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Re: Ordering Same Medication from Diff. Domestic OPs
      08/31/04 10:43 PM

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you would think people would use their heads and if they're engaging in this activity, they would know better than to create a record of it...true we're using screen names, but everthing stays on the good ole hard drive, leaving a trail with a confession on it....does it matter...I think our credibility over all is always up for grabs and what goes on on this site is scrutinized by many...DB has been in the media more than once & certainly LE is well aware of DB's activities and no doubt reads posts...so THINK BEFORE YOU POST, that's my advice....
Overall, I think the possibility that OP's will eventually go away is great, given the scrutiny they're receiving, so I think everyone needs to be thinking about what they'll do should that occur.
If some legislation comes down the pike, are we going to see 100's of thousands go into mass w/d's, think about it.




Not every state has made "DDing" illegal. What is illegal everywhere, though, is the use of an alias or any type of fraud or deceit to obtain controlled substances. Using fraud or deceit is usually treated more harshly than illegal possession and while they need to do a controlled delivery to get a conviction for possession, that's not so for fraud or deceit. The problem with proving guilt there is that it's pretty much impossible to know who was at the keyboard when false information was submitted to a NR OP. The fact that your credit card number was used is not proof that you were the one who was using it. But if they did a controlled delivery and wanted to add on the fraud/deceit charges later, if, say, someone used their dog's name, getting that first conviction for illegal possession could lead to more criminal charges if, for the sake of argument, the credit card card bill came and the OP's charge was not disputed. Of course, if you hand over a money order for a COD in a controlled delivery addressed to your dog, you're gonna need a very good lawyer to help explain that one.

The fraud/deceit crime is usually a state felony with penalties more severe than for simple illegal possession. Add to that the possibility of federal mail-fraud charges and the prison years can add up quickly.

With no priors, simple possession is just a misdemeanor under federal law. That is, unless the drug is flunitrazepam and maybe a few other drugs where possessing even half a tab can get someone up to three years from the felony conviction. Mail fraud can get you several years.

So, if you use a NR OP, make sure you supply accurate information on the web form. As long as you give them the truth and there's no DDing law in your state, only the doctor and pharmacy/pharmacist can be charged with crimes for distributing controlled substances without a legitimate doctor-patient relationship.

Trampy

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