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Sky_Queen
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Hypocrisy: The Ultimate Cry for Help?
      #108315 - 10/18/03 08:12 AM

Folks - please take note of the part in italics. Rush hasn't made any derogatory comments on people who use/abuse drugs since 1993...............

Hypocrisy: The Ultimate Cry for Help?

Friday, October 17, 2003

By Eric Burns



The Rush Limbaugh story should be covered by psychiatrists, not reporters.

This is not an insult. To the contrary; it is an acknowledgement of what seems to me the story’s fundamental truth: that the motives of a rich and famous and seemingly contented man who becomes a drug addict are better understood by people who have been trained in the workings of the mind, rather than in the workings of politicians and police officials and random occurrence.

There is no way for a journalist to comprehend Limbaugh’s urges, the desperation that drove him to swap cigar boxes full of money for sandwich bags full of prescription pain-killers in the parking lot of a Denny’s Restaurant in West Palm Beach, Fla. And, in most cases, there is no incentive for a journalist even to try to understand.

The journalist of conservative leanings wants simply to forgive. He wants Limbaugh to be thought of as a victim, not a perpetrator. He cannot wait to sprint into print or dash onto the air and ask where the indignation was when Bill Clinton committed deeds even more destructive to the American social fabric. He cannot wait to demonstrate how compassionate his conservatism can truly be, at least when it comes to a fellow conservative.

The journalist of liberal leanings can barely restrain himself. Rush Limbaugh a druggie? It is a gift from the gods of the journalistic empyrean, as if the president of the United States had been revealed as a fishing buddy of Saddam’s. Or Bill Bennett as an inveterate gambler. Such is his glee that he dares not sprint into print or dash onto the air; he must first calm himself, wipe the grin off his face, so that he seems more thoughtful than giddily vindictive.

But the journalist who wants to write about Limbaugh without taking into account either extreme of the political spectrum faces a more difficult task. His first impulses might be sympathetic; after all, Limbaugh would not have become addicted to drugs had he not been trying to escape from something, whether physical pain or pain of some other kind, and he must have been haunted by the way that something pursued him. Or, even worse, by that something’s having finally captured him.

Then again, there is the matter of Limbaugh’s own diatribes against drug addiction, the vehemence with which he railed against it on his radio show. At the very least, the man is a hypocrite, is he not? And the hypocrisy of so public a man is a story in itself, is it not? Cannot journalists of both right and left agree on this?

Yes. Sort of. But.

Last week, The National Enquirer published a list of Limbaugh’s on-air quotes about drug abuse, including his recommendation that “people who want to do drugs [be sent] to London and Zurich and let’s be rid of them.” But all of the quotes, except for one about Ted Kennedy’s thirst for scotch, are from 1993---and no one has yet suggested that Limbaugh’s dependency goes that far back. Perhaps, as he became an abuser himself, he modified his outrage, and thus, at least in some small manner, protected himself against charges of hypocrisy. But even if he is a hypocrite, even if he continued to vilify druggies as he was descending into the same abyss that they so ignobly occupy, one is advised to take into account the words of the French essayist La Rochefoucauld, who said, “Hypocrisy is the tribute that vice pays to virtue.” In other words, the hypocrite is not as duplicitous as he seems; he is, rather, one who bemoans his own shortcomings, albeit in a most indirect manner.

In Limbaugh’s case, by practicing hypocrisy himself, which is to say, by blasting drug addicts either on or off the air while simultaneously swallowing a virtual drug store every few days, he might have been blasting himself. He might have been punishing himself. He might have been trying to save himself.

Hypocrisy might have been Rush Limbaugh’s cry for a virtue that, for reasons so far known only to him, he could not attain.










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wildbill
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Re: Hypocrisy: The Ultimate Cry for Help? [Re: Sky_Queen]
      #108359 - 10/18/03 12:53 PM

Thanks, Legitimate, for posting this.
Personally, I hope this hypocrite has a VERY painful detox.
He's like those preachers with the hookers... these little pills just "took hold of him" and it's not his fault.
If you believe in karma, every dog has his day.
And I know the type like Rush from working in Times Square... yeah, they're "conservative" in appearance... but then you'll find them hunting around for dingy hustlers in the worst, most dangerous all-male theaters at night.

