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bhamdave
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Lot's of XP Info
      #59330 - 02/22/03 08:05 AM

If you are a Microsoft Windows XP® user here is a place for lots of good information.

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Re: Lot's of XP Info [Re: bhamdave]
      #59456 - 02/22/03 09:10 PM

If you want to add a new look to your windows (xp) or new wallpaper,icons,logins try these if any ?'s PM me

www.tgtsoft.com
www.wincustomize.com
www.themexp.org

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Re: Lot's of XP Info [Re: bhamdave]
      #59490 - 02/23/03 12:06 AM

Excellent! thank you!!
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Re: Lot's of XP Info [Re: bhamdave]
      #59744 - 02/24/03 09:52 AM

If you are an XP user, my sympathies. Any software product that has needed a major service pack plus 8 (so far) hot fixes was not ready to be released. Although I know lots of people who love it, as a sys admin, give me Windows 2000 Pro any day! Good luck!
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Re: Lot's of XP Info [Re: fred2112]
      #59749 - 02/24/03 10:24 AM

gee thanks. at least it's better than WinMe.

take care,
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Re: Lot's of XP Info [Re: toky20]
      #59779 - 02/24/03 12:11 PM

I'm with you Toky - you know I still have ME and am dying to get rid of it but don't feel like paying for XP...yet.

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Re: Lot's of XP Info [Re: fred2112]
      #59894 - 02/24/03 09:09 PM

Actually I have heard my many the ME has been the worst windows yet and this coming from 95/98 users who are now very excited to be able to use XP. Since XP release it has been nothing but very profesional and very user friendly, it may have a few quirks but nothing will be able to top the experience somebody has with this new version of windows. I feel bad for anybody who still has to use a version of windows that was a throw back to 98. just my opinion but mostly true XP all the way..

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Re: Lot's of XP Info [Re: lovepink]
      #59895 - 02/24/03 09:11 PM

lovepink, no worries I will send you a copy so you don't have to live another day on ME..

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toky20
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Re: Lot's of XP Info [Re: Gottajiboo]
      #59953 - 02/25/03 09:07 AM

and I'd go back to 98 if I could find it. at least my modem stayed connected...

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Re: Lot's of XP Info [Re: toky20]
      #59955 - 02/25/03 09:17 AM

I guess im a dummy, but i still work with old win.98.. and have for 4 years. and suprise. no problems what so ever.. just a dum texas gal christine

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Re: Lot's of XP Info [Re: toky20]
      #59957 - 02/25/03 09:26 AM

Try here and see if this site can help you get the handshake protocols down right.They can also help with dirty packets on a line that can cause a drop off in a few to 15 or 20 minutes.It really should help.
http://808hi.com/56k/site.asp
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Re: Lot's of XP Info [Re: taz]
      #59958 - 02/25/03 09:26 AM

We're not bashing Win 98, just Win ME. ME is to Microsoft what the Edsel was to Ford. Unfortunately I'm one of the "lucky" ME users who bought a new puter with preloaded ME software during the short time it was on the market before Microsoft realized just how screwed up it was. I'd be alot happier with XP or 98, 2nd edition.

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Re: Lot's of XP Info [Re: gwb]
      #59976 - 02/25/03 10:05 AM

hey thanks gwb!! I like the format of XP, but since 98, my dial up has not worked well and it is probably the root cause of my insomnia/anxiety...hehe...

and pink, I know you're not bashing. I lived with WinMe for 3 years. I'm still alive to tell the story tho... so hang in there!

Toky


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Re: Lot's of XP Info [Re: bhamdave]
      #59982 - 02/25/03 10:21 AM

Thanks for the info bhamdave! I've been very pleased with XP since I upgraded. ME was a real bummer.

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Re: Lot's of XP Info [Re: toky20]
      #59998 - 02/25/03 11:36 AM

Toky, no offense intended. I have every flavor of Windows on my network (except 3.1), and a report on my help desk database (300+ computers) shows our most trouble free operating system to be Windows 2000 Professional. It really wasn't marketed to home users, just corporate. Millenium Edition is essentially a warmed over version of Win 98SE with plenty of bugs added IMO. In order of complaints, Win2K has the least, then NT 4.0 Workstation, then Win 98SE, then ME, then WinXP, with Win95 at the bottom of the barrel. WinXP works OK if you have no legacy apps and no legacy hardware. We have both, unfortunately. It is a daily routine to check MS for patches/hotfixes/security updates. In my opinion, XP should have been held back another 6 months in beta testing. We would have gotten a much more robust OS that way. Oh well...

