lttlbit
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I went to the dentist to get some information on the implants I will be getting and also to tell them that I am in awful pain. Well the dentist gave me a script for pennicilin and a script for vicodin es, well I laid the scripts on my passenger seat to go and get filled, then I went to pick up my kids from school and on the way out I got my mail well since it was all junk mail i laid it on top of the perscriptions and then got my kids and then my son wanted to go to the car wash since my car was so dirty and plus he loves the brushes that scrub the car, well while waiting in line for the car wash I decided to get out and throw away all the paper and junk in my car, well you got it I threw away my junk mail and the scripts to, so I called the dentist this morning and told them and they only called me in the penecillin, they would not call in the vicodin cause they said there was no way to trace it, I was so furious since I drove all the way to their office to get the scripts which is about 30 minutes away. I even begged them and told them I was in so much pain and I have tried everything over the counter, now with the weekend coming up I have no clue what to do except call him after hours which I am sure he will deny it then to.
I know it is my own stupidity that is happened and I cannot believe I would have not paid more attention, but I also cannot understand why he would not just call it in cause I never even got it filled. OH well, sorry to vent here but I just needed to get this out of my system. My dentist was not even the one who gave me the scripts anyway it was another dentist in the office cause mine was away somewhere yesterday and today, do you all think it would be smart to call the after hours if by tonite the pain is unbearable? I also have endo and I was on norco for it, but I stopped taking that in Feb cause I did not have any records and NWW would not send me any more cause I needed records, my old doctor who i saw for my endo retired and the practice closed and they keep giving me the run around about my records that they are in storage and I have to wait blah blah blah, and now my endo is acting up and I have pain from that now, worse then my tooth, so I might give rxhotdeals a try and see if I can get them to deliver me some meds by friday or saturday. Does the madness ever end  thanks again for listening to me BIT%$.
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johng
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ask them if you file a report with the police would they then ok a script?? if you call the dentist with that offer then they would see you are serious and not drug seeking.
just a thought
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joanne2
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you should try allusascripts.com they seem to be alot faster,I ordered 3/3 and recieved 3/5 with no problems.
well I hope you feel better.
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lemongrass
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I'm just a little curious...why didn't you go back to the car wash and dig through the garbage that you threw it in? I mean, once you realized it, the stuff still should have been there. No? It's just that I would have opted to try to get the script back first, before going through the pharm or doctor's office. Oh, I'm not trying to criticize, I just wondered why you wouldn't have tried that first.
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safe13
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Me too, I would have flew back there and did some bin diving if I had to.
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night_shade
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Even though I'm sure it happened as you said, that is one of the most common lies told by drug-seekers to get more narcotics.
The dentist would have NO WAY of knowing IF you filled your script or not and if you found the old one after filling the new one, you could still fill the old one. The doctors can't call every pharmacy in your area to verify that you DIDN'T fill the one you said you lost.
I once lost my childrens' Adderall prescriptions, then found them a month later all trampled on by muddy/snowy feet stuck under the driver's seat in my car. I must have dropped them on my way into the house after the appointment. In any case, I never did call the doctor to say I'd lost the scripts for fear that he wouldn't believe me. And the pharmacy filled them over a month later muddy, crumply paper and all.
I also agree with some of the other posters that I would have torn the trash apart piece by piece to find that prescription.
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CeeBee
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I think you should try the OP Joanne recommended or the one that you mentioned. I don't think I would call the dentist anymore, although I am writing this late so you may have already. I would have been garbage picking myself.
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lttlbit
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Thanks for all the responses, I actually did go back to the car wash but it was not until this morning when I had realized what I did, and they had already dumped the trash, I also asked the guy who worked there and he said that they took all the trash out of the bins last night, although I did not tell him it was perscriptions, I had just told him I accidently threw something away. I then went back home this morning and called the dentist, I also know that it sounds like a lie and if I was the dentist I would be leary, but I don't ever lie and just told him the truth not even realizing how bad it sounded until after I hung up. I did not call the dentist back after they denied me I just went to the pharmacy and picked up my penecillin which will help in about 48 hours anyway with the pain. But I was in utter pain this afternoon and called the pharmacy and requested a refill for some vicoprofen that my oral surgeon gave me 3 weeks ago and they refilled it, It surprised me that they did refill it.
I do realize now that I have learned my lesson and any script that I get from now on I will take it straight to the pharmacy no matter what.
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Trampy
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Quote:
I once lost my childrens' Adderall prescriptions, then found them a month later .... In any case, I never did call the doctor to say I'd lost the scripts for fear that he wouldn't believe me. And the pharmacy filled them over a month later muddy, crumply paper and all.
