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Re: Can the government view your med records
      09/08/04 08:00 PM

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... "patriot act" they can view ANYTHING!




Every time this country goes to "war" civil liberties get eroded. It's a historical fact. Whether it was interning Japanese without any due process, or the "drug exception" to the Bill of Rights, or the Patriot Act ... it's all the same.

HIPAA was enacted before 9/11 and the Patriot Act, but it took a few years for its regulations to be issued and for the law to take effect. Before 9/11, HIPAA already had two broad exclusions for its medical privacy protections: 1) criminal investigations, and 2) national security.

There's a national security exception found in many laws that were enacted since the 1940s. It's nothing new. It all goes back to WWII and the Communist witch hunts of the McCarthy era and it lasted all through the Cold War. In the name of national security they can do almost anything they want ... especially these days. Back after Watergate and Nixon's abuses of power, the pendulum swung the other way and we got things like FOIA and the Privacy Act. The pendulum has now reversed.

So yes, the government (federal, state, and local) can get all your medical records if they say it's for a criminal investigation (of you, your doctor, pharmacy, or anyone).

And if they say it's for national security, the federal government can get anyone's records. If they get a FISA warrant, they can search your home in secret, and secretly install a bug on your computer.

They do not have to tell you that they have your records. If you do a Privacy Act request, they don't have to tell you that they have anything.

On the positive side, even with all that ... i don't know of any country that has better protections of civil rights than the U.S. How many countries have anything like our Bill of Rights? Few or none. Of the ones that have something like it, how many really follow their own laws?

If anyone knows a country with better protections than the U.S., please let us know.

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* Can the government view your med records kimbell1 09/01/04 12:13 AM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records Trampy   09/01/04 08:54 AM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records t_oshan2003   09/01/04 10:21 AM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records Trampy   09/08/04 08:00 PM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records neonsign2003   11/05/04 03:28 AM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records moonshade   11/05/04 06:07 AM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records JasonG   11/05/04 06:50 AM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records purppoptart   09/12/04 10:37 AM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records SuseCue   09/12/04 12:51 PM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records rockystuart   11/05/04 08:50 AM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records MetsFan   11/05/04 12:35 PM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records moonshade   11/05/04 05:29 PM
. * * I read police not responsible for your safety kimbell1   11/04/04 10:30 PM
. * * Re: I read police not responsible for your safety neonsign2003   11/05/04 03:20 AM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records ikestormu11   09/08/04 09:44 PM
. * * You are thinking of Vermont kimbell1   09/14/04 05:54 PM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records Trampy   09/08/04 10:02 PM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records flippie   09/08/04 09:50 PM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records Stardog   09/08/04 09:57 PM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records flippie   09/08/04 10:16 PM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records Stardog   09/08/04 10:22 PM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records flippie   09/08/04 10:32 PM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records oldandwise   09/15/04 07:21 AM
. * * I could not agree more kimbell1   09/14/04 06:03 PM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records Trampy   09/08/04 11:40 PM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records dman22   09/09/04 12:47 AM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records Stardog   09/09/04 05:56 AM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records flippie   09/09/04 06:05 AM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records Trampy   09/08/04 10:14 PM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records flippie   09/08/04 10:20 PM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records lolajones   09/12/04 01:32 PM
. * * Re: Can the government view your med records purppoptart   09/01/04 04:14 AM
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