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treezat
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Re: Panic Attacks and My Psych
      08/25/04 11:39 AM

I am sorry I did not get through all of these posts, there is alot of good information and feedback in here. I have alot of experience with friends with panic attacks and panic disorders, as well as various other mental disorders and conditions. I have lived in a state psychiatric facility. I have been through rehab. I have worked with scientists at Johns Hopkins Bayview medical center. I have worked with NIMH. I have worked with medical students from University of Maryland. After much discussion and thorough oberservation which still continues, it is apparent that our endoriphin systems as well as thought patterns and diet all need to be balanced, and are all related. western medicine is popular to cover up the symptom of the problem without ever treating the source of the issue. doctors prescribing drugs and not offering sound advice or guidance, are far mroe dangerous then handing a child a gun. If you wish to be free from panic and anxiety, You are your best weapon, and only YOU can cure your problem. However, there is alot of help if you have the desire to be well and the will to look in the right places. I hope this helps you start :

SSRI is useless unless you have placebo efect from it. Most of the panic attack comes from the builup of anxiety, which comes from letting your mind worry. Worrying is like a rocking chair, it gives you something to do for a while, but it never gets you anywhere.

In order to beat panic attacks and anxiety you will need several tools and steps, and unfortunately despite your overwhelming desire, it cannot be done all at once. It will take time and effort. The First tool is cns depressant for calming an attack, this should be xanax valium klonopin etc. dont use too much or youll get addicted and make your anxiety disorder worse. Or you can use the natural ammeno acid your body uses for cns depression called GABA

The REAL tool above all else here is PAYING ATTENTION to your thought patterns. Right now you dont and they run their normal patterns causing issues, generally due to poor diet and lack of endorphins. Eventually you hit something that stirs up deep trama fear or emotion and you are suddenly and voilently forced to pay full attention and unable to draw your attention away. Doesnt that just suck so bad? It doesnt have to always be that way. You can get the tools you need to begin your fight against the fear. you need to balance the endorphins in your body/brain. for paying attention aids, stimulant medicines help alot for this, but can also be addicting and euphoric. you will need to check out meditation and calming your mind, dismissing most of what used to send you into an uncotrolled panic attack, without so much as a second thought on it. Eventually tapering off the chemicals and just giving your body needed ammeno acids.

When you take meds that make you feel good, like xanax or ritalin, you feel so free from your anxiety that you forget in your moment of freedom to face down the source of the anxiety while you have the strength. Its so much easier to enjoy the chemically granted freedom. but it doesnt last, you and I both know this. It doesnt last because the stimulated or depressed endorphins resume theyre previous patterns when the meds wear off. balance the endorphins and cure the problem. Meditation will aid your body in naturally changing the neurological pathways, they have done studies at NIMH on it you can research it.

You will need to give your body fuels for essential endorphin production in the brain so that the edorphins it really needs to focus and be free from fear are always present. seritonin is thought to be the primary endorphin. thus all the SSRI therapy. It is my personal belief that all endorphins play an essential and key role, as do all ammeno acids, and thus balancing all systems instead of focusing on one is far more effective, albiet a little tricker.

want to know what really works? ammeno acids vitamins good diet and herbal supplements in combination with chemical therapy at first slowly tapering off the chemicals. And if possible physical activity and excersize.

go to : http://www.iherb.com/health.html and lookup your disorder. various treatments include :

5HTP (naturally used to increase seritonin production)
St. Johns Wort (natural SSRI)
GABA (natural version of VALIUM, CNS depressant)
SAMe (dopamine/norepeniphrine production, liver detoxification, and clinically proven mroe effecive then most prescribed anti-depressants)

personally i realize that my diet is poor and the food in the us inst very healthy, so i take ALOT of ammeno supplements. but after a while it really works you feel so much better, and when you combine it with meditation and moderate use of chemical medicines it really seems to be effective.

hope it helps somebody. feel free to PM me. be well

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--Treezat (HiPpY)
~~Peace on your journey to wellness. Share all medicine and knowledge thereof~ for what you give is what you get. Be well, may you find peace and relief.

Edited by treezat (08/25/04 12:01 PM)

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