paygen999
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As a long time sufferer of migraine and tension type headaches which at times have lasted for 3 days if not caught in time,i have looked into ordering Fiorinal w/cod.I have noticed something about the med from the IOPs that i find interesting it seems as though they have taken out the Butalbital and instead put in something like tylenol so instead of aspirin butalbitol and caffine you would be getting ..aspirin/tylenol/codiene and caffine???? Does this make any sense to anyone or is it just me? I may as well just order T3?? any clue about this anyone?
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Miss_EttiKit
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Hi paygen999, and welcome to the boards!
I too, suffered from migraines from the time I was 10 years old until menopause hit. I was on Fiorinal #3 for over 15 years, so I understand what you're going through. It's a great medicine for migraines, sure does knock them out. But, as I'm sure you know, it has a very nasty little side effect (aside from being highly addictive) - rebound headaches!
Anyway - what I think you're seeing if Fioricet - at least that sounds like what you're describing. The only difference in Fiorinal and Fioricet is one has aspirin and the other (Fioricet) has acetaminophen.
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..aspirin/tylenol/codiene and caffine????
I have never seen this listed anywhere. I have seen both Fiorinal & Fioricet with and without codiene, in both brand and generic in a few places - Buymeds.com being the first one that comes to mind. (Their site is down right now, but check back later today) Buymeds is rather pricey, but it will do in a pinch. Just be sure to plan on no less than a week from the time you order until you get your meds.
Good luck, and let me know if there is anything else I can help you with. 
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paygen999
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No this seems to be a strange thing i see only with the IOPs not USA ones the Fiorinal w/codiene does indeed contain codiene just not the butalbital,which has me scratching my head.LOL was wondering if anyone else noticed this and why on earth would they sell it that way.I might add that it wasnt just one IOP i saw selling it in this odd form.
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Whatsnew
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To clarify....are you saying that they listed it as Fiorinal and also listed the ingredients as not containing Butalbital? Thanks
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paygen999
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Exactly ...it lists asprin/para(whatever that euro word is for tylenol)sorry i forgot the spelling/codiene/and caffine.i belive one of the IOPs selling it is losepain.com but not certain just know that i have seen it on more than one IOP in this form..
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Whatsnew
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You are right, Losepain's Fiorinal does not list Butalbital....BUT right under that is a paragraph explaing that Fiorinal is a Barbiturate containing Butalbital!! Very contradictory!! If I were interested in buying from them I would contact them for clarification.
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paygen999
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check out also 247-pharmacy.com same thing!So i know im not losing my mind although many may beg to differ on that
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Sweetz
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Here's what I'm going to do if I don't get my perm situation settled soon. Order Fioricet from an online source and then order codeine from another source. Actually, in a pinch, the fioricet does OK. Not as good, but OK. I'm looking at ourrxforless for the codeine. *looking*
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Miss_EttiKit
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Paygenn999 - you're absolutely right! (And my apologies for my earlier post. It was very late last night (early morning?) when I made that post.)
I just went to the Losepain.com website and this is what they say about their Fiorinal:
"Acetaminophen 300mg, acetylsalicylic acid 200mg, Cafeine 40mg, Codeine phosphate 15mg
Fiorinal is a barbiturate sedative (butalbital) mixed with acetylsalicylic acid (aspirin) and caffeine. This non-narcotic pain medication and relaxant is often prescribed for tension headaches caused by contractions of the muscles in the neck and shoulder area, and migraine.
Can you believe it??? They don't list butalbital as an ingredient, but put it in their description. Then they proceed to say it is a non-narcotic medication! Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought codeine is/was a narcotic!?!
And now that I've been thinking about this (and had a good night's sleep), I remember that about a year and a half ago, I ordered some Fiorinal w/codeine (thinking it was Fiorinal #3) from someplace I found online. It came from Spain and was exactly what is described on this website - definitely not what I was expecting! That's when I learned the lesson that even though they may have the same name, drugs from other countries aren't always the same as what we get here.
With only 15 mgs. of codeine, it sounds like this is just a very expensive Tylenol #2! (T3s have 30 mgs. of codeine, as do F3s.)
The only time I've ever purchase the "real deal" Fiorinal #3 from an OP was with the now deservedly defunct E-RXonline.com.
You might do okay by getting some plain old codeine and some fioricet. Just be careful with all the acetaminophen.
Take care, and have a pain free weekend!
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