galadude
Newbie
Reged: 01/08/05
Posts: 44
Loc: CA
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I'm a VIP and I would like to warn everyone about MyOnlyPharmacy and MxPharma and all these shady mex pharmacies. These scammers do not deliver!! They are in all likelyhood connected and or run by the same person or persons. These scammers are also posting phony "excellent service" posts on this board in hopes of luring people into ordering from them. They do not deliver! They are quick to take your money, make excuses for a while about why you have not received your order, and then stop responding to your emails altogether. DO NOT ORDER FROM THESE WEBSITES!! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!
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Murple
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Reged: 09/12/02
Posts: 325
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These scammers are also posting phony "excellent service" posts on this board in hopes of luring people into ordering from them.
That's a pretty common tactic with the internet grey market (international pharmacies, herbal supplement companies, GHB vendors back when that was legal). Always has been, unfortunately.
Not implying anything, but I also want to point out that it also goes the other way. By this I mean not only do companies use shills (fake "satisfied customer") to get themselves good reputations, but some companies also will use fake personas to go around and try to discredit their competitors by saying they got ripped off, etc.
You should listen to people's reports of scams and people who say they are happy with companies, but keep in mind who's posting... if you dont know them, dont take their info as seriously as people who's names you recognize. Thats just common sense. But also, look for telltale signs, like if someone says "I got ripped off by this pharmacy" and then says "...so I'm sticking with this other pharmacy from now on" that should make you wonder. Could be a legit complaint, but, you just have to use your judgement.
When I used IOPs, I had a policy where I'd always put in one or two test orders where I'd get the minimum amount of something tame like penicillin. If I got the stuff and was satisfied with the customer service, then I'd consider a "real" order. But still, I always kept orders small because sometimes good OPs go bad, and sometimes they get shut down, and sometimes mail is seized. Best not to risk your money or fredom by sending 300 bucks to some IOP for Xanax and have them take the money or have Customs show up asking why you're ordering that much Xanax.
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guru538
Stranger
Reged: 08/07/03
Posts: 3
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i have to say, I am no "shill", have ordered from MOP twice, and have received what I requested in a quick fashion both times. I think some people just have good luck or bad, depending on the time period and perhaps what is being ordered. Anyway,just wanted to put that out there--I am not a fake poster, just someone who joined this list to get info regarding OP's.
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kornflake
Journeyman
Reged: 02/25/04
Posts: 70
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So let me get this straight. I should listen to you (a member of 2 months) because you are a VIP ? And that anyone who posts good results from these pharmacies is a shill? I have received both orders from mxpharma within 4 days from when I ordered them and I received all of my orders (over 15) from mexrx and I sure as hell am not involved with any pharmacies other than as a customer. 
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MRNUTTY
Banned. Found out to be Moderator at OP4L
Reged: 12/15/03
Posts: 485
Loc: east coast. USA
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kornflake: actually if you've belonged to 'boards' or 'forums' and such, you know you shouldn't listen to anyone 
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macmac
Journeyman
Reged: 08/07/04
Posts: 81
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I have to Agree with you 100 % always using common sense is the best way to go, as same thing happened to me with several OP, just because of the posts I see on the board and especially when a site with customer service pretends to post in also raises a flag and I see this almost every week with different OP and specially without mentioning the site name from the posts lately on one site explain exactly what you are trying to say about MOP and others.
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Murple
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kornflake: actually if you've belonged to 'boards' or 'forums' and such, you know you shouldn't listen to anyone
Best advice so far! None of us know who the other people here REALLY are. Its probably safe to assume that posters on this forum include law enforcement agents and shills for OPs, as well as honest well meaning people who may have had bad luck once or twice and thought some legit OP was a scam. Most people here are probably honest and give good info, but, you can't be sure, so you need to trust your instincts and experience. Never blindly take anybody's advice here, including mine.
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galadude
Newbie
Reged: 01/08/05
Posts: 44
Loc: CA
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"So let me get this straight. I should listen to you (a member of 2 months) because you are a VIP ?"
