johng
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Reged: 02/13/03
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there is always so much intersest to know the 10 panel test vs 5 panel test.
the 5 panel test looks for the following:
Marijuana (THC)
Cocaine
Amphetamines
Opiates (Heroin)
Phencyclidine
the 10 panel test:
Marijuana (THC)
Cocaine
Amphetamines
Methamphetamines
Opiates (Heroin)
Phencyclidine
Benzodiazepines
Barbituates
Methadone
Tri-Cyclics
the 5/10 panel test also check for the following PH, specific gravity, nitrates oxyidants and glutants.
all these are to ensure that the urine has not been tampered.
the urine is placed into two seperate containers after it has been checked for the correct body temp. then they are both sealed. one vial is tested the other will be sent to a lab if it come back as "non-negitve" all this means is that something caused a reaction on the test strip. it doese not nesscarly mean the urine is + for the tested drug. the test strip can react to many other subsutances Ie antibotics. that is why the sample is sent for exact testing at a lab. then and only after the lab has retested is the saple considered + or - for the tested item..
rember also that the test 5/10 panel 'quick' test checks for the matabolites of the drug not the drug itself. that is why it has to be retested at a lab. cross reactions do and can occure.
the medical officer will then call the person to take a medical history and verify other meds the person is taking. (often times you will never here from the MRO because at the lab test they identfy the reaction as a 'good' med and not a drug of abuse.
IF the person has a valid perscrpition from a valid phamacy then the person has done nothing wrong. the one thing to consider,that a person is taking ie valium the employer may have some issuse as in regards to working/ driving while impared.
here is a link for the half life (detection periods) of several drugs
10 panel information
I am not a LE person or an expert the only information is what I have gotten from training and inservices. I hope this helps people understand and to ease fears of the tests most commonly given at work/clinics.
johng
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meowsie
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Loc: MA
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I just wanted to add that you wrote opiates (heroin), but it is not just heroin that the opiate test tests for, nor is heroin the only thing that would cause a positive in an opiate test; I tested positive numerous times on a standard 5 panel test for opiates from hydro use...I guess this is not a problem if you show them a script, but the people who were testing me were not pleased with an OP script, so just a warning to anyone who might not know that hydro will cause a positive for opiates on the standard test!
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Lilly
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Meowsie, I have been asking about how an OP script would be received by a prospective employer who requires a 10 panel test. I am trying to get a job that will require this test and I worry that my script, which would be a bottle from a US OP, would just not cut it. I have been told on this board that I am doing nothing wrong and it should be fine but I have my doubts. When you take a 10 panel do they ask you to list the meds you are taking, have a copy of the script and give the Dr's name, address and phone? Can you say what happend with your test using an OP?
Thanks, Lilly
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meowsie
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I was in a very different situation, it was the Department of Social Services testing me because someone reported to them that my children might be in danger because I used narcotics...so in their opinion, an OP script was not valid, it was actually sort of "proof" to them that I had a drug problem, because I was not getting the medication from a local doc...although they said that even that would be a problem, because I was taking "too much" hydro (ie daily)so that made me a drug addict...the whole situation was ridiculous, I don't think that it should be a problem to take hydro daily for chronic pain, but they had another opinion, and their opinion was the only one that mattered, if I wanted to keep my children. So I stopped cold turkey and passed their weekly tests and now they are a thing of the past, but I learned an important lesson; I tell NO ONE that I am in pain or that I take anything for it. I'm sorry I can't answer your question, I just warn everyone to be careful who they tell what...I never imagined that I would have been in that situation...I'm a single mother of three and I take excellent care of my children; I think it benefits them for me to take painkillers, as I am more able to care for them, but that is not something I can ever admit again. It was someone in my family who was concerned who betrayed me, I don't know why they didn't come to me first, I guess they thought that they were helping, but it caused a lot of unnecessary suffering for me and my children; my point is just that you can't be too careful; I wouldn't tell anyone that I use OP's now, my employer or otherwise; you honestly don't know who you can trust and I wouldn't want anyone else to go through what I did. I considered answering this through pm, but I figured that it could benefit others, so I decided that for that reason I would post it. I hope this helps someone else
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TwG
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These tests do NOT test for hydrocodone. Hydrocodone can cause a false positive though, these tests test for morphine, which heroin and codeine are converted into in the body.
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