Rush, you got your get out of jail free card. Most of us here wouldn't be that lucky. My wish for you is to straight to hell where you belong, do not pass go.


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voyager
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Re: Hypocrisy: The Ultimate Cry for Help? [Re: wildbill]
      #108378 - 10/18/03 03:08 PM

Wildbill, I am sorry to say this but your last post was absolutely SHAMEFUL. You people that want to kick someone when they are ill should have your head examined. That could be any one of us that are affected by chronic pain. Rush did infact have failed surgeries for both his neck and his back. So his chronic pain is no doubt LEGITIMATE. Wildbill have you had FAILED surgeries for both your neck and your back????
I don't know a thing about his politics or his radio show but I do know that to excoriate someone that could very easily be any one of us SMELLS VERY BAD.

Shame on you Wildbill. It would be nice if you could demonstrate some compassion for a fellow chronic pain patient that ended up getting hooked on VERY ADDICTIVE MEDICATIONS. I would venture to say that many of the individuals on this website could very easliy identify themselves with what happened to Rush.

My wish for Rush is that he has a speedy uneventful recovery, and is able to free himself from the addiction of opiod medications that has had such a profound impact on his life.

That could be any one of us going thru that.

voyager


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Re: Hypocrisy: The Ultimate Cry for Help? [Re: Sky_Queen]
      #108621 - 10/19/03 10:58 PM

Sorry, but I've HEARD Rush wax on extensively about daryl strawberry, robert downey jr.....and it was MOST certainly well AFTER 1993

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Re: Hypocrisy: The Ultimate Cry for Help? [Re: IMSUSCOT1]
      #108705 - 10/20/03 11:59 AM

My problem with Rush is a simple one. Its not about what he has said in the past. Its not about what he says when he returns to his radio show. Its all about what he has caused. Rush has now helped to make it even harder for all of us. I'm not someone who takes what I don't need. I believe that most people are responsible when taking medication. The people like Rush make all of us look bad, and now because he could not control himself it makes it seem like none of us can.

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Re: Hypocrisy: The Ultimate Cry for Help? [Re: voyager]
      #108717 - 10/20/03 12:36 PM

Quote:

Wildbill, I am sorry to say this but your last post was absolutely SHAMEFUL. You people that want to kick someone when they are ill should have your head examined.




Voyager suggest you look up the word sanctimonious - perhaps you could show as much compassion for wildbill as you do for Rush.

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Sky_Queen
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Re: Hypocrisy: The Ultimate Cry for Help? [Re: IMSUSCOT1]
      #108964 - 10/21/03 08:32 AM

Thanks - I don't listen to him often so I didn't know if that was an accurate statement or not.

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Re: Hypocrisy: The Ultimate Cry for Help? [Re: Sky_Queen]
      #109969 - 10/24/03 05:08 PM

No worries girl....yours is a great post....keep on keepin on

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wildbill
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Re: Hypocrisy: The Ultimate Cry for Help? [Re: IMSUSCOT1]
      #110343 - 10/26/03 09:54 AM

A few comments on this evil individual Rush:
1. You don't get off oxycontin with a month in a hospital. My (extensive) experience in this matters dictates that he will be put on methadone tablets by a private physician. Something most of us don't have the luxury of doing.

2. So many people listen to this idiot he is actually influential in making right wing policy... the type of policy that would make all our lives miserable. If it was up to him we'd all be in jail. But not him... he's "sick"

3. I have already made my points about how "sick" people can be the most evil troublemakers there are and use this "wooden leg" excuse to get away with it.

4. Check out the movies "JFK" (I'm sure many of you have seen it)... and better yet "Z" about the military junta coup in Greece, which JFK borrowed from liberally. The government uses right wing bullyboys like Rush to influence/make policy. Without getting into the whole long story I have studied some of these groups - some hide under "protosurvivalist," some use the moniker "christian" to do their dirty work - in Z it was "CROC" (Christian Royalist Anti-Communist Organization).

