MARCYLU
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Hi - I am wondering if there are any OPs out there that will prescribe hydro without an actual phone consult and medical records. I am at work all day in a cubical - very hard to talk on the phone. I have used ERX in the past - but they stopped shipping to my state. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! Thanks everyone!
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jayh204
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Loc: WEST VIRGINIA
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I have used TropicalRx,MedpharmRx and never had a phone call or med. records.They are more expensive but I have had good luck with them.Hope this helps.
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tansun
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I would say tropical as well. There was some confusion before on uspharmacy, they do require a phone conversation, so try tropical.
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adb263
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Loc: midwest
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Don't be nervous of the phone consult thing, they are really painless. When I used NorcoWorldwide months ago I did't have records and they didn't request them. In the long run it would be cheaper to go to your local walk in health clinic and get an exam stating your problem and vitals and taking a copy of these records and going to one the more respected OPs. But really don't be scared at all of the phone consult, I remember being very nervous the first time and look back now thinking how silly I was to be scared. I hope I have allayed some of your fears. Keep your chin up, we have all been there at one time or another.
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painfreedom
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Loc: Texas
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I didnt have a phone consult with USPharmarcy. Just filled out the form and by the next working day the meds had been shipped.
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Skizzik
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Could people not say this open forum? Keep it to PM's please... or we might lose a source.
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painfreedom
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I had actually wondered about posting what i did and if i could edit or delete the post I would...i just tried...
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Sky_Queen
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I don't think it was your post painfreedom 
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Farmer
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Even if you work during the day, there are options. AAAMWW.COM alllowed me to call once my form was sent in. There was no set time and the consult a few minutes only. You could choose them and consult during your luchhour. There are others that do consults until 7-8PM and still more that do Saturday consults.
Those other choices that require no consult are really straddeling a legal fence, so if you really need the meds for a real condition it is worth the minor "hassle" of speaking to a doc and getting refills as well. And to second the thought, if there are those who require no records or consult it is bestkept off the boards.
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painfreedom
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I don't think it was your post painfreedom
Thanks Legitimate. I wasnt sure. I try to be careful and see how others have posted and do the same. Definitely do not want to mess anything up. This place is great! 
Then again after seeing the post after yours I'm still confused as to whether I did the wrong thing or not!
Edited by painfreedom (09/11/03 09:05 PM)
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Dilaudid
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Tropicalrx.com is the best in my opinion...
Buymeds and USpharmacyRX are good too...buymeds has some shippin delays but there back on track i think
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alphaman
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Skizzik, i think your right about post becomeing so open. People should really be more crefull to what they post in the open. Sorry for being off the topic but there is a thread somewhere, i think in the suggestion forum that has a thread on things to pm. Prettyday posted i think. I will check but there should be a post in there somewhere about how everything is becoming so open, and in my opinion it can not lead to anything good. I know im fairly new here too but this is one of the things that i know shouldnt be done. We should all watch what we post and if you think its best keeped off the boards PM it thats all.......heath
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Beetlenut
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Loc: Colorado
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Hi Marc:
I have the same problem (cubicleworld).
What I did to get past this was to send my favorite OP an e-mail stating that I would like the Dr. to call me (for my second consult), BUT I did not have any privacy at work and could she somehow work around this?? A also stated that I was a returning patient with the same medical complaint as before.
Well, it worked out wonderfully. The Dr. was given this bit of information and was extremely discreet and confidential when she called me. She ONLY asked me yes or no questions since she knew that I had no privacy.  Give it a try.
There is also the option of going with an OP that has evening and/or Saturday office hours. In fact, I just read on this board that norcoworldwide.com has Saturday office hours...
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dsack
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I didnt have a phone consult with USPharmarcy. Just filled out the form and by the next working day the meds had been shipped.
Same here. The only phone call I got was a message on my machine that my order had been approved and would be shipped out via FedEx 2nd day for free.
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rowana
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Loc: CA
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could someone please PM me some info about the OPs that are more lax on the records issue? i'm having trouble getting all of mine. thanks.
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astrophel2
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Loc: Georgia
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Someone please PM me about OPs that are more lax as well. (no records, no consult).
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frankie007
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Tropical never called me or my frien and did not require records. I used USPharmacyrx and they did call, however they just got my answereing machine and they did leave a message. The message said, "This is XXXX calling form USPharm, I just wanted to let you know that our doctor DID approve you medication. Thanks."
That was it!!! Also, she called an hour and a half later than I specified. So I wouldn't worry, and yes, if they do get a hold of you, the questions are PAINLESS!!! Dont trip!
