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SusanB123
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Please help me.........
I went to the walk in clinic with a migraine, I could not get into my regular doctor. I told the nurse I needed norco. After letting me sit in the room for 2 hours the doctor came in with a list of medications that I have filled in the past.
He questioned me, making me feel like some sort of criminal. I have gotten meds. from the clinic when I couldnt see my regular doc. Never have I gotten a new script before the old one ran out. All he was looking at was how many I had gotten, he didnt take the time to notice that there was no double dipping.
Then he told me he would give me the medicine this time but......I stopped him and told him I would rather be in pain than treated like a criminal.
So now here I sit with a pounding head, too scared to ask for help.
I feel like I was being spyed on, have I done anything wrong?
I really dont care what he thinks of me, I will never go back there for help. But, I would not want my regular doc to think I was doing anything illegal
What do they do with these list, will it be sent to my doc or am I on a red flag list forever.
Thank you for any help you can give me.
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You have done nothing wrong, the shame of it is they see the list you have and automatically say "Drug Abuser" and I see it everyday where I work.
It's really to bad people with legit chronic pain are always put in the drug abuser section, I get totally disgusted with it and have almost lost my job over saying so several times.
If you still have pain, go back to that clinic with your head up high and state why you are there and you want to be treated, it's your right and you also have the right to be treated with respect and if you feel like you are not, then tell them this is why I'm here, I know what medications I have taken in the past, I know what works and there is no need to explain to me what I have taken, I already know and in no way is that helping with the problem at hand.
Remember keep your head up high, it's not you it's our society, you deserve respectful treatment, like any person.
As for you Doc, I would explain to him/her the way you was treated and ask if he has a solution to this problem, ie: calling clinic explaining to them that you are under on going treatment for your medical problem and if you need to go in there here is a recommended treatment that he uses, they can attach that note to your file.
Goodluck and stay strong.
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SusanB123
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Thank you for responding to me, I didnt think I did anything wrong. But, I felt so scared I was not sure. He never actually showed me the list and now I am wondering just what was on it.
I knew any such list ever existed. Do doctors run your name all the time? Someone else told me its just the ones who have been in trouble before. I am just really upset that if I go for tretment some other time I am going to be red flagged. Do they share the list, or will it stay with the doctor that ran my name?
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First, I am so sorry this happened.
I would be willing to bet this is more about them covering themselves then a judgement on you..
HIPAA? what a joke.
I don't know a few things...did you go to the clinic that employs your doctor, but see another one because your doctor was not in? Are they connected by your insurance, or anything else you can think of?
It is discouraging when you have taken good care to be responsible with your pain relief and this happens....I have another thought.... Is it possible that some of your refills were called in, to oh, say "helpful Walgreens," and they contacted the doc? They are not supposed to, but they do, all the time. If you could lay things out a little clearer, without compromising your security, we might be able to offer you a more informed opinion.
Welcome to the board, again sorry that you are going thru this.
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SusanB123
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No, my doctor is not employeed at the clinic. This list he had, he said was a list of all my meds. He asked me who my dentist is. I have 15 pain pills from a root canal last Febuary. He asked me about my family doc and a few I have never heard of. Its the the names I didnt recgonize that concern me. Are the police going to show up at my door. Am I on a DEA list, I know I am getting pranoid but, I dont know what to think.
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It is really sad that we have this incorrect document of our lifes. I have had similar experience's and it is something that stays with you. It is wrong. If you were seeing 2-3 doctors a day, that is a different story, and I have heard of that going on. I have had 27 surgery's in the last 6 years, and yes my drug sheet would be scarey to look at, but it shouldn't shame me like I had a doctor do one time. I now suffer with Chronic pain, and if I have a take a pain med for it, but if I go for surgery, or an accident, or an emergency, that prescription doesn't really apply to what has been done to me at the time. The thing that really bothers me about this so called "list" is it isn't the true representation of what is going on with an individual.
Last week I severed the tendon in my thumb, had to have surgery to attach the tendon, and I went to the emergency room that I always go too, and I know they look at the "list" and think you are a druggie. Guess what, I should have gotten morphine, but I got Hydro's 7.5 which is asprin for brain surgery. I know they look and think you just want the drugs. I almost told them I didn't want anything?
