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tinpen179
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There is an article in the NYTIMES about importing drugs and it is in congress right now. The title is "BILL TO EASE IMPORTS OF LESS EXPENSIVE DRUGS GAINS IN THE HOUSE". Go to the website www.nytimes.com/2003/07/22 and it should be listed on that page. Very interesting reading. You will have to register to see it but it is free to view nytimes on the web. see their terms and conditions.
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qbird
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I know that this issue has been brought up before Congress before. I wonder if it will fly this time?
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parusski
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It will not fly this time. The major problem with re-imprtation is that the drugs are coming from coutnries with strict price controls. Those price controls are actually one part of higher prices here in the U.S. The drug compaines lose a lot of money selling to nations with price controls, so they make it up here. Also, you don't see many major drug advances in those places. No incentive.
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MrOrange
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It's not over 'till the Fat Lady sings!
House Approves Bill Easing Imports of Less Expensive Drugs
By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG
July 25, 2003
WASHINGTON, July 25 -- In a major defeat for the pharmaceutical industry, the House voted by a wide margin early this morning to approve a measure that would make it easier for Americans to import inexpensive prescription medicines from Canada and Europe.
The vote, 243-186, came shortly before 3 a.m., after a fiery hour-long debate that capped a long and stressful day for lawmakers, who are rushing to finish their business by tonight so they can leave the Capitol to start their month-long summer recess.
The outcome was a surprise. Until the last minute, lawmakers on both sides were saying the vote would be too close to call. Even as the votes were being cast, some lawmakers held back, to see which way their colleagues were voting.
"I think this is the Congress saying, We hear you, drug prices are too high," said Representative Jo Ann H. Emerson, Republican of Missouri, who forced the vote by extracting a promise from the House leadership in exchange for favoring a broader Medicare prescription drug benefit that is a high priority of the White House. She added, "It's time we stopped subsidizing the world and bring fairness and fair prices to Americans."
The measure now becomes the official position of the House in its negotiations with the Senate to reconcile differences in their two versions of the prescription drug legislation. But its fate is uncertain; on Thursday, 53 senators released a letter saying they oppose the provision. And it is unclear how hard the House representatives in the Medicare negotiations will fight for it.
The Republican leadership of the House worked vigorously against the bill, as did the drug manufacturers--who stand to lose millions if it becomes law--and the Food and Drug Administration, whose officials argued the measure would jeopardize safety. The vote did not fall along party lines; rather, the debate turned on whether lawmakers were willing to accept the drug makers' argument that the measure would harm patients and defy free trade by allow the importation of not only drugs, but price controls.
"This is an interesting debate, because its not between the Democrats and the Republicans" said Representative Ted Strickland, Democrat of Ohio, who supported the measure. He added, "It's between the people and the pharmaceutical companies."
At times, the debate grew dramatic. Toward the end, Representative Billy Tauzin, Republican of Louisiana and the lead opponent of the bill, produced medicines that he said had been purchased from web sites purporting to sell drugs made in Canada. Instead, he said, the pills were from India, and, tossing them aside, declared they contained "nothing but pond water."
The pharmaceutical industry has long argued that it could not guarantee the safety of imported medicines, and drug makers have also said higher prices in the United States are necessary so that they can funnel the profits back into research and development. But many Americans are already buying their drugs from overseas, either through the mail or over the Internet, and consumers--as well as some lawmakers--are outraged by cheaper prices in nations whose governments control prices.
As a result, the importation bill had been picking up steam in recent weeks. The bill called for the F.D.A. to create a program to enable consumers, pharmacists and wholesalers to import agency-approved medicines from agency-approved facilities overseas.
"The issue is not safety, my friends," said Representative Rosa DeLauro, Democrat of Connecticut. "The issue is price. It is time that this Congress stop acting as a wholly-owned subsidiary of the pharmaceutical companies and step up to its responsibility to the consumers of this nation."
But Representative James C. Greenwood, Republican of Pennsylvania, said he had witnessed airport inspections of imported drugs, and "what we saw would turn your stomach--drugs coming in from countries all over the world, where there is no regulation. Drugs of incalculable content, of unknowable safety."
Under the terms of Mrs. Emerson's deal, the House leaders had promised not to work against the bill. But earlier this week, as it became clear that the measure was gaining in the House, Representative Tom Delay, the majority leader, told reporters he would fight against it.
"I think it's horrible policy," Mr. Delay said then, adding, "From a free-market perspective, I'm not interested in importing price controls."
Others insisted the measure was not impeding free trade, but rather injecting it into the pharmaceutical marketplace. "People from around the world come to America for their medical care, yet Americans travel around the world for affordable medications," said Representative Rahm Emanuel, Democrat of Illinois, adding, "The legislation we are debating today is about inserting competition and the free market into the pricing of medication."
After the vote, Mr. Emanuel said, "I think the people took back their House."
This morning was not the first time Congress has tackled the importation issue. A similar bill was passed in 2000 and signed into law by President Clinton, and both the House and the Senate included drug importation provisions in their Medicare prescription drug bills.
But each of those measures contained what Mrs. Emerson has called a "poison pill" -- a requirement that the secretary of health and human services certify that the imported medicines "pose no additional risk" to consumers. Both the Clinton and Bush administrations have refused to do so, preventing the program from taking effect. The bill the House approved today eliminates the certification requirement, which is one reason the drug manufacturers fought so hard against it.
"In the past this was seen as simply a political vote to lower drug prices, and that it was never going to be implemented, so it was a free vote," Ian Spatz, an executive with Merck & Co., said Thursday, before the vote. He added, "I think this is really the first time that it is being seriously debated and that member are taking a close look at the issues."
