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Re: subutex
      12/12/04 04:50 AM

Lovely,

Thanks for the tale of the rescue dog. It's always heartwarming to hear of the pleasure these dogs can return to their owners.

I think it has all been covered here before, but just to review: There are two ingredients in Subutex. Buprenorphine and NALOXONE HCL DIHYDRATE. As you said, the second ingredient is to prevent injection (it would be an unpleasant experience). It also "is indicated for the complete or partial reversal of narcotic depression". "Depression" here means symptoms like shallow breathing, slow pulse, etc.

My own experience is that Buprenorphine by itself (Temgesic) is an extremely powerful painkiller and again, just personally, - gives a kind of floating high similar to morphine, and has anti-depressant effect. However, I find that it can leave you feeling on edge and a bit irritable and it is good to be aware of that in advance, so if it does happen, you will not take it out on others around you. It does not have (for me) the negative side effects of other opiates like constipation. It is very long lasting compared to other opiates.

It seems like the last few years it is becoming more popular for treating W/D whereas before that it was little used in the west, but popular as a painkiller one level down from morphine - especially for chronic pain in Europe.

I've heard many different opinions on how addictive or not it is but the prevailing one is negligibly for most people and I would go along with that. Some, however, do feel that they became addicted to it, but even in that group, those that had experience with Methadone rated it less addictive.

I hope this helps,

Peter

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* subutex GEM37 11/13/04 06:16 PM
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. * * Re: subutex TheNewGuy   11/13/04 10:08 PM
. * * Re: subutex Steffie   11/13/04 10:12 PM
. * * Re: subutex lovely11   11/14/04 07:58 AM
. * * Re: subutex GEM37   11/14/04 09:36 AM
. * * Re: subutex lovely11   11/14/04 01:58 PM
. * * Re: subutex GEM37   11/15/04 01:02 PM
. * * Re: subutex Yeppers   11/15/04 02:30 PM
. * * Re: subutex GEM37   11/15/04 04:20 PM
. * * Re: subutex GEM37   11/15/04 04:35 PM
. * * Re: subutex lovely11   11/16/04 01:16 PM
. * * Re: subutex Trampy   11/25/04 10:24 AM
. * * Re: subutex lovely11   11/25/04 12:36 PM
. * * Re: subutex lovely11   11/25/04 12:41 PM
. * * Re: subutex rara   11/25/04 07:17 PM
. * * Re: subutex Expat   12/01/04 03:13 AM
. * * Re: subutex rara   12/01/04 06:40 PM
. * * Re: subutex Expat   12/04/04 09:58 PM
. * * Re: subutex lovely11   12/09/04 08:01 PM
. * * Re: subutex juliah1   12/09/04 09:15 PM
. * * Re: subutex Steffie   12/10/04 01:55 PM
. * * Re: subutex lumbarwrench   12/10/04 06:45 PM
. * * Re: subutex juliah1   12/11/04 08:36 AM
. * * Re: subutex lovely11   12/11/04 10:40 AM
. * * Re: subutex Expat   12/12/04 04:50 AM
. * * Re: subutex meowsie   12/14/04 06:16 AM
. * * Re: subutex Steffie   12/09/04 07:40 PM
. * * Re: subutex rara   12/01/04 06:36 PM
. * * Re: subutex rara   11/25/04 07:44 PM
. * * Re: subutex TRS   11/18/04 11:06 PM
. * * Re: subutex lovely11   11/25/04 07:24 AM
. * * Re: subutex Opie_Yates   11/16/04 08:21 PM
. * * Re: subutex rockystuart   11/16/04 11:54 PM
. * * Re: subutex groundeffect   11/17/04 01:42 PM
. * * Re: subutex rockystuart   11/19/04 09:44 AM
. * * Re: subutex Trampy   11/25/04 09:46 AM
. * * Re: subutex lovely11   11/25/04 07:29 AM
. * * Re: subutex BABYBLUEYES   11/25/04 08:38 PM
. * * Re: subutex lovely11   11/28/04 10:40 AM
. * * Re: subutex rara   11/28/04 03:40 PM
. * * Re: subutex Lisa1967   11/28/04 02:53 PM
. * * Re: subutex lovely11   11/28/04 04:44 PM
. * * Re: subutex rara   11/28/04 05:25 PM
. * * Re: subutex lovely11   11/28/04 05:38 PM
. * * Re: subutex dardee226   11/26/04 04:34 AM
. * * Re: subutex efffbeee   11/17/04 12:37 AM
. * * Re: subutex doglover82   11/15/04 06:37 PM
. * * Re: subutex lovely11   11/15/04 01:33 PM
. * * Re: subutex poppyale   11/14/04 09:58 AM
. * * Re: subutex GEM37   11/14/04 10:02 AM
. * * Re: subutex Yeppers   11/14/04 11:48 AM
. * * Re: subutex TheNewGuy   11/13/04 10:15 PM
. * * Re: subutex LuckyDee   11/14/04 05:30 AM
. * * Re: subutex LuckyDee   11/14/04 05:32 AM

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