... in violation of the federal law that says C-II scrips expire 7 days after their fill date? ... or was it a "do not fill before XXXXX"?
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BAMANURSE
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You mean after the date they are written....
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Trampy
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You mean after the date they are written....
Some states allow "do not fill before XXXX" for C-IIs with up to a 90-day supply (in 3 scrips) being prescribed from one office visit.
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Sweetz
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YOu're lucky, I mailed one next day to the mail in pharmacy and it never showed up. I didn't get the fancy mailing, just whatever was fastest, but not too much. so, no way to track it. My doctor would NOT write another script and we couldn't do without it. so, I had to go through my insurance to a psychiatrist to get it for a month. Then after about 3 weeks, she called and said she would write another one as, it had not gone through.
I once miscounted on the script too, and had to take it back and have it redone. they are strict around here and I would never ask the nice people at Eckerd's to bend Sch II rules for me. I think I'd get a 'no', and I want to be nice to them anyway. YOu got lucky hon.
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Zowie
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I fill all of my medications through a Mail Order Pharmacy -- I make sure I ALWAYS mail it signature requested -- that way if there is a problem - I have the name and date of whom/when the script was signed for at the Mail Order Co. Also if it by some chance it should get lost in the mail, this service allows tracking also. Just FYI.
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dhc_60
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i always thought that the pharmacy had to call the dr. berore filling schedule 3 & 2 meds, therefore wouldnt the dr. be able to make sure you couldnt fill the script you had lost, after you filled the new script.
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booker
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I have a friend who gets a monthly script for pain meds. She carries all her meds around with her. One morning at work she realized she left her purse in her car and when she went out the purse and some other things were stolen. She reported it to the police. She then called her Dr. about her meds being stolen and could she have him call the pharmacy to fill them again? No problem. Even the pain meds. She offered to give him the police report but he said he didn't need it. This is probably off topic a bit but wanted to share.
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amaz
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I'm not sure if they (pharmacy) actually call the dr or not? However, this would not prevent an individual from using 2 different, unconnected pharmacies (ie Osco then Walgreens, or a mom and pop with no/limited ability to track this, especially on a "timely" basis) which is what they have to guard against.....Just my hypothesis, but I don't think there is a primary data base that instantly connects all the pharmacies - (has to at least be the same chain to track info?)
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amaz
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Oops - I misinterpreted your post. I see you were actually saying if the doc gets a call twice to confirm the scrip he will know regardless of which pharmacy is called. I don't think they do this though, as I have had to get rx filled before at late hours, done while I wait, with no contact with dr's office presumably due to the hour and it just being automatically filled - I was never told "I'd have to wait...." The rx would have been for something like generic lortab, so don't believe it necessary for these, which I believe are Class III.......Sorry for missing what you were actually pointing out!
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kayleighbear
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When I had my last baby, my sister took my prescription to get it filled for me (Vicodin) and I forgot that she did since I was pretty doped up from the csec. I called my dr when my husband searched high and low for the paper script and couldn't find it. I then called the dr and told him that I couldn't find it. Well, I don't know how he did it, but he was able to find out that my prescription was waiting for me at the local Eckerds.
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amaz
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Wow - guess they have to make some effort to track these things? Maybe they just right off the bat call the "major" chains and check, since that would be pretty easy. Is it possible he was just calling it in again, as you thought you'd lost it, when it was discovered that actually it happened to have already been filled as a result of sister taking in (ie did he ask you which pharm you usually you for purposes of maybe calling it in again? Or was it actually the result of "checking" it out?) Thanks - not that it really matters I guess, anyway!
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kayleighbear
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The only thing I can think of was that it was a hospital pad script? I dunno. I usually used a different pharmacy that my sister took it to and there are about a million pharmacies from my house to the hospital. It did impress me at the time that they were able to track it. I guess it's possible that Eckerds verified the script with the office before filling it though. When they first looked at my file when I was on the phone, they said they couldn't tell. Maybe went and asked the receptionist and she had the info.
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lemongrass
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As someone who knows how this operates, when a call comes in late night for a refill or a new/lost Rx, the doctor is phoned. There are answering services to take the doc's calls and they then have to bother or wake-up the tired, sometimes overworked doctor. If clarification or anything is needed, the pharmacist absolutely has to speak directly with the doctor. Sometimes there is a nurse that is authorized to take those sort of calls, but not in too many instances.