While the drug industry ran advertisements and sent armies of lobbyists to Capitol Hill, the Food and Drug Administration also made an intense effort to persuade lawmakers to reject the bill. That prompted an outcry from measures backers, who accused the agency of potentially violating, or at least bumping up against, a ban on lobbying by federal agencies.
Some suggested the F.D.A. was bowing to the industry it regulates.
"The F.D.A. is doing something I've never seen," said Representative Sherrod Brown, Democrat of Ohio and a co-sponsor of the importation measure. "The call we got from F.D.A. illustrates the way the pharmaceutical industry has co-opted the Food and Drug Administration."
A spokesman for the agency, Peter Pitts, characterized the contacts as a "very aggressive and appropriate effort to educate members on Capitol Hill." Insisting they were "strictly appropriate," he added, "I should also say that we have not received any complaints from any members of Congress, or otherwise."
Yet at least one congressional expert, Norm Ornstein, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, questioned the F.D.A.'s actions. Ordinarily, Mr. Ornstein said, federal agency officials are passive in approaching members of Congress, doing so only when they are requested to.
"There is a line," he said. "To be calling lawmakers in that way is at least pushing up to that line."
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lovepink
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Thanks for posting, bdcolletti. I would urge anyone who cares about the future of this bill to let your Senators know you expect their support and to let your Representatives know you expect them to fully push/support this bill during upcoming negotiations with the Senate.
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moonbeam
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Pink, I agree wholeheartedly with you. We need to keep a close eye on how our representatives in Washington are representing their constituents. I personally think that if an American wants to purchase their medication from overseas, then they should have that right, regardless if it is the real deal or just "pond water" that they end up with. I don't feel that I need congress or anyone else protecting me from whatever decision I make.
The key is knowing who your representative is in Washington, knowing what bills are being debated, and letting them know how you want them to vote. The Drug Policy Alliance is a great organization. If you join (it's free), they will send you occasional e-mails notifying you of important bills that are before Congress, who your representative is, and supply you with the link to communicate directly with your representative. Check it out.
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qbird
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I also have been following this with great interest. Thanks for the link for the nonbelievers. It is going to Senate so we all should contact our Senators by letters or phone calls in favor of this bill. If it passes it could be a reality this time.
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Billyl
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Just remeber last time it got through both the House and Senate and was vetoed by President Clinton.
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phillesh
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Drug Lobby Pushed Letter by Senators on Medicare
By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG - The New York Times
WASHINGTON, July 28 When the House voted last week to let Americans import less expensive medicines from Canada and Europe, 53 senators signed a letter opposing the legislation, a letter that the industry trade group, which vigorously opposed the measure, hailed as proof of its argument that the bill would jeopardize patient safety.
What the trade group, the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers Association, did not say, at the time, was that it helped coordinate the signature campaign.
The Senate "Dear Colleague" letter, timed to coincide with passage of the House bill, will have an important role in whether the import measure survives a conference with the Senate on a larger drug benefits package. Several conferees, including Senators Orrin G. Hatch of Utah and Don Nickles of Oklahoma, both Republicans, are among the signers.
The trade group's involvement in gathering signatures, detailed in a document obtained by The Times, is not a surprise. It offers a glimpse into the aggressive efforts by the pharmaceutical manufacturers to defeat the import provision. That section would require the Food and Drug Administration to create a system for consumers, pharmacists and wholesalers to import less expensive drugs from Canada and Europe.
In the letter, apparently intended for Senate Republican aides, Derrick M. White, director of federal affairs for the trade group, wrote that he was helping Senator Rick Santorum, Republican of Pennsylvania, with "the logistics of getting this `Dear Colleague' out to as many offices as possible in as short a time period."
Mr. White declined to comment. Spokesmen for the trade group, known as Pharma, did not return calls. Mr. Santorum said he had initiated the letter and had asked the trade group to help circulate it.
"I don't have time to run around and get all these people to sign it," the senator said.
The bill, which the House passed early Friday morning, 243 to 186, is one of the most contentious issues of the year. Republican leaders did not back the bill, but were forced to bring it up for consideration when Representative Jo Ann Emerson, Republican of Missouri, insisted on it in exchange for her vote on the larger Medicare drug bill.
A similar measure passed the Senate as part of its Medicare package. But that version requires the secretary of health and human services to certify that the imports "pose no additional risk" to consumers, a condition that effectively prevents the program from taking effect, because the Bush administration says it will not issue the certification. The House bill does not have the certification requirement, which is why the industry is fighting so hard to kill it.
The pharmaceutical manufacturers went to great lengths in their efforts to defeat the House bill. They sent an army of lobbyists to Capitol Hill to try to persuade lawmakers to vote against it, and they joined forces with abortion opponents in a direct-mail campaign focused on conservative House members, warning that the import bill would make the RU-486 abortion pill "as easy to get as aspirin." The mailer was based on a legal memorandum prepared by lawyers for the trade group.
"This is a multiarmed octopus we're dealing with," said Representative Gil Gutknecht, the Minnesota Republican who is the chief sponsor of the measure. Referring to the trade group, Mr. Gutknecht added, "All roads lead to Pharma."
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qbird
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You know the pharmaceutical lobbiests are working overtime to stop this bill! Getting cheaper meds from Canada or Mexico would hurt their huge profits that is for sure. It will be really interesting to see how the Senate votes on this issue. Bush could also veto it if he is opposed. I really am not sure where he stands on this issue. It is funny how they are all out to help the seniors then pull nonsense like that.
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