I apologize for venting, but I would like to cut a finger of a few doc's and then treat them the way they treat their patients. We live in a great time for illness and disease, but the doctors are afraid to properly treat pain, and some doctors are just getting it.
Again, I apologize but I know what you are saying because I live in that same fear every month that someone is looking at me for having to take pain meds. That is part of why I am here to avoid this whole thing with the doctors.
Sorry again and good luck?
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SusanB123
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So, is someone looking at the "list" everytime I go for treatment? I dont like the sounds of that at all. And even more are they sharing what they "think" they know.
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emtp3
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I can't see how they can see a list unless it's just the list of meds prescibed from that clinic and is on your file, as for what your Doctor or any other Doc that is not working out of that clinic it is just about impossible they would have what they have prescribed.
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Susan- If the doctor recited a list of meds previously prescribed to you, and some were NOT prescribed at that clinic, then you most likely live in a state that has a prescription monitoring database.
Doctors and pharmacists have access to this , and can see what meds you have gotten in the past, in that state.
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Wow , I am with you guys that Blows Chunks! They are more worried about losing their license than the patients quality of life. That Sucks! Good luck! SusanB
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SusanB123
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Not only were they not from that clinic, a few of them I never even heard of. Now I am wondering, whats on my "secret list". He named a few docs I have never seen before. Is it like my credit report? Where accounts show up that I have never opened. But, my big question is will my other doctors be sent a copy of this?
Does anybody know how this whole system works?????
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I, unfortunately, cannot help you with more information on some "database", but I am so sorry you went through that experience. I also experience Migraines and it seems as though some docs understand and empathize, others think it is "in your head" (no pun intended--ha ha!) It is a real matter of luck as to what kind of care you will receive. Please keep all of us up to date on what other information you find out throughout this experience. I just cannot imagine that with HIPPA they (multiple doctors) could share your health related information ethically or legally.
Best of luck...hope you do not have another Migraine for a long time!
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Don't be scared, and mad doesn't help, unless it makes you do something because of it (constructively). You can ignore it, or go back and ask about it, being a concerned patient about what is in your record. Good Luck, and DON'T be scared!!
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Last year I almost die do to a ER room doctor telling me it was all in my head I and she wasn't going to give me more pain shots well it was not helping anyway why would I want one more I wanted them to fined out why I was in that pain
They told me they did not hand stomach pain and I just wanted meds to go home well hubby had to carry me out I cloud not even walk that was after 4 shots of morphine
Come to find out by going to another ER I was having a trouble perganency
And end up on life support now that first ER gives me any thing I want
They should first get you out of pain then fined out what help you need
Even if you are there just to get drugs because you are or are about to go in to withdraws
You are still in pain they should give you what you need then when you can think agene help you get the help they think you need I know if I was going their just for meds I would listen to the doctor tell I need help a lot more if I wasn’t in withdraws
And if the doctor showed he or she cared about me and not treating me like I was a bad person I couldn’t pleave the way the doctor was acting that day here I am in so much pain I had to call 911 my baby fo7und me laying on the floor scramming from pain
They give me shot after shot and I am still the seam and they just want to acted like on drugs you go to them at your worst time and they treat you like that it is not right at all!
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If I read your post correctly you denied the script. Your alot like me, i'll show them, i'll hurt me......
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Quote:
I, unfortunately, cannot help you with more information on some "database", I just cannot imagine that with HIPPA they (multiple doctors) could share your health related information ethically or legally.
They can share what meds they have dispensed, but not the reason for it, or the diagnosis, etc.
And it's legal. Sorry, I don't agree with it either, but Hippa laws don't apply here, IF she lives in a state that has passed the prescription database law.
Just do a search on the web for "prescription monitoring database states". You'll be able to find if your state participates in it or not. And you will also see how many states are doing it now. Alot.
Sorry, unfortunate, and like I said I don't agree with it, but it's legal. I really would make it a priority to find out if your state has this plan/law.
That would answer most of your questions.
As far as the doctors names that you didn't recognize being read, got me there ?
Maybe contact your state, and find out exactly how or if, you can get a printout of this database they have on you.
Not sure if it's possible.