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amaz
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Wow - do they do this with EVERY rx? Now I feel guilty for waking up my dentist, who is also my neighbor. Small office so unlikely he had anyone else covering this! So this does apply to vicodin, and perhaps even my kids antibiotics? If so, I'll make sure to fill during normal working hours! I really never noticed the pharmicist calling anyone prior to filling the vicodin, or whatever it was, and naturally my neighbor, the dentist never complained about it - but he wouldn't have anyway. It wasn't that late - so he wouldn't have been asleep yet anyway, I don't think!
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lemongrass
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Well, hate to break this to ya, but I do currently work for an answering service. I get all kinds of calls. There are some people out there that just have no common sense whatsoever. Their kid runs a high fever for three days in a row, it's late night, say 3am and all of the sudden they want to talk to the doctor. It irritates me because they had plenty of time to call during office hours. There are some docs who just won't even bother taking their calls at night and tell us to refer patients' to the emergency room if they feel it's that much of an emergency situation. I can't say I blame 'em because we get some real winners. Like I said, all kinds. But as far as your situation, you had no idea that this is what has to take place, so your innocent and we'll let ya slide. Ha, ha!
After working for a place like this and getting the type of calls that we get, it's no wonder these docs have any patience or tolerance left in them. I can understand why some of them are so darn cranky, too! But it goes with the territory and they know that. I just wonder why so many people lack such common sense, you know? It boggles the brain beyond belief!
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Greycie
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Trampy- I hate to be contrary just to be so... but(!) I often get an Rx from my Doctor that he's either ordered and I don't have to pick it up until I want/need it or that I go in to pick up months later. What I CAN'T do is fill an Rx that has expired. Basically, my Rx's will say something like: 3 refills left until 7/10/04 (for example) or 0 refills left until 7/10/04. In which case, I can fill it anytime between now and then but I can't fill an outstanding refill after the "until" date. Not sure if it's different because I use Kaiser which the pharmacy is through them so all my Rx's go straight from the Doc. to the pharmacy and I never personally receive a paper script or what, but that's how it is here.
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herkledeeks
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This might sound a little rude so please forgive me. You are talking about a drug that is very powerful. I am not one to judge, but I would have kept up better with meds like that. What if your kid took the pills instead of you accidentally throwing them away. Please think about what your handling and if I were in that much pain, I would have immediatetly put them in a safe place beside in the passenger seat with junk mail. I am not saying that your child does not know to touch medicine, or you are a bad parent, but I have a 5yr old son and they are curious little people. So PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!!
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Karma2678
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I think she said she threw away the written prescription not the bottle of medicine. I don't think that a young child could do much with the written prescription. Now, If I had a teenager I would be very careful with my pain medicine written prescription considering how popular vicodin is with teenagers at this time.
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booker
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She hadn't filled the scripts yet. She was saying she threw out the written scripts with junk mail.
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booker
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I should have also said that you were very caring and loving to post your plea for people to be careful with meds with children around. I could tell many stories from over the years of times kids got hold of meds, in a cupboard and in a sealed bottle. I have arthritis and hate the kid proof bottles but remind myself that they are a great thing and probably save lives. Once again, you were sweet to remind us!
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lttlbit
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Yes I had not gotten the scripted filled yet, it was just the two paper scripts and neither of my kids can barely read lol, but thank you for your concern. Whenever I get my meds filled I come home and put them up as soon as I get home in a place where they never go which is in my bathroom medicine cabinet, plus whenever I go into that cabinet they know that the yukey medicine is in there that I give them whenever they get colds or sinus infections etc...
So let me get this strait, If I had gotten those two scripts filled the other day then the pharmacy would have called the doctor prior to me getting them filled to let the doctor know I was filling them? do they do that with all scripts that people bring in at every pharmacy? that would seem like a lot of phone calls, but if i understood you correctly then I think that is a good thing to do espically for those people who abuse meds or lie about getting them.
BTW..my tooth already feels better from the antibotics that i got yesterday from the pharmacy that he called in for me so there is a positive side to all of this i guess, more importantly I have learned my lesson to never put a script down except in my purse ready to walk into the pharmacy to get filled, I will never wait again to do it, even if I drop it off and get it the next day, I also threw away a hospital bill with all of that, I realized that cause they called today asking if i got the bill they sent me LOL,
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amaz
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I may actually ask my dentist, and neighbor that, as I have pretty much stood there while waiting to get various scrips filled (reading the books sitting in the chair there), and I have not once seen a pharmacist or Tech delay it by placing a phone called related to any prescription I have presented, whether it be antibiotics or vicodin (which is the strongest thing I was ever precribed and just for root canals, after child birth , etc) I wasn't exactly "watchinig" for it, so possible I may not have noticed but it does seem that would place a heavy burden on the system, at least as it related to non-abused drugs.....Actually, I have several doctor clients but would not feel comfortable asking them - but now I am just curious?!
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