The members of these groups are recruited from lowlives of society, thug homosexuals and other dregs.

I happen to be related to "Deputy Z." depicted in the film Z who was played by Yves Montand. He was assassinated in front of almost 200 policemen by two thugs driving a kamikaze (three wheel pickup truck used in Europe) by a blow from a billy club to the head.

Rush is evil and I have no sympathy here. I know Florida, too. If it was one of you or us, you'd be looking at a lengthy jail sentence and fine if you pulled his shennanigans.

I would not feel bad if he died, as I described in my previous post. No pity, no sympathy, no happiness... just a nothingness which happens when the really evil bite the dust. And considering what a public enemy he is to us, and to so many Americans (did you know Rush was on welfare once and you think that would at least give him an iota of sympathy towards the people he attacks)... I wouldn't be sorry if something went terribly wrong in his detox, or the depression overwhelmed him and he decided to "end it all". I wouldn't be happy - just relieved his mouth would never be heard again.

Usually left wing types don't employ the bullyboy tactics depicted in Z - sometimes I think we're too humanist for our own good.


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yawkaw3
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Re: Hypocrisy: The Ultimate Cry for Help? [Re: plotinus]
      #110364 - 10/26/03 11:34 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Wildbill, I am sorry to say this but your last post was absolutely SHAMEFUL. You people that want to kick someone when they are ill should have your head examined.




Voyager suggest you look up the word sanctimonious - perhaps you could show as much compassion for wildbill as you do for Rush.




Interesting point. As sanctimonious as he may be, maybe his sympathetic hypocrisy is really just the Ultimate Cry for Help?

Translation to Idiot Terms: Bitching about bitching to make yourself look better is still...bitching. Happens pretty often on DB, doesn' it?

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Re: Hypocrisy: The Ultimate Cry for Help? [Re: yawkaw3]
      #110378 - 10/26/03 12:49 PM

All right. . .Children. . .Children. . .Settle down. Don't make me go in there!

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Re: Hypocrisy: The Ultimate Cry for Help? [Re: joffrey]
      #112530 - 11/02/03 04:13 PM

I had no respect for him before so this does not really change anything. Except it makes me happy to see someone so awful and uncompassionate hopefully get a taste of what it's like to be on the receiving end of conservative BS. But he won't -- because the conservative movement in this country is way too hypocritical themselves. It's really sad when you think about it. It's all who you know. And that's it.

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Re: Hypocrisy: The Ultimate Cry for Help? [Re: TXR]
      #112563 - 11/02/03 06:51 PM

Quote:


It's all who you know. And that's it.




In one line, you have summed up the sad state of affairs in this country...

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Re: Hypocrisy: The Ultimate Cry for Help? [Re: plotinus]
      #112584 - 11/02/03 08:39 PM

SHOULD YOU ALSO LOOK UP THE C WORD?? iT SEEMS THAT YOU ARE NOT TO UNDERSTANDING ANY PEOPLES PROBLEMS .YOU JUST SEEM TO TELL THEM HOW YOU FEEL VERY UNFREINDLY..HOPE YOU FEEL BETTER AND NICER SOON

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Re: Hypocrisy: The Ultimate Cry for Help? [Re: shine]
      #112790 - 11/03/03 06:30 PM

Oh Rush where art though . . . some nice editorial cartoons via Daryl Cagle’s site. Many topics (see link from gif image properties).

Me I have always despised Mr. Limbaugh for front wall propaganda & antagonism coupled with sheer ignorance. Hopefully his new pain driven by his “blue babies” and abounding “cabbage” will digest into some liberal twister. I long for the day when Rush repents or simply apologizes for the hypocratic lashings he wielded w/o mercy . . . terming President Clinton & Daryl Strawberry as “moral weaklings” over drug use. Nevertheless as a person I do wish him recovery.


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Re: Hypocrisy: The Ultimate Cry for Help? [Re: wat853son]
      #112805 - 11/03/03 07:18 PM

There are some mean spirited hypocrites on this board who pale in comparison to Rush or any conservative that I know of.

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