This is all just going on the presumption you live in one of these states. Really, please check and see- you can find out on the internet.
If you do not live in one of these states, then something funny's going on, and that's a whole other story.
But that's a big risk for that doctor to have taken, reading off a list of meds you have been rx-ed , all from different doctors, unless he knew he was protected.
Which is what leads me to believe you live in a prescription monitoring database state.
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More info- Toward the bottom they list the states that do it, or are about to.
States get feds' help with Rx monitoring
More than 90% of all physicians soon could be practicing in a state with prescription monitoring.
By Andis Robeznieks, AMNews staff. Nov. 1, 2004.
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In a federal budget totaling $2 trillion, a $16.5 million program might seem like a drop in the ocean. To cash-strapped state governments, however, receiving their share of this pool of money has made a huge difference in getting programs to monitor prescriptions for drugs of potential abuse up and running.
The first such program was started by California in 1939, but the rest of the country was slow to follow suit. Now the roster of monitoring states is rapidly growing, thanks in part to the federal prescription-monitoring grant program that has allocated $16.5 million between 30 states over the last three years.
"While it took 60 years to establish the first 15 programs, seven new programs will be up and running just three years after the Harold Rogers prescription drug-monitoring program was created," said Leslie Cupp, communications director for U.S. Rep. Harold Rogers (R, Ky.), the congressman who started the program. "That's nearly a 50% increase attributable to this program."
The competitive grant program directs money to states for starting or planning new programs or for enhancing existing ones. The grants cannot be used to operate a program.
In Rogers' home state, there is support for the Kentucky All-Schedule Prescription Electronic Reporting, which was started in 1999. "We have resolutions and policy to expand the program when revenue becomes available," said Marshall E. White III, Kentucky Medical Assn. director of public and governmental relations.
Next year's funding undetermined
In 2004, 23 states and the Alexandria, Va.-based National Alliance for Model State Drug Laws split $6.9 million in federal grants. In 2003, nine states and the NAMSDL divided up a $2.85 million pool. Funding for 2005 remains in question, Cupp said. The House approved $10 million for the program, but the Senate has provided no funding at all.
A lack of funding could put a significant crimp in states' efforts to monitor prescribing.
California started the first system for prescription monitoring in 1939.
"For any issue, one of the first things we hear is, 'Who's going to fund it?' " said Larry Lewis, aide to New Jersey Assemblyman Herb Conaway, MD, sponsor of his state's monitoring bill. "We've had back-to-back billion-dollar deficits, so, with federal grants, people are more receptive."
Medical Society of New Jersey spokesman John Schaffer said the MSNJ had not formulated an opinion on Dr. Conaway's bill yet, explaining that it thinks preventing doctor-shopping by drug abusers is a good idea, but having the state play "big brother" and watching over physicians' prescribing histories might not be.
Cupp said 22 states would have programs in place by the end of 2004, but three more also could start programs if pending legislation gets approved.
U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration spokesman Rusty Payne said about 59% of all doctors and 56% of pharmacies operate under monitoring programs. He said these figures could grow to 92% and 91% if states that have received grants or introduced monitoring bills start programs.
Nevada program praised, copied
Initiated in 1995, Nevada's program is operated by the state pharmacy board and is often copied as a model by smaller states. Las Vegas internist and Nevada State Medical Assn. President-elect Warren H. Evins, MD, said this was a good idea because his state's program had been effective and helpful, particularly during his part-time urgent care duties at a local hospital.
"In urgent care, I'm seeing people I've never seen before. Many of them want controlled substances, and I'm interested in their history and usage," Dr. Evins said.
If he requests a patient's prescribing profile, Dr. Evins said other physicians listed on the profile are notified about the patient's attempts at doctor-shopping. "There's nothing that restricts the doctor from writing a prescription," he said. "I don't think it prevents legitimate patients from getting controlled substances."
AMA Council on Scientific Affairs Chair Melvyn Sterling, MD, who spoke at a program with DEA representatives at the AMA Annual Meeting in June, said there is no formal AMA policy on prescription monitoring but said he thought it should "remain under the purview" of doctors.
