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timberland
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Re: Hydro and depression relief?
08/26/04 05:44 PM

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hey, far be it from me to say whether or not anyone should or shouldn't get whatever drugs meet their needs. And if tolerance could be overcome, we'd ALL be better off, whether we're using opiates for pain or depression or whatever. Unfortunately, we live in today's world and tolerance is the big impediment to successful use of opiates to treat depression. I think the government spends entirely too much time regulating what we put in our own bodies, and they should mind their own friggin business, but since tolerance is a reality, I think it limits the successful use of opiates to treat depression, in the long term at least. I mean, what do you do when you've plateaued out and Dr. Feelgood won't Rx anymore opiates than the 120 maximum( and that seems to be the magic number, doesn't it?) I don't have the answer, I'm just posin' the question.

I'm curious about mixed agonists/antagonists like Nubain and buprenorphine. They shouldn't induce your body to downregulate the number of opiate receptors or uncouple them from their G-proteins as fast as other opioids would. They won't give you a big buzz, from what I've heard at least, but it might be enough to tide a person over in the short-term; for instance, if a loved one dies. Right now benzos are handed out like candy for stress and anxiety, but maybe you don't want to forget about it like benzos make you do; maybe you'd like to have your faculties about you in or after a certain situation, but you would like to be numb enough not to be overwhelmed by emotion.

Maybe that's a bad thing; maybe it could keep you from ever dealing with a tragic or extremely stressful event, but who knows until clinical trials are done to test the hypothesis? I take 0.5mg Xanax when I get freaked out - it worked great the first two times, then it stopped working so well, and even though I take it sporadically and only once or twice a week, I have built a huge tolerance to it! Plus, I can't remember things very well from when the Xanax was working, and it only works for a couple of hours. If I had buprenorphine, maybe a couple of Temgesic from clickdrugstore, I could take them in the morning and have them work all day. Opioids distance me from emotions, but if I had to give an important presentation that day or help bury an old friend, that's what I would need.

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