No, you can do whatever the heck you want. I've been a member for a mere two months so don't listen to me. However, if I have been scamming people for two years and no one has suspected me why should I leave? They prey on the newbies, do you mind if I warn people about these places? Obviously you do. Keep ignoring the fact that far more people are being scammed by this place than not. What do you care as long as your getting your stuff right?
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macmac
Journeyman
Reged: 08/07/04
Posts: 81
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I believe you misunderstood my post, what I was trying to say I agree with your post not disputing about what you had mentioned about the fake posts, and as far being a VIP member, I will like to ask did every one just started on the VIP board, probably most of the people they just start on the free board, and If I wanted to put my post on the VIP I would done so, it s jus a shame when you post on a subject and I am not defending any OP nor IOP as it all fall on the hand of the buyers as they whish to order form where ever they feel comfortable.
And : What do you care as long as your getting your stuff right, if I am getting my stuff I won't reply to your post
Peace
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scarrlett
Board Addict
Reged: 02/02/04
Posts: 332
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Macmac, I'm not trying to speak for him, but I think Galadude was replying to Kornflake.
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galadude
Newbie
Reged: 01/08/05
Posts: 44
Loc: CA
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Yeah, I was responding to kornflake.
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macmac
Journeyman
Reged: 08/07/04
Posts: 81
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Thanks Galadude,
I just seen your reply with my name on it, just wanted to clear things up, not big deal.
But I stil stand behind your first post when we see a member just registerd praising a site where we all know
of what is going on almost, we just have to keep our eyes open.
Peace
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frost1003
Member
Reged: 09/21/04
Posts: 129
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i do some researh on the site before i order (whois). than, if people from other states and countries are replying deliver, i'll order some small test order and keep it at that. try to use a good credit card for those non-deliveries. i have had my first non-delivery and am doing a charge back by PAT.
frost
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ellen1
Enthusiast
Reged: 07/03/02
Posts: 242
Loc: N. Calif.
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You may want to be careful about wholesale chargebacks. Chargebacks whould only be done in the rarest of circumstances, if at all. It should not be a regular part of your online ordering tools. It is NOT the proper response to a seizure. Seizure is not the responsibility of the OP. It's the chance we all take. Some OPs reship, some don't. But the reputable ones will tell up up front what they do--and you have to accept that. And the non-reputable ones..well, you shouldn't be doing business wth them.
Many of us NEVER chargeback. It should ONLY be done to a company that is deliberately scamming you, not because of a seizure. So, if it IS deliberate scamming, you should have known from the beginning that it was a big risk.....and NOT ordered. If you chargeback a normally good company you are doing damage not only to yourself, but to many others who order from that company. Here's some anti-chargeback reasons:
1) It will raise YOUR profile with cc companies--as one who often makes risky purchases. It may even raise your profile with the law, if you live in a conservative area. Not worth the risk.
2)If you're charging back because of a seizure, that's not fair to the company. YOU knew the risks going in. You run the risk of the company never doing business with you again (as has happened to some members).What if they're the only OP who carries what you need? Not worth the risk.
3)Some of these guys know eachother and you might be blackballed.(I've not heard of this happening..yet). Not worth the possible risk.
4)The cc company may then blackball the OP or IOP, thus making it harder for those of us who use that OP. In one case, we used to just use WU online. But an overeager customer chargedback(because of a non-delivery--seizure), and now we have to go to WU In Person, to buy from that company. Western Union and MoneyGram both have blackballed IOPs.Not worth the risk of getting everyone mad at you.
5) No one has a moral right to chargeback in these circumstances. You (and all of us) are not standing on the highest of moral grounds here. Certainly not higher than a reputable IOP-who is on legal grounds in his own country.
6)Again --profile raising. Any publicity--or noticeability--in this area is bad. Very Bad. Not only for you, but for all of us.
Anyone else want to contribute reasons why a chargeback is a Very Bad Idea??