"It's almost a no-brainer. Law enforcement agents do not take courses in anatomy, physiology or pharmacology, they take courses in law enforcement," Dr. Sterling said. "Law enforcement should not be the primary oversight mechanism."
Amy Powell, deputy director of the National Alliance for Model State Drug Laws, said that when investigations do occur, prescription monitoring helps make them more discreet. "If there is an investigation, law enforcement doesn't have to go to the local ma-and-pa pharmacy and -- for lack of a better phrase -- make a scene," she said.
The nation's most heated prescription-monitoring battleground state has been Florida, where legislation has been blocked three times.
Pain patient and privacy advocates helped stall this year's monitoring bill despite strong political support from Gov. Jeb Bush and financial support from two Harold Rogers grants and money from OxyContin manufacturer Purdue Pharma. The Florida Medical Assn. initially opposed monitoring, but legislators have worked with the group to eliminate its objections, said FMA Director of Governmental Affairs Francesca Plendl.
"It's not something we're working on to get passed, it's something we're trying to make into a good bill that we're OK with it passing," Plendl said. "Still, you can't get past the basic tenet that there will be a large amount of health care information kept in a database controlled by the state. Libertarian types don't like that, and I don't blame them."
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Grants help expand Rx monitoring
Former Drug Enforcement Administration Administrator Asa Hutchinson's March 2002 call for all 50 states to develop prescription-monitoring programs did not appear to be met with much enthusiasm by cash-strapped state governments. But with the help of $16.5 million in grants from the federal Harold Rogers Prescription Monitoring Program, the number of states with such programs could nearly double.
States with existing programs: California, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Michigan, Nevada, New York, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington and West Virginia
States with new programs: Alabama, Iowa, Maine, Mississippi, New Mexico, Tennessee and Wyoming
States that received grants but haven't started programs: Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Kansas, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Oregon and South Carolina
Note: Virginia and Washington have partial programs.
Source: DEA
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Not unanimous on national database
The U.S. House of Representatives not only approved $10 million to fund the Harold Rogers prescription-monitoring grant program in 2005, it also passed the National All Schedules Prescription Electronic Reporting Act to create a national database -- supported by individual state databases -- to track all narcotic prescriptions.
At least one congressman is strongly opposed to the measure.
"By creating a national database of prescriptions for controlled substances, the federal government would take another step forward in the war on pain patients and their doctors," Rep. Ron Paul, MD (R, Texas), said on the House floor Oct. 5.
"Once doctors know that there is a national database of controlled substances prescriptions that overzealous law enforcement will be scrutinizing to harass doctors, there may be no doctors left who are willing to treat chronic pain," Dr. Paul said.
Both measures are now awaiting Senate action.
The American Medical Association has not taken a position on the legislation.
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I am so sorry this happened to you. A similiar thing happened to me awhile back and made me feel the same way. I have been seeing my DR for degenarative disc disease and 2 hyrneated discs, she was perscribing me 120 7.5 hydros every month. Well my refill was up but my back wasnt bothering me so I didnt go in to see her that month. I woke up on a sunday morning with horrible tooth pain and went to urgent care to find out what was going on. Come to find out I had an absest (sp?) tooth that needed to be pulled, they perscribed me antibiotics and 15 lortabs 5/500. I go the the pharmacy I always use and the pharmacist was a complete b*%#@! She asked me if my Dr knew I was going to another dr to get pain meds. I told her there was no way I could get to my dr or dentist today so I had to go in. She gave me some lecture about seeing mulitple drs and told me she was going to call my dr! GRRRR! I decided to call my dr first and let her know what happened and what was going on. Well she said that after that she doesnt feel to comfortable giving me meds and she would send me to a pain managment center, witch my insurance wont cover much of! So now here I am using these OP's.
I think it is very sad that we are treated like this when we are suffering, its just not fair!
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if im not mistaken you can go to each and every pharmacy that you have had scripts filled at and ask for a printout of all the meds you have had filled there and it willshow the doctors name with it
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SusanB123
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Thank you all for all of your help. I have an appointment with a women's headache doctor, on Friday. I am hoping he can help me stop these migraines so, I never have to deal with this again.
Penzam, your right I did refuse the script becasue he made me feel like a criminal. I had a headach all night but, I
will bet the doc slept like a baby. I really showed him didnt I????
