imallgirl
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Reged: 04/20/02
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I just got my self magazine in the mail yesterday and there is a large write-up about OPs. Apparently, this writer heard all the evils of online med buying, and they placed several orders from nine different OPs. They bought everything from xanax to clomid to vicodin.
They have a bi-line on the page that reads "if you self-prescibe, you have a fool for a doctor". It goes on to say that self mag dutifully reported the names of all these pharmacies and docs to the proper federations for investigation.
This really makes me angry, on several levels. Maybe it is just because I feel like no one could understand, especially a reporter, unless they themselves needed to use an OP. An article like this, in a magazine known widely for being fair and health-promoting, will do a lot to make more people think only drug addicts would use OPs.
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ohd_37
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There is a place to write the editor on their website, maybe we should ALL tell them how it REALLY is!!! 
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Sweetz
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Sounds like health promoting doesn't include knowing your own body and pain control. That's really sad. Reminds me of doctors that only treat one part of you, not the whole you. We are complex, things aren't as cut and dry as a lot of people think they are. I"m sure they think if you order from an OP, then you aren't in legitimate pain. Because, if you were,then your doctor would prescribe meds. don't we all know that is a joke!
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potatoboy99
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Loc: Deep North (East)
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This is becoming a trend, or something like that. Didn't Jane magazine just run exactly the same sort of article? Likewise the NY Post ran a story on page 3 a week or two ago about more or less the same thing, how easy it was to score narcotics online. They even helpfully provided the web addresses of the dastardly OP's, (so readers would know which ones to avoid?).
I am very certain that this type of article introduces countless readers to the idea of buying drugs online for recreational (as well as for legitimate) purposes, readers who would otherwise never have considered the option. Making the 'problem' worse. What public service exactly is it that articles like these are providing? While they make our lives more difficult?
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Sweetz
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Are you following me? I think you're stalking me! Ah, to be stalked..... the ultimate compliment.
PS: now we're even (theoretically) HA.
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Anonymous
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How do they make our lives more difficult? The general public has a right to know what's going on. This publicity will only increase business for OP's mentioned.
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Sweetz
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Reged: 05/11/02
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Loc: Texas!
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Well, we all saw what happened to Pharmanet after that article. If the Ops were reported to the proper authorities all that does is make the business of OPs more visible and that has the risk of eventually shutting them down one way or another.
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digitalone
Reged: 08/18/03
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Loc: USA
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I can drive less than a mile and get the exact same pills they received, at an inflated price, from 'Joe Shmoe' gang member drug dealer. Given I should add the hooligans, violence, neighborhood depreciation, etc involved in that industry. I guess they forgot to mention that it's widely available off-line too? 
It's terrible when this type of one-sided press runs bias. I would say that a majority of the OP customers are in need of medication at an affordable price. Lord knows I do.
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Billyl
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I am not sure I could agree the majority of on-line users are legitamate. It does concern me when I hear about articles like this that draw even more attention giving recreational users additional sources as well as taunting Law Enforcement to act. As if "LE" didn't already know these OP's existed. The problem with these articles is at some point the media will demand LE and lawmakers address this issue and at that point it will not be in our favor. Take care. Billylll
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potatoboy99
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Loc: Deep North (East)
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How do they make our lives more difficult? The general public has a right to know what's going on. This publicity will only increase business for OP's mentioned.
Well as Sweetz pointed out, we all saw what happened to Pharmanet. And to answer your question, the Pharmanet situation did in fact make my life more difficult in that Pharmanet was supposed to be filling an approved script from unityrx when they closed up, and it took a week for the new pharmacy to come on board. So much for the small view.
But BillyI frames the larger situation more eloquently than I ever could. Thank you BillyIII, for your customary clarity and precision!
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Greycie
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Loc: Pacific NorthWest
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Good and Bad. Good because it's most likely going to force ALL existing O.P.'s into playing by the books- i.e. send your records and have a live consult with a Dr. for reals, not just a quickie questionnaire and there ya go, pills! This will ultimately eliminate prescriptions being filled for recreational use/people that don't truly require the medication. Bad because there are people like me and a lot of you who are afraid for one reason or another to send out our medical records; people who aren't insured and can't afford to go see a doc. on an ongoing basis and people who do see a doc., get an Rx, but don't get one with enough pills to rid them of pain. It's going to make it as difficult for those of us that actually do need them to get them as it is for those of use that just want them. It's creeping me out more and more every day. Though, it makes me thankful for O.P.'s such as YOD (even though I haven't yet used them- see above for fear of sending my records for one reason or another, wlol).
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wat853son
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Loc: USA
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+/- in my eyes as well. OPs will surely evolve ending in more efficient operations, more expensive, regulated, taxed yes but reliable & legal. This hype is just the beginning 60 minutes, dateline and the countless other media are already working on OP stories so lets not be shocked. All here understand the need, process, risks, +/- and are active participants in the OP system . . . +/-. This is not news.
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zorg
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Reged: 04/29/02
Posts: 559
Loc: Midwest
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If records requirements are going to solidify the longevity of OP's, then I say the sooner the better. ANYONE that would place themselves a rung above chronic physical pain sufferers don't deserve any respect anyway... the rest will concur, and can push from the ideological front. I don't have any sympathy for someone that is healthy and mobile, pitting their dependency against my debilitating disease process.
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zorg
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Posts: 559
Loc: Midwest
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You can get a distinct and legitemate diagnosis for the price of a consult, so I don't think price will be the least bit exclusionary. I've not met a SINGLE chronically ill person without extensive research and awareness of their condition, and VERY few that didn't have written diagnosis. As far as submitting your records, as long as you scratch off your social security number, you'll be fine. Every piece of info other than your SS# (and even that, actually) is available for $35 on the internet, or $5 at your local courthouse. Privacy is pretty much a moot point these days. The only choke in being compromised is discerning the trustworthiness of the parties to which the records have been submitted. Past that, it's all already out there.
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jayh204
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Reged: 08/20/03
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Loc: WEST VIRGINIA
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What OPS did they name?
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helping2003
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Reged: 08/16/03
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I could not agree more! If an OP is not asking for your medical records, detailed information then they are not doing their job! If I was to use an OP that did not require medial records, then I would not use them. The more details they want the better off everything will be especially in the long run! There are several good completely legal medical providers that care. Find one and stay with them.
Just some advice for those that care to look at thinkings in that light. Which OPs require medical records? Which ones want and need details? That is were I will give my business.
Stay pain free or at least try.
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