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Murple
Board Addict
Reged: 09/12/02
Posts: 325
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Yeah, people who do chargebacks for seized or otherwise legitimately lost orders are just as bad as scammers. They ruin things for everybody by drawing attention to legitimate sources, as well as drawing attention to themselves. If youre playing around on the black or grey market, two cardinal rules are accept the nature of the business and its inherent risks, and dont draw attention to yourself or others. If you want guarantees then find some health insurance, a sympathetic local doctor, and start buying your meds at Walgreens or CVS.
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JimsGal
Newbie
Reged: 06/13/04
Posts: 27
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I don't post a lot on here, but do read and listen alot. I guess I've been lucky so far as to never receiving my order, love letters, etc. I've found sources over the net that are never talked about on any of the forums such as this, that have given me better service and prices. Yes, you do take a chance when you order from any of these people. So my advise would be read listen and learn from your personal mistakes.
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SandyFeet
Member
Reged: 03/21/04
Posts: 169
Loc: By the ocean
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Ellen, I couldnt agree more.
Personally, I do not like to use my revolving CC for OP services. I know some folks may not have cash on hand, but really for IOPs the cash is relatively small, the interest on such a small purchase is just not worth it to me. I think WU or cash (COD) is safer and offers more anonymity. I also agree a chargeback should be used as a last resort; this will definitely bring unwanted attention.
For most purchases I make, including general shopping, it is cash and carry. I have one revolving CC that I use only for emeregencies.
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nubaine
Newbie
Reged: 12/02/04
Posts: 29
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myonly is legit. they have three shipping schedules depending on when you send them the money. but you will get your meds and in a timely fashion. and mention you are from here you get a 10% discount and if VIP get 15% discount.
i have done a lot of orders with him and every time is gone successfull. i have also generated alot of business for them that has been good as well. it is a dependable site and if you would, go rate them a higher star then they are getting on here.
at first they were having problems with timely deliveries.. but that is mexico and they did actually have some bad hurricanes and floods to deal with. plus they ship out of USA so give them the benefit of the doubt. i have been asked to post on here by them for them, but i am doing it mainly to help any of you on here out, if you have any questions or problems that i could possibly help you with, since i have been doing business with them for such a long period of time now.
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macmac
Journeyman
Reged: 08/07/04
Posts: 81
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I stand also behind Nubaine post, every one just jump into conclusion on lots of IOP, OP where we all ordered from Mexican sites one day or other and now other site having problems with delivery, not mentioning the name, where orders are taken over a month with no delivery and no one saying any thing but just things happen, I wonder who is posting the truth about any of these posts, where we all shop for the best price and delivery because we don't have insurance and I havent seen a site yet that never had a problem with delivery once a wile, But I do compare prices that MOP offer that fit my budget and I am posting from my own experience as I have no clue about the reality of any other posts, but that is the risk we all take when ordering online and I can name few of the problems I had read on the board, from shipper problems, out of stuck, delivery delay ( BIR ) double charged for COD orders and the list goes on and on, where I believe most of these info should be kept private. And I am not asking any one to order from cretin site and ignore the others, but it make no since at all almost every week or so I read such site XXX is the best and the week after the post change to it is the worse site, just commend sense which I believe if you have trouble with a site then you can use the site Admin of the board
To contact the site instead of all the mix posts where one says I received the best service and the other say the opposite.
Also I keep seeing almost same members one day they claims xxx site is the best and the next day the same site is the worst, how any body can make any judgment overnight that such a site is a rip off without reading the history of the posters and the site history, and it free discussion on sites accuracy but how can any one compare a site that claim they deliver in a week and the week turn to a month and on the other hand another site is trying hard to make it get all the bad post because they didnt get their order in few days where other site claim they deliver in the same time frame and you end up waiting for a month at least with excuses from on place claim they had bank problems, shipper problems and no one post any thing bad about it, I like ordering from Mexican sites that deliver rather than placing an order from a site which they claim they deliver fast until you place your order and we start with the wait game.
Maybe the site should best ten sites every week on delivery, communication and products so we know for sure the information posted is accurate.
