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phpeters87
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Re: U.S. CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION (Seizure) [Re: JasonG]
      #198889 - 11/08/04 10:14 AM

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Please don't be offended, but with one post I have to ask: Do You Work For MIB? We who are legit pain sufferers etc. are FORCED by our govt to take these ridiculously expensive/legal chances. You would know that if you were one of us. By our own health system-we have no choice. If a terrorist truly wants to hurt us, I doubt he'll bother to set a pill printing lab, get the rite solutions, numbers, sizes, official blister packs, copyrighted correct colored backing/plastic/foil, to send 30 hydro/val to some unsuspecting housewife in New Jersey. LOL. I just had a seizure by MIB from a safe iop, and I AM NOT considering my self saved from myself/ or a terrorist. That's exactly why this board exists, why the blacklist exists, and we share. I hope this brings you some enlightenment. Read the threads from people suffering far more than myself, and it should crystalize the need for iop/op's for you. I hope you have a good day. Anyone else?




No, I'm not a "MIB" (nonsense edited)

Also, it's quite easy to duplicate a pill, especially a generic. How hard is it to score a pill and stamp it with "Watson 853" and add a little Yellow dye? If money can be conterfeited, pills can be to at a far less expense.
Especially by well-funded terrorist groups. How hard would it be to take legit capsules of meds, empty out their contents and replace it with something really nasty and ship it out to unsuspecting consumers? Very easy.

My point is, you're taking a chance when ordering from an IOP - you don't know what type of standards are in place for cleanliness and quality control.

And its a stretch, but if someone wanted to setup a website offering Meds, it would be easy to do for terrorists or even the DEA in a sting.

The bottom line is, ordering from IOP's is a risk and illegal. If you get your meds confiscated or you get arrested, you have no one to blame but yourself.
Stop blaming your government and "the man" for your criminal activity - there is no difference buying illegally from an IOP than there is from a street dealer.
Again, if something like this were to happen, we would hear people wailing about "why didn't our government do something to protect us" from this.

And like buying from a street dealer, you don't know exactly what you are getting - there may be no quality control, no hygeine standards. Think about that before putting that pill, capsule or tablet in your mouth that came from some 3rd World country.

It's this type of activity that will get legit, NROP's here in the states shut down. And it's the type of activity that gets many legit pain sufferers labled as engaging in "drug-seeking" behavior.


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JasonG
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Re: U.S. CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION (Seizure) [Re: phpeters87]
      #198895 - 11/08/04 10:28 AM

I fully appreciate your willingness to protect me from terrorists and myself. You are obviously a very caring person. Thank you for your input. As I was thinking about this tho, the actions of terrorists seem to be on the spectacular side/ world trade center etc. Lacing a few blue v's which would be caught on this site IMMEDIATELY is not spectacular. Yes I remember the tylenol scare. Doesn't equate to the twin towers however. Was done Domestically. Anyone else care to chime in here? I do my homework and have not been poisoined yet. Nor have I heard of that. Now that you mention it tho, their are bound to be some copycat, idiots who may try this. I'm not convinced your warnings are particularly helpful in this climate. I do hope you have a pain free day, have health ins. and are not bound to anxiety attacks. Best regards,J

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upstate
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Re: U.S. CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION (Seizure) [Re: phpeters87]
      #198953 - 11/08/04 03:07 PM

Have to chime in here. What makes you think that OP's here in the states can't be subjected to the same hideous activities. The planes that flew into the Twin Towers were piloted by legal foreigners who were trained in the US. The anthrax letters were also sent from within the US. Why are you even bringing this up? Do you have an agenda, or do you enjoy to make people who everyday live with pain and anxiety even more afraid? We all are aware of the risks involved when ordering anything off the internet, but it wouldn't be inconceivable to go to your local CVS and receive tainted aspirins or even candy. Remember razor blades in halloween candy? For god sakes, how many so called "legit" OP's can't even count correctly or even return an email or phone call? I believe we all have the right to agree to disagree, but frankly your posts are really reaching on the line of being obsurd.

As far as our goverment protecting us you have to be kidding, really. This is the same goverment that allows legal sales of alcohol, cigarettes. The same government that had given us the possibilty of the Terminator as a future presidential candidate. The same goverment that sells us a prescription of pills that cost 100 times more then one from any other country.

As far people who order from IOP's and the correlation of this being the reason why NROP's are apt to be closed down, HA. They do a great job all by themselves to close down and then reopen as a new "legit" NROP.

What we need is an all out effort to introduce new laws that protect it's citizens so we don't have to constantly look to find someone or somewhere who will help us with our pain management. Perhaps outlawing lobbyists would be a great first step, then our elected officials woudln't have to be owned by corporate America. I thank god there are International sites that can help out our needs. At least it gives those of us the option of still being able to buy food and take our meds, without having to chose to pay the outragous American prices for needed medication.


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MetsFan
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Re: U.S. CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION (Seizure) [Re: upstate]
      #198958 - 11/08/04 03:30 PM

I agree with a lot of what you say but my state's ecomomy would be dead without big Pharma (and little Pharma and biotech too). Yes, they overcharge. Yes, but they take some of that money and put some of it into new drugs. Another benefit is that the rest of the money goes into buying McMansions in the suburbs and exurbs. That supports the building industry and we get to chop down even more trees. Its a wonderful thing, isn't it?

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squirrelgirl5
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Re: U.S. CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION (Seizure) [Re: JasonG]
      #198960 - 11/08/04 03:39 PM

RIGHT ON!!!

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