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Let's hope he really slept like a baby...waking up and crying every few hours!
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be sure to let your new doctor know what medicine works for you. Just my opinion
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States with existing prescription database monitoring programs: California, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Michigan, Nevada, New York, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington and West Virginia
States with new programs: Alabama, Iowa, Maine, Mississippi, New Mexico, Tennessee and Wyoming
States that received grants but haven't started programs: Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Kansas, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Oregon and South Carolina
Note: Virginia and Washington have partial programs.
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I'm sorry to hear that happened to you. I can relate. I have a female problem that I have had forever. My doc prescribes me 20 tylenol #3 each month. I have also been on and off pain medicine, Percocet for almost a year for a torn rotator cuff. Awhile back my neck went into severe spasms on a Saturday. By Monday I was in extreme pain and it was a holiday. I went to the ER and where they ask if you are on any medication I told them about the Tylenol #3, I wasn't on the percs at that time nor did I have any. Well...the doc (actually a PA) asked me why I just didn't take the codeine. I told her that my doc was very strict about it and it was a once a month refil. I also told her that I DID take a couple of them but they didn't work. Thats why I was there. She questioned me why it was written that way. Felt like I was getting the 3rd degree. I told her that I didn't know why, nor cared but that if I continued using them for my neck it was a waste as they didn't work and then I would be screwed when I needed them for my other problem. Honesty sometimes gets you nothing but grief. She ended up giving me Zanaflex and it worked like a charm. Shortly after that I went to the pharm to get my script for my female thing and they asked me if my doctor contacted me. I was confused and asked why. He said that my insurance company wrote my doctor a letter about all my scripts. I was blown away. I have always been honest with my GYNO, PC, and Ortho doc about the meds I am taking. My gyno and pc are from the same group so they share all info anyways, and the ortho doc sends everything to my pc..nothing to hide here. I was extremely ticked that my insurance red flagged me. My pharm thought nothing of it as he knows me and all my ailments. Sorry this is so long. It just seems as if nothing is private and we are guilty until proven innocent. Thanks for letting me vent. BTW.. I live in one of the states that monitor. Joejoeholly
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Next time your in this situation, why not try the ER instead of urgent care. First of all, they are required to treat pain adequately....it's a JACHO requirement and all hospitals need their JACHO accreditation. Secondly...they have an RN call a patient advocate...if you are in the ER and you are NOT being treated adequately for your pain, you ask to see the patient advocate...make your case and I assure you the morphine will flow....threaten the patient advocate with a JACHO compalint for inadquate treatment of pain...she'll get you the shot...I've used this route several times and it works 100% of the time....just a thought
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I recently had a terrible experience at the ER. I just moved to a new state, and while my regular physician was prescribing me a limited amount of hydro each month, I had my doctor records with me when I went to the ER, since my old doctor can no longer prescribe for me now that I am out of state. I didn't have the money to use an OP, so I went to the ER, since i knew they would treat me and bill me.
I was in terrible pain from my back and shoulder injuries, and although i had been taking my leftover hydro sparingly, I had run out. I waited two hours to see a so-called "doctor," who looked like he was about 20 years younger than me and acted in a completely cavalier manner. He came in, closed the door, and stood there with his handle on the door, said a few sentences about my problem with my back/shoulder, then opened the door to leave, saying he would prescribe me some Ibuprofen (!) and Flexeril. I told him I needed some pain medication, offered to show him my doctor's records, that i was new in town and hadn't yet gotten a regular physician. He said, "Oh well, you'll need to do that then, cause that's who should prescribe pain medication for you, not me." And walked out!
I sat there seething, then very carefully put my clothes back on (difficult with the pain) and limped out of there. One of the nurses said to me, "Where do you think you're going?" I said, "I'm leaving." She acted like i was trying to escape from a prison! I finally found the exit and got the hell out of there, so upset and angry I was crying. When i got home, there was a message from the triage nurse saying, your prescription for Ibuprofen and Flexeril is here if you want to come pick it up.