Poster: nubaine
Subject: Re: MyOnlyPharmacy and MxPharma
myonly is legit. they have three shipping schedules depending on when you send them the money. but you will get your meds and in a timely fashion. and mention you are from here you get a 10% discount and if VIP get 15% discount.
i have done a lot of orders with him and every time is gone successfull. i have also generated alot of business for them that has been good as well. it is a dependable site and if you would, go rate them a higher star then they are getting on here.
at first they were having problems with timely deliveries.. but that is mexico and they did actually have some bad hurricanes and floods to deal with. plus they ship out of USA so give them the benefit of the doubt. i have been asked to post on here by them for them, but i am doing it mainly to help any of you on here out, if you have any questions or problems that i could possibly help you with, since i have been doing business with them for such a long period of time now.
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galadude
Newbie
Reged: 01/08/05
Posts: 44
Loc: CA
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Nope, Tahio is not Mexican! Con-Artist and a Half!! Legit is relative, legit what? Unreliable and selective scammer at best, most likely scum. Phony posters and all.
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jollyroger
Stranger
Reged: 02/10/04
Posts: 8
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Agreed, Tahio is at best a totally incompetent a$$. At worst a malicious, c0cky, selective scammer without shame.
And yes after two months of "its on its way," other people's tracking orders, and finally no responses, I have pulled my head out and kissed my $$ goodbye.
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noktern
Journeyman
Reged: 09/07/03
Posts: 79
Loc: Rohan
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not mexican? did i miss something?
really, fill me in
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dicta
Stranger
Reged: 03/15/05
Posts: 19
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Tahio is the Mexican jerk ... there is another one in addition to him who makes all these phony posts here
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radiometer
Board Addict
Reged: 12/10/03
Posts: 361
Loc: California
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i have also generated alot of business for them that has been good as well...i have been asked to post on here by them for them, but i am doing it mainly to help any of you on here out, if you have any questions or problems that i could possibly help you with, since i have been doing business with them for such a long period of time now.
Would that make you a representative of MOP then, I guess?
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al2
Stranger
Reged: 09/19/04
Posts: 23
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SO lets get this straight....its.. Tahio/Athio/Whatever arrangement of letters the imbecile can be [censored] to type/De La Rosa/nubaine..... so far?
...or are there more i don't know about???
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al2
Stranger
Reged: 09/19/04
Posts: 23
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i have also generated alot of business for them that has been good as well... i have been asked to post on here by them for them, but i am doing it mainly to help any of you on here out,
History has proven it has neither been good or helpful to people on balance
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myonly is legit. they have three shipping schedules depending on when you send them the money. but you will get your medsand in a timely fashion. and mention you are from here you get a 10% discount and if VIP get 15% discount.
it is a dependable site
LEGIT?? TIMELY?? DEPENDABLE??...MOP??
Not in this life time they aren't...
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and if you would, go rate them a higher star then they are getting on here
OK then.
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downtownlee
Stranger
Reged: 01/26/05
Posts: 14
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I just found this and thought some of you might think it is interesting. They have the same products and prices as MOP.
There's a new forum about it under abacusonlinegrp.com.
They are new and people are making their first small "test" orders and receiving excellent customer service and quick delivery.
Look familiar to anyone else?
I do hope that DB has checked into them to see if they are somehow connected with MOP, sure looks like it to me.
I ordered from MOP, 1st order went fine, got scammed on the 2nd. Asked for mediation and NAUGHT!
What interests me the most is that the product I orderd is extrememly hard to find and the quantity and price shown are EXACTLY what MOP had and I have NEVER seen this quantity offered before by ANY OTHER OP, NROP or IOP!
There are NO phone numbers listed, NO address. You have to go thru the process of placing an order and THEN you will receive instructions on how to pay. There is an email address listed but that's it.
DRUGBUYERS.COM....I think you need to do some more checking here and let us know what the deal is.
abacusonlinegrp.com OR IS IT THE NEW AND IMPROVED "MOP"??????
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downtownlee
Stranger
Reged: 01/26/05
Posts: 14
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Link to new forum on freeboard about abacusonlinegrp.com.
https://drugbuyers.com/freeboard/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=246491
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