Sincerely,
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Re: Lot's of XP Info [Re: fred2112]
      #60625 - 02/27/03 08:05 PM

I ran WinME for a year - never had any problems.

There's a bit of a catch 22 here. In order to bring these WinXP security issues to light (which make up the majority of the WinXP updates) WinXP would have to be released to the general public. Otherwise these security holes probably wouldn't appear via standard beta testing. Like the professional athlete whose performance is bolstered by improved competition, security holes are only brought to light by those who actively try to exploit them - hackers are bad in the short term but good in the long term. Although they will continually maintain the upper hand in the short term it is through their actions that networks are able to continually improve security precautions.

Most Fortune 500 companies also standardize on the exact same software (apps + OS), by department, for every computer on the network - likewise for hardware, as possible. Rarely, if ever, are employees allowed to load any non-standard software on their work PCs. This makes tech support much easier because settings are all standardized by department.

As the director of your company network you have the ultimate say over company-wide policy (or at least the influence to ultimately determine such a policy). Standardize - pick an OS that works, per department, and adopt standards! Depending upon the budget for your company's networking department, legacy hardware is scary (i'm sure you well understand that) and should be eliminated whenver possible. Unless you have highly specialized CAD hardware or customized manufacturing equipment controlled by legacy software most other hardware issues can be easily rectified cheaply and effectively.

Legacy software is unfortunate but waning - even the most customized software-only developers (such as custom VB apps or dos-based software with pointedly specific applications) are conscious of emerging OS compatibility and technologies. Site-licenses can be expensive but isn't a loss of data even more costly?

Every computer should be running the exact same OS with the exact same software installed in the exact same directories with the exact same specifications and the exact same file-naming conventions. In effect, you want to be able to backup minimum directory hierarchies (saving space and making things easier unless all clients are reading and saving from servers) and "ghost" reinstall if problems arise. But ghost reinstallations often require standardized hardware as well.... is your network hardware standardized or comprised of piecemeal hardware thrown together? I've been there.

Do you have seperate servers for each department that are interconnected? Standard shared client-side folders? A server bank in a central location? RAID support? Tape backups? UPS systems per workstation? Surge protection per workstation? SOP's for all employees who access computers? (I wrote the SOP for my company - hardest thing I've ever done. I'd rather give birth through my penis.)

How many techs work beneath you for individual corporate support? How much easier would their job be if your network conformed to centralized standards?

The only computers that should be exempt from SOP conventions are non-client-side servers and those computers with currently unresolvable legacy issues. Everything else should use the lowest common denominator that retains useful functionality. Like I said before, in many fortune 500 companies this remains windows 95!!!! Alcatel - Windows 95!!

I'm asking these questions not only because I'm personally interested in your situation but also to let non-corporate computer users in on the the kinds of issues confronting a network administrator. I am not questioning your intrinsic knowledge of your own network - these are clearly basic principles understood by all netadmins.

Read about Ernie Ball today in Usatoday? They were hammered by Microsoft by installing single-source OS's on all company computers rather than purchasing a site-license. They have since moved to open-source linux and have saved mucho dinero. Unfortunately it takes a lot to influence corporate to move to an OS that is relatively unfamiliar to most users. A GUI interface like RedHat can fix most user interface issues but .... geez. I could go on forever.

So many options!!!




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Re: Lot's of XP Info [Re: wwwparker]
      #60836 - 02/28/03 01:35 PM

I don't understand very much of wwwparker's post, I just had to care about a small unix network of 5 workstations before I had to retire, and this is 10 years ago. Just FYI: There was a small row because the German parliament (more than 600 members) and the bureaucracy attached to it recently introduced a Linux network against all lobbying of MS. Some people call it a step ahead for mankind.

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Re: Lot's of XP Info [Re: bayerachim]
      #61763 - 03/04/03 07:56 AM

www.deskmod.com
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