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zeuzjuz
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No offense to anyone - but it amazes me that people (not just you - I mean on lots of boards) - continually post public mesages like this, even in times when the Gov. is looking to shut down any OP they can find that is not requesting records or doing real consults. I can understand that if you dont have records, but is there really a need to shout it out right there in the thread title? Just shining out at anyone so happening to read the board ? You guys that depend on OP's with no records requirements do realize you are digging your own grave as far as using OP's, right?? I mean, no offense, but there is a thread with basically this SAME subject like twice a week!!
It is not hard to go through the posts and see which OP's don't require records, just by reading context in the posts. I don't depend on no-records OP's because I do have records with my diagnosis (spinal condition) - But - What is the point of having a 'Which OP doesn't need records or consult' over and over and over again. Look through the threads - this subject is posted like once a week minimum. You all are drawing an AWFUL lot of attention to these places. Just my opinion - but considering the law has recently started being more enforced - and the Gov. is looking to close all of those type OP's down - you would think it would be a time, that those that did not have records would want to bring as little public attention to those OP's as possible. But people continue to post messages with thread titles like 'Emergency! Need OP no records no records' - Just makes no sense to me, sorry - especially in light of the happenings of the last week. It is VERY easy to tell which ones don't, as it is, just from reading the threads on each OP. I don't know why I am butting in here since I use an OP that does require records, but I am sure others feel the same way - Pain patients are not the only ones reading these boards, ya know.... Just seems that you would not want to be shouting out the names of the few remaining OPs not requiring records, over and over again on the board. Unless you want them to be shut down, that much faster...
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zeuzjuz
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My adivce would be read as much as possible info on each OP thread - and if you are still unsure after reading the threads on each individual OP - then send someone a PM that you can tell has used that particular OP - and ask what the requirements were. It is just amazing and ironic to me - that the folks using the 'no records' OP's - are more loud and obvious about what the OP is requiring than the people using the more legit OP's - Every time someone orders from BuyMeds, erX, etc - it seems they feel compelled to yell in big capital letters that 'WOW they didn't even need records or call me!!' - Like I said, to each his own, it is not a personal concern because I have records - but I just DON't GET IT. I guess you guys just wanna make it that much easier for someone to get on the board and quickly compile a list of the OP's that need to be investigated or shut down. Have you guys not seen the news?!? These OP's are now *illegal*, completely - it's there in black and white.... If you want to continue using no records OP's (they will probably be gone in less than 3 months now) - use the PM function - no reason to SHOUT it OUT on the board...... Just my 2 cents - Feel free to flame away now. I am just speaking LOGIC, and some folks around here need a major dose of logic it seems. BE SMART. 
Just look at the post above my first one for a good example of what I'm talking about....... I mean, come on, get real:
The post says something like: 'They didn't require records! And just left a message on my answering machine, didn't even have to TALK to anyone!! It's all good, don't trip'
Do you really think posting stuff like that again and again is necessary, or a good idea, right now especially??? Doesn't make sense to me but to each his own, we all have an opinion...
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Edited by zeuzjuz (09/20/03 06:02 PM)
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lovepink
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I completely agree with you zeuzjuz.
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zeuzjuz
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Well, at least the first response wasn't a flame towards me, thanks LP....  I know I have probably made some folks mad - but I am not a judgemental person - I used to use no-records OP's too, for the whole first year I used OP's - because I didn't have my records nor did I realize how easy it was to go to the doc and procure them for myself. So I am not judging you guys that need no-records OP's - and I understand that there are MANY various reasons for needing to do so. Just wanted to clarify - I am NOT going off on you guys' that need these places, infact I am trying to HELP you to not lose these places. (or at least to delay the losing of them, for as long as possible) - In the current climate of OP law - there is simply no need to be compiling lists over and over of which ones don't need any records to prescribe. Very. very bad idea in my opinion. Discreet, discreet, discreet- Consider that my word for the day.
But please no one mis-understand me as meaning that I am judging those who use them. Like I said, I did too for half the time I have used OP's because I didn't have good records yet. My condition is one that is long-term and chronic, for which there is no treatment besides physical therapy and medication to relieve pain. So, I don't go to the doctor regularly for my condition, it is something I have to live with. So I had to go and pay (with no insurance mind you!) to get updated records - I understand the various reasons for being in that position. I am simply trying to help - it is just so hard to see people bring about their own demise.
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Edited by zeuzjuz (09/20/03 06:13 PM)
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alphaman
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I completely agree with you also!!! In my opinion everyone who is writing things like that should go back and read your post. Then decide if it is really worth kepping out in the open like that. If its not DELETE it, its as simple as that and it should be keeped to PM's JMO........heath
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carlygh
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I agree with you as well. These places are needed and since this board is here to share information, by all means,
help these people out.
