for her a long time ago and they really helped, but I just don't know where to get either of these items anymore. Can you please help me? You can e-mail me at Thanks SO much!
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dman22
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Loc: Everywhere
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Yertman -
I'm wondering if the two are un-related? Remember, certified mail is quite common in business. Hopefully someone else here has had a similar circumstance and can further help? I use to freak out about signing/not-signing certifed mail. I received one the other day, sender unknown. Little did I know, the mail courier couldn't make out the return address (smeared by water/ink-jet printer). It was an ex-employer notifying me about COBRA benefits. No biggie as I threw it away.
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rocketguy
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Reged: 03/23/03
Posts: 31
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So, does this mean firstmedsinter.com should be avoided like the plague??? Do you think their red flagging anyone
ordering from the site?
I ordered once from FirstMedInter (June 2003), nothing arrived, they didn't respond to my emails at all (in fact some bounced because their email server was full...they must have been getting a lot of mail!) I figured they were either a scam or especially subject to seizure (although I never got a seizure letter). Fortunately I paid by credit card, and my bank is very good about doing chargebacks, so I lost no money.
As for "red flagging"...I've ordered lots of other things of USOP's and other IOP's for myself and my family since then never had a problem. I'm just one person, but that's my story.
Peace and good health to all,
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