quincy
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I guess the only thing we can do is write our congressmen or other government officials. As if that would work, but if the Canadian government can trust its people with codeine, why can't the US??
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lemongrass
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Reged: 09/23/03
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Loc: IL
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Precisely, IMSUSCOT1! It's so true! If you are in legitimate pain, you don't get that euphoric feeling! I've been trying to tell everyone I know about that.
And as for me wanting to take care of my business myself and not have to depend on disability or other tax payer's dollars, indeed, I'd much rather take care of myself. I'm darn near a disabled point and if I'm able to get meds, I can function. How come there's nothing that we can do about this???
lemongrass
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nihil
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Reged: 09/15/03
Posts: 70
Loc: New England
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Quote:
Precisely, IMSUSCOT1! It's so true! If you are in legitimate pain, you don't get that euphoric feeling!
That's not completely true. If you take enough of it you WILL feel the high. It's just that if you take the prescribed dose (or enough just to completely smooth out the pain) that you won't feel the euphoria. In any case, what does it matter if you get the euphoria or not? There's nothing negative about that aspect.
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padmakara
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Reged: 09/16/03
Posts: 136
Loc: Chiang Mai
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Well, I have to take a stand here for full on legalization, based on a couple of things.
I think drugs like heroin and methamphetamine are more dangerous in their uncontrolled, black market form, heavily cut and containing dangerous impurities like heavy metals because low-grade reagents were used in the synthesis, than in their pharmaceutical grade form. I think they are much, much more dangerous actually. And with dirty needles, people crushing up pills with insoluble components and dissolving them in tap water to inject, using pharmaceuticals are more dangerous than they have to be for the addict. I've known people who tried to shoot vicodin! They should make injectable solution OTC I say, the addicts I know would live a lot longer life.
And the other huge problem with addiction, where people spend all of their money on their chosen substance, even sometimes rent or stolen money, would be avoided if the cost was cheap. A bottle of oxy 20s should be five bucks.
They should spread truth, and incourage safe usage if there is going to be usage. A safe environment should be supplied if necessary. NO ONE has the right to tell me what I can and can't put in my body!!!
I've had addict friends. I've watched a guy chew up six 80mg oxy's and down it with a large glass of wine and a marinol, while he was wearing two fentanyl patches. My other friend shoots up as much as 160 mg IV. Crazy people. They would have been addicts no matter what. But I've never fell into a serious habit like that. I've had plenty of chances. Many drugs are very available to me. Its a choice. (note, recently, I've been taking opioids orally for pain from some probs) Addiction will control itself. Not everyone is an alcoholic.
The only problem I can see is how irresponsible most people are. But I can't stand seeing someone put black tar herion in their veins! Or tap water with no salt! Ewwww! And paying 20$ to do it too. Just crazy.
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lemongrass
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Reged: 09/23/03
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Loc: IL
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Hi, padmakara.
Listen, I know this might sound strange, but one of the reasons our government won't put pure and safe drugs out there for addicts is because the addict is looked upon as a menace to society. They know the life expectancy of an addict is significantly low, so why help an addict live longer? Why help an addict with low costs for their dope? The government doesn't want these people living comfortablly. These are not my views, but what I've heard discussed amongst those who have addictions. I think it's safe to say that most of us have encountered addiction among our friends, family, or even ourselves, so having these type of conversations is not unheard of.
Although drug addiction is reaching masses no longer categorized as the poor and disadvantaged, it is mostly prevalent among communities that are poverty stricken. Sure, you'll have your handful of addicts in that nice, suburban community, but in a rural, city area, you'll find an addict in just about every home. I said just about. There are families who fight the outside temptations. Very rare does that happen when you are brought up to know nothing more. But who do you think makes these communities that way? Our own government!
Believe it or not, our government has its hand in everything, even the street drugs. You must have had this conversation with your friends...yes...no? So, our government helps put the drugs out there, in poverty sticken neighborhoods, but our governement isn't willing to help the addict find safer, more cost-effective drugs. Think about the whole, big picture. Tell me what you see.
lemongrass
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MrOrange
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Reged: 12/18/01
Posts: 261
Loc: West
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This site will clear up some questions of the origins of drug prohibition:
http://www.cedro-uva.org/lib/levine.secret.html
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nihil
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Reged: 09/15/03
Posts: 70
Loc: New England
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Also check out this article: Make Heroin Legal
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