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Re: Something Comparable to Percocet
      12/02/04 05:35 AM

I feel I must correct you lest someone make a dangerous mistake. 12 mg oral oxy = 10 mgh iv morphine or = 25mg oral morphine. See www.palliative.org/PC/clinicalInfo/AssessmentTools/MeanEquivalent.pdf

From other sites there is a range of Oxy oral vs hydro oral from 10 mg oxy = 12 mg hydro to 15 mh hydro.

I have never had morphinhe in any form, but from personal experience, I lean to 10 mg oxy = 15 mg hydro.

Note: ASAP, while potentially dangerous does add to the analgesic effect, so Percocet (much more commonly prescribed than oxy IR, contains 325 mg acet/5 mg oxy.
Most hydro prescriptions, estimated 70% are for Vicodin ES or its generic equiv = 750 mg acet/7.5 hydro. SO my conclusion is that with those two- 10 mg oxy/650 mg = 12 hydro/1100 mg. My p.e. is with 10mg hydro/325 mg, so the range documented is PROBABLY due to the differing amount of tylenol. There are too many sites to list which compare oxy to hydro.

Side fact: Heroin much more potent than commonly realized, 4 "bags" street price $10-$15 each smoked or sniffed (considered "safe" by many) = 300 mg oral morphine = 150 mg percocet (50 tablets per day or 50 Vicodin ES (containing 37,500 mg tylenol- usually fatal in 3-4 hours). That is why 1 bag can prove fatal to a first time user. One bag injected = 20 bags smoked. The math is truly frightening. I learned this by researching for a friend desparate to quit/reduce. He needs 40 10mg/325mg per day. Before he went to 10 record Op sites (sure to be arrested, if not killed by the tylenol, I recommeded 4 40mg oxycontin a day. Avaliable at ONE'S OWN LEGAL RISK. A desparate situation either way. Both methadone clinics and suboxone treatments have multi-week waiting lists, depending on state. The problem (well documented) is that street purity is dramatically higher now than vs. 5 years ago.

I know that only pain patients use this site, but with the explosion in heroin use (estimated growth at 60% per year due to a variety of factors), I thought it might be helpful to have this knowledge. Collected from 15+ scientific studies found by searching the abstracts.

I am currently researching various tapering methods as well as opiod substitution in effort to help him. Many pain patients also will need tapering advice (not chronic).

I AM NOT A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL, but I am confident of my math.

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* Something Comparable to Percocet Codebunnie 11/29/04 09:49 PM
. * * Re: Something Comparable to Percocet rockystuart   11/30/04 10:15 AM
. * * Re: Something Comparable to Percocet lamborich   12/02/04 05:35 AM
. * * Re: Something Comparable to Percocet fred_s   12/02/04 12:58 PM
. * * Re: Something Comparable to Percocet MetsFan   12/02/04 01:10 PM
. * * Re: Something Comparable to Percocet JBRONCFAN   12/03/04 11:08 AM
. * * Re: Something Comparable to Percocet MetsFan   12/03/04 11:43 AM
. * * Re: Something Comparable to Percocet TTFREE   12/03/04 01:07 PM
. * * Re: Something Comparable to Percocet Daeshay76   12/03/04 12:57 PM
. * * Re: Something Comparable to Percocet fred_s   12/04/04 03:18 AM
. * * Re: Something Comparable to Percocet Daeshay76   12/07/04 09:56 PM
. * * Re: Something Comparable to Percocet clueless1   12/07/04 10:57 PM
. * * Re: Something Comparable to Percocet bobgates   12/08/04 08:19 PM
. * * Re: Something Comparable to Percocet TTFREE   12/08/04 08:29 PM
. * * Re: Something Comparable to Percocet line6ampman   12/04/04 11:09 AM
. * * Re: Something Comparable to Percocet voyager   11/30/04 10:38 AM
. * * Re: Something Comparable to Percocet Codebunnie   11/30/04 04:36 PM
. * * Re: Something Comparable to Percocet RiverDawg   12/01/04 10:12 AM
. * * Re: Something Comparable to Percocet tone   11/29/04 11:25 PM
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