Very very interesting but I think I will still stick to extra dose of my Klonopin, some Soma, Tramadol or possibly Buprenorphine if I have it, and lots and lots of OTC Advil, Aleve, anything in the house that doesn't contain Tylenol.
I dunno, I am hearing more and more reports about this high-level Immodium thing, but is that safe? There has to be some side effect to that.. Maybe not. Think I am gonna do some Loperamide research tonite.... It just amazes me that it could help so much, when it doesn't cross the blood-brain barrier. I mean, one of you said it doesn't really help with elevated pain or the psychological aspects of w/d - then if this is the case, how is it working as an effective alternative opioid? - These are the two worst parts! The rest of the symptoms are just flu-like and/or physical like runny nose, watery eyes, nausea, diahhrea, and muscle twitching. All of those things can be cured with OTC meds, a few benzo's (I am already on them so I just use a little more as needed), Soma to relax the muscles as well as help with pain when taken in conjunction w/ Advil or Aleve...
I have used this recipe, (sometimes along with Tramadol or Buprenorphine - like I said, that is IF I have a current script of it) - But I have gone from 60-70mg's hydro, stopped suddenly, and had a comfortable enough w/d with aforementioned things, that I was able to even clean the house, make myself food, and drive to the store for dog food. Also did other normal life-stuff. Wasn't that bad at all, and I have been taking opioids daily for over 3 years (the holiday was about 5 weeks - longest stopping period ever because my back pain always comes back and reminds me why I got on them in the first place... ) -
Anyway, I guess it sounds complex to use all those substances to get thru 'comfortably', but it works, and most of the meds are un-controlled or low-enough controlled to be easily obtained OTC or by a doctor or an OP. But if the immodium works, and doesn't seem to have any crazy side effects, that's incredibly interesting, seriously, but I just dunno what that could do to the bowels if done like this on a regular basis. (Like monthly holidays or something) - I dunno. Just don't like the idea of taking more than 3-4 of any tablet at once for some reason.....
Many people also swear by Buprenorphine and Buph alone - I have done it myself - and it does work, although I have usually also been taking Klonopin and Soma. Never tried just Buph and nothing else. Many people say it cures everything top to bottom, and is a very smooth transition with little-to-zero additional pain in the transition. I am going to try it when I have enough of the Buph. Anyway just some thoughts....
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