wat853son
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Hello. I truly enjoy this forum intent, dynamics, seasoned know-how, empathy, caring and open feedback from peers (CPrs).
One genuine concern & observation is the increasing volume of posts originating from alleged experts w/varying levels of professed medical expertise. Some overtly blatant and when historical posts are scrutinized it quickly becomes evident that the poster possesses merely the ability to cut & paste on-the-fly from the plethora of medical websites.
To all db members please use caution & verify any medical advice, diagnosis, reports, treatments, theories, hypothesis, your data & source prior to making decisions . . . be relentless to this end. To these bar-room medical quackery peddlers shame on you.
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maria
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Too true. People, please be careful... there's no way to know who is on the other end giving you medical advice. If you have questions or concerns, please don't take chances with your health. Talk to your doctor, or call up a pharmacist for convenient and free advice.... it's easy to get information from qualified professionals who are actually licensed to give medical advice.
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catmom
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Just my two cents, pharmacists are one of the most underutilized professionals in medicine. THEY are the ones who really know their stuff when it comes to meds. interactions, etc.  Sadly, some docs only know what the latest drug is that the pharmaceutical reps are pushing this month. The latest drug is, of course, the most expensive one. 
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catmom
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In a related vein, I have noticed several posts from people claiming to have one or more PhD's and their posts have numerous misspellings. While it is true that you can be very educated & not be a naturally good speller but it's not rocket science to use the spell checker. JMO I am not sure if it makes their medical opinions less credible or not, but they certainly aren't very detail-oriented..... 
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Edited by catmom (09/11/03 08:50 AM)
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arik
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hehehehe. Well, keep in mind, people may spell perfectly; however, type horribly. I make typos all the time. And I bypass spellcheck because it never occurs to me that people are judging my level of education by the number of typos. Guess I'll be more careful. Arik
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johng
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I have been a paramedic for well over 11 years. what I have found is that 95% of the population does not understand or comprehend most of the medical information. It is true that here on the borad people give info from there expireance. which from there point of view is correct. I have talked to many people wha really do not understand but are afraid to ask there md to explain more for fear of angering them. they then have a misconception of that care and then relates th incomplete information to others.
some people truley are trying to help but lack a coplete understanding of what they are trying to explaine. for example I have had 5 epidurals in the last 18 months. I undrstand most aspects but if I gave advice/oppion it is only from my point of view. If it is related to my area of expertses it is with education that I pass on advice/oppion. BUT what every I say I hope people take it in the spirt of giving/helping and verify it with an MD/pharmicist who knows the patient and whole history. that is the only garenteed way makeing the safeist discion.
By the way my spelling is poor it would be better on the board but I can never get spell check to work. I have sever dislexia...
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Reel_X_4U
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This board was created for the implicit reason to exchange general information and techniques to acquire medication, that would otherwise is impossible to get here in the states. I agree with you 100% that it shouldn't take the place of an actual dcotor's office visit with instructions from the MD on how best to treat you particular illness (luckily I have none), but then there are alot MDs out there, who are quacks themselves. Like the ones that carve-out their names on the stomachs of patients to leave their mark. I do my own research looking for varying perspectives from educated professionals and then confirm their belief systems with textbooks and conversations with MD friends, which believe it or not, tell me the best to acquire a script of my choosing (LOL). Then I gather all the important facts and terminological remarks and take it to my doctor and receive whatever I want and need at that moment in space and time. "REEL" Kewl, wouldn't you say!!
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catmom
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But, then, Arik, maybe that judging peoples' spelling is just me being anal-retentive and/or perfectionistic. No personal criticism intended, especially to a fellow cat person such as yourself!  
