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I agree, If you got records, there is no logical reason to use a no records site for price reasons alone.

As an example, since you asked about CC's, check out www.healthmeds.biz (have used twice and they are reliable), the only online consult/no rec OP I know of that has Hydro's in stock now and accept's CC's.

The prices alone may make your monthly visit to your doctor seem like a lot less of a pain in the butt especially if you have insurance.

Records required OP's are much cheaper, but unless you have an actual doctor's script to fax (in which case you're defeating your purpose), even these places, in my experience, are significantly more expensive than wal-mart, for example.

Even with records required OP's, you will still have to pay for at least one doctor's consultation every three months (you can't sell prescription drugs in America without a script; most no rec places include it in the fee for the meds) and this on top of prices that are about double (in my experience) what I was paying when I had insurance and my doctor was giving me scripts for hydro's for a $10 copayment. And then the drug store filled 90 tab hydro prescriptions for another $10 co-pay.

Never through hydro's could be so expensive but now at $225 a visit, it makes even the pricey NROP's a cheaper option for me.

There are other cautions with records required OP's. If any of your records are, let's say, "unflattering" (some doctor thought it was all in your head for example) they may deny the prescription or require a "travelling doctor" visit for even more money, to verify your condition. The records often also have to detail the condition that is causing you pain (x-ray's, etc.). Many will also call your doctor to verify the prescription....

My advice is, if you have insurance and your doctor is cool, a visit every six weeks will save you enough money, time, and hassles compared to the OP world, for hydro's anyway, (other med's, especially ones that can be obtained from IOP are a whole other story) to make it worth the hassle (if he is a friend he should be willing to see you after work).

Again, this is comming from someone who has LOTS of experience with online consult/no rec requied OP's and IOP's since my COBRA ran out in January.

Now, especially as I am amoung the uninsured but I believed this even prior, it is also why I think it is a sin that the richest country in the world can't guarantee affordable basic healthcare coverage for all it's citizens, in some way. All other "first world" countries from Canada to the Netherlands to Australia do. And although they are far from perfect systems, no one's looking to go to an American style, big insurance company run system.

And dispite Bush's campaign trail retoric, no one is saying totally government run healthcare. Not only would this be nearly impossible to set up considering our current system, but it would never be accepted in this country and would be political suicide and fail before it got out of committee. But something needs to be done so that the working poor aren't forced to use emergency rooms of hospitals as basic care (causing a near crisis in hospital fiscal stability and part of the reason for the $600/night semi-private room as they have to make up the loss some way).

But the insurance company lobby is this most capitalist (i.e. big business has LOTS of power) of countries is very, VERY strong and changing an entrenched system that favors the rich (therefore powerful) is no easy task.

Especially in a country where people have a low opinion of government in general; have more problems with welfare recepients getting about $400/month than they do with CEO's making $15 million/year while they lay off employees crying poverty; seem to believe that paying taxes based on your ability to do so is unfair; and have an extreme distrust of the government's ability to properly set up and manage programs other than locking people up and hiring cops which people, see (or think they see) as a direct benefit to themselves.

But Enron, Haliburton and all the other private sector abuses, well, no problem.

Or, in a very personal example, a CEO taking a $10 million dollar bonus (on top of his million dollar salary and many other deferred compensation totaling more than a million) for himself because he was "going through a divorce and needed the money" in the same year he layed off almost 1000 employees making an average of well under $100k/year because "the company is having financial difficulties" (my last employeer of 17 years; the thanks I get for 17 years of loyal service).

Sermon over. Time to go food shopping.

Kerry for President!

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YEAH, there is no logical reason to use NROP. That is unless you dont have a legit problem and that's why you dont have records. that's my opinion on NROPS

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