Just do it in a PM. It doesn't need to be broadcast for any and all to see. Discretion people! Discretion!
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prettyday
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Yes!!! This is what I was talking about! I love you guys!!
Thank you Alphaman Heath for the mention! My thought was always that I didn't mean needful people should be shut out from information. Sometimes you have records, but for thousands of reasons, you need those meds first before you can even concentrate on keeping the proper countenance when you request your records from an office that already has shut you down. I understand. But there are ways. It is not doctor shopping to go to a clinic or other doctor and express your pain or difficulty and ask for simply a diagnosis...Or to take the #20 pill RX they give you, and about the time it is logically gone, send your records into the OP of your choice.
Awhile back, there was a thread on flying with meds...it was really interesting....course my favorite is where to hide them...that cheers me up all the time because we really are by turns resourceful and -sigh- all hiding them in the same place we think no one will look!
I maintain it is a good idea anyway to have an in-town dr and Rx bottle from them. This is not DDing. There is no law saying you have to throw away your bottle when it is empty...though some chains are beginning to make you bring your empty bottles in when you refill, I heard...maybe that is just a rumor...I know some PM clinics request this.
The thing is; you are helping yourself in many obvious and subtle ways when you go to a sliding scale clinic or community clinic or Urgent Care; whatever. You are locally seeking help. Even if you don't leave with an RX...you are documenting that you felt compelled to seek educated help. This is nothing but good.
I am so proud to be a member of this board. I feel so much more aligned with a group of people that most of society regards with disdain; I think we are the strong and resourceful ones. And when I see a thread like this one, where we intelligently discuss how to help each other and protect our sources, I just am happy all over again that I found you guys. 
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james001
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Yeah, I see where you're coming from. I agree
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Sky_Queen
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I'm in total agreement with all of you! Great posts!! Prettyday, I always keep a bottle from my local doc just because I'm paranoid about a drug test - good idea! This is a good thread, let's heed this advice folks. Keep it to a PM 
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rtwister63
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Not only do I AGREE! I also wanted to ADD that you CAN always go to a SITE and read what the requirement's are. Im pretty darn sure you can figure out if records are needed or not, by reading their FAQ section, or some place on the web sites. CORRECT???
Please try to PM someone if you can NOT figure it out by reading the web sites. Thats all we are asking!!!!
TIA for Hopefully taking these simple little words of advice!
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alphaman
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rtwister63,
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Not only do I AGREE! I also wanted to ADD that you CAN always go to a SITE and read what the requirement's are. Im pretty darn sure you can figure out if records are needed or not, by reading their FAQ section, or some place on the web sites. CORRECT???
I think you just read my mind!!! I was just @ an OP's FAQ section reading and here is a quote "No recored No problem". I am only writing this to show everyone out there you can find this without posting something new every week about looking for a OP that doesnt recquire med rec's. Now i also know that posting this is just as bad as posting OP names that dont recquire rec's, but i feel this really needs to be said. Just look around your self and if your still not sure PM a long time DB person. There is a list of the top posters as soon as you come to this site and im sure everyone of the top poster list can help you if you cant manage to find out on your own for some reason.
And Prettyday you are welcome! I mean there was a time when i made this same mistake and Prettyday corrected me without being harsh and i just *DELTED* my post. So anyone who feels they may have writen things that shouldnt be posted in the open just *DELETE* them too. Prettyday i did look for your thread on things to PM i couldnt find it though. I think this really should be mentioned there if it isnt already. So everyone please just think about your post if you think it might not be for the whole world to see PM it thats all. I am also very new here and this no rec's has gotten so outa hand since i first sighned up this isnt something you would see all the time so lets go back to the ol days.......heath
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brian71_99
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Just look at the post above my first one for a good example of what I'm talking about....... I mean, come on, get real:
The post says something like: 'They didn't require records! And just left a message on my answering machine, didn't even have to TALK to anyone!! It's all good, don't trip'
Do you really think posting stuff like that again and again is necessary, or a good idea, right now especially??? Doesn't make sense to me but to each his own, we all have an opinion...
I SO agree with you ALL! Man, it's probably the idiot abusers who aren't even in pain that post this Best if kept off the board. They find out that they can get scrips w/no hassles and in their excitment, they start posting idiotic best if kept off board posts and so on...
It's messing it up for all of us who ARE in pain and NEED these OPS BECAUSE of our lack of records. The ones who may be digging our grave are the ones who don't even NEED the meds. I am FUMING right now! 
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