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Edited by catmom (09/15/03 12:03 PM)
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arik
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I know! I was just razzing you. Kat people should stick together. Remember, "he who dislikes the cat was, in a former life, a rat." Just love that one. And, yes, I do know more than a few rats. hehehehe. k
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maria
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I love cats too! In fact, my angel Gabriel is resting his head on my keyboard right now  I like reading my friend's Cat Fancy magazine and cuddling with my furbabies 
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AFI
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Yeah too many people on this board "are not a Doctor, but play one on TV" . But alot of other people have great advice not because they are Doctors, but because of all the personal experience. Like so many others on this board, I have been prescribed so many meds till' my doctor and I finally found one that works . One book that can give you good info on medications is the 2004 PDR. The only drawback to the current PDR is the cost, about $200 bucks! But at Borders and other book stores you can buy 2-5 year old PDR's for about half the cost. Then again it'll be missing alot of the medications that came out recently. If ya buy the book make sure you have a cart to get it to your car!, It's pretty darn HEAVY/BIG. I'm not sure if you can get it in every state, but here it's OK. As with the spelling on the posts here, I suck , sorry people. It's one of my many flaws. As all the "MEDICAL QUACKERY" on the board, I give you my word that all my posts come from personal experience or things that my Doctor has told me. Peace, -AFI
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wat853son
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Loc: USA
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agree. most of us are observant and recognize the self-proclaimed Dr's and Med students . . . simply a matter of time before these folks develop carpal tunnel from their chronic repetitive cut-n-paste habits. so continue to read, research & verify.
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arik
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Maria: Do you go to the Cat Fancy Boards????? If so, spell my name backwwards and I think you'll know who I am. k
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lovepink
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Quote:
One book that can give you good info on medications is the 2004 PDR. The only drawback to the current PDR is the cost, about $200 bucks! But at Borders and other book stores you can buy 2-5 year old PDR's for about half the cost. Then again it'll be missing alot of the medications that came out recently. If ya buy the book make sure you have a cart to get it to your car!, It's pretty darn HEAVY/BIG. I'm not sure if you can get it in every state, but here it's OK.
Another option is to check out Ebay - I've seen relatively inexpensive PDRs there....
Hope that helps
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catmom
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Maybe we need a separate cat lover's post room.....
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Reel_X_4U
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Yea, I've read through a few pages of the 2004 PDR, you can look through it, it's available almost at any local library, you just can't take it out, it usually only used as a reference book. But it good book to to use when you need a specific med and your doc is not familiar with it. You just make copy of pages that you need and take them with you to the doc's office, Highlight the important points that will justify to him him that yes this patient will benefit from this med and at the same time you can say that you're taken it before and it's been a great help, and aided you in living a normal and productive life. Like I very much like "Valium" "10mg" and it "REELLY" helps me with sleep and as a general relaxant, (you know like how some people come home after a hard day at the office and sit and have a couple glasses of wine), well, I "REELLY" hate alcohol, it just doesn't agree with me, so I've found "Valium" is a replacement for the alcohol that some drink after a hard day's work. So I tell the Doc, "Look doc I don't drink, I haven't ingested alcohol in over fifteen years, so can you like do me a favor and prescribe me Valium. I've taken it before, and it an effective anti-anxiety agent. I play to his human side and tell him how lucky he is that he can drink. Usually that strikes a sympathic cord deep within his psyche, and I'm able get what I need, at the same time I don't hound him every month for it. I'll get "90" and if even he giving me a month's supply (take 1 3x a day) I will like go to him and get a refill 2 months later. Cuz I know if I keep buggin him for it, that's it, he'll cut me off and ask me never to return. So what I'm trying to say is that work-out a compromise, and sometimes you will have go without. I'm fine with that, cuz I know in the back of my head that when enough time as passed-by and I return to him in a calm and collective manner. He will more then happy to prescribe. I've learned the best way to create a relationship with docs is not be a pest, but let them guide you to a certain degree. All you guys who live in other states, you're lucky to get benzos on the regular white scripts. In NYC, they have to written on a triplicate, which makes them a little more difficult to get, if not impossible at times, So working with the doc and at the same time providing him with the justification (like a psych review for his records along with a EKG report and lab results from a recent blood specimen) and after that pretty much docs are pretty "Kewl" about prescribing meds. They only get nervous when they prescribe you a controlled med and they can't justify it, in his records. That would cause the DEA to take a closer look at his prescribing methods and open-up a can of worms. Do as he says and he will prescribe you what you know you need. Kewl!!
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Some men see things as they are and say "WHY"!!
Some men see things as they are and say "WHY"!!
I've dreamt of things that never were, and say "WHY NOT"!!
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