I immediately called back, told the nurse they could keep their stupid prescription, and that i wanted to speak to a Patient Advocate IMMEDIATELY. I explained the whole situation to this man, filed a complaint against the doctor, and told them I absolutely would not pay a cent for the supposed "treatment" I had received at their hospital. I told him that I had records from my old physician with me with my diagnosis and the course of treatment (pain medication) I had received, which the doctor refused to even look at. The Patient Advocate appeared to be very empathetic, agreed that I had received inadequate treatment, and that my complaint against the doctor would be investigated.
I then found another ER in my new town, went there, and had a completely different experience. The doctor looked at my records, checked out my current pain situation, and immediately wrote me a prescription for the same pain meds as well as some muscle relaxers.
It's been two weeks since then, and while I have received the bill from the second ER who treated me appropriately (which i will be happy to pay), I never got one from the first place. They obviously got it that I had been inappropiately treated by the doctor and know that if they bill me, I will dispute it.
Sorry for the long post - i just wanted to let people know, I used to be scared of doctors and of being labeled a "drug seeker," but after that experience, I KNEW i had been treated badly, and it changed me. Filing that complaint made me feel better than the pain meds I did receive from the second ER. I'm sick of being treated like a drug addict from these holier-than-thou a$$holes in a white coat, who have the power to help people but choose not to. I'm not afraid anymore. None of us should be afraid to file a complaint or refuse to pay for "services" that are useless to us. Don't be afraid to stick up for yourself when something like this happens to you! You deserve appropriate treatment for your pain!
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Wow, I wish I had thought about filing a complaint last summer at a hospital.
My story in brief: I was living with my new girlfriend in a new town 200 miles from where I had previously lived. I have had an ongoing kidney issue, wich has resulted in one sugery and still years of pain. I'm happy to still have both kidneys. I could not work one night due to sever pain from my side.. I had to leave work early and check into E.R. in so much pain I was crying. That time a doctor did a scan and told me I had a stone lodged, gave me some shots, and a script for 20 percocets... I had no insurance, so he sent me home after I thought over the option of an overnight bill. One week later after my script was out and I was back at work... it happened again, only worse.. I could barely walk.. My job was on the line, and I could barely see to drive from the tears in my eyes... I checked back into the same ER with the same complaints...
I was in shock as to what happened: A different doctor came in and asked me "whats the matter?" - As soon as I told him he scracthed his head looking puzzled and said "the previous doctor found nothing to explain your pain.." - Right away we had a heads-up strong disagreement! After a test he came to me and admited I had numerious small kidney stones in both kidneys and that I needed to seek a primary care doctor to prescribe pain meds for it.... I got a shot of Tromodol (which did help)- and NO 'scripts.. ' was again told that the previous ER visit they found nothing (the previous time I even seen the scans done- the guy that ran the scan showed me the stones on the computer, AND that doctor told me he seen them too)- They sent me home.. The next day they pain came back, I could not work.. I had NO insurance.. So, I did all I could.. I started calling around within 50 miles of where I lived to find a primary care doctor... Most doctors were not acepting new patients... The best I could find was the SAME doctor I had disagreed with in the ER room the night before- HE could get me in in a week- (naw).. Other than him, the closest I could get was over 5 weeks away for my first apointmet!!
I will spare you all the rest of the story... Lets just say that it's a new world out their. It sometimes does not matter if we have a medical reason or not... Some doctors could not care less. Some doctors will even lie.
In fact, Im starting to wonder if Doctoring 101 = Lie to the patient.
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D.F.
Fighting for the right to affordable & uncensored internet access for all
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nikkicat
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I am really upset about a number of things considered nanny laws like this one mentioned which would monitor precription narcotic with a national database. What can we do? Wouldn't the drug companies have a stake in this to stop it and I am sure they have a huge lobbying effort! WE have no problem with a women's right to choose why can't we have the right to choose to be pain free and be physically dependent on a narcotic if that is the only way to be pain free!
Basicly, any ideas on where to start to stop this legislation? What can we do and where can we go for more research?
Liberty my a**!
Nikki
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nikkicat
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Is there a list for using online pharmacies?
Thanks!
Nikki
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Reged: 08/06/02
Posts: 53
Loc: Midwest
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Why don't you ask for your records and send them to
an online physcian like NWW or YOD, or anyone of the OPs?
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