summer
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I just got a call from a private investegator claiming to be wkg f/ the gov't in a case against an op that I used a few years back(currently shut down). Said they are looking f/ witnesses etc for the case against these people. Should I be worried? I told them I didn't remember ANYTHING whenever she brought anything up. She seemeed satisfied with that but now I'm a nervous wreck. Anybody w/ similiar experiences or adivice. P/M me if you feel more comfortable
summer
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Sky_Queen
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Yikes. I think you did good. Don't tell them ANYTHING...
Mercy, if I got a phone call like that at my house and my husband answered the phone I'd be in BIG trouble.
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tem33
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If you don't mind could you tell me who the OP was?
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sweat
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Next time ask whats in it for you. Money talks, you know the rest.
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Caveman6666
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You did right. A faulty memory can't be disproved.
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mrchris2
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Sounds like a total crock. The DEA doesn't use private investigators. Someone is trying to get information on an individual for their own reasons. This has nothing to do with the DEA. I wouldn't tell anyone anything. 
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FangZ
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Yikes...and Ditto what everyone said...you have complete memory loss...that would be my story and I'd stick to it.
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daddyj
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That is really weird. The gov't has plenty of investigators like FBI, DEA, etc. Why would they need to hire a private investigator?
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Flowergirl3
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awwwww poo! This type of things scares the hell out of me.
Ditto what the other members suggested.... newly adopted motto is, "I don't recall."
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MrB
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To be very honest I would disregard what is being said here except for the fact that you say nothing. If need be, consult with a lawyer for advice.
If this is about a California OP, there has been quite a bit of this going around.
You do have rights but use common sense as well.
Good Luck.
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summer
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wktkpdr
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Ask them WHERE they got YOUR information from.. There is a data privacy act which prohibits the distribution of some personal information!
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mastertater
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Well "which" government? Municipal? State? Federal?
Feds hiring a P.I. my eye ! lol
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summer
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Question for thought-I have her phone# on my caller Id, it was from Florida. I should block my line and call it and see who or what kind of co answers?
summer
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mastertater
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And you can call 1411 (I think that's the number I use) to determine the name and address of the person(s) who the number belongs to, unless it was a cell phone call or a call placed from an extension (like a company with multiple lines). Just ask the operator for the name and/or address listed for the number you want to find out about.
Yep Yep Summer, I'd use the *67 code to block your number and see who answers (I think that's the right code). Or I'd have a friend use their cell phone (or I'd just use my own) since some people will not answer calls that don't appear on their caller I.D. (and some cell phones do not allow an I.D. to display).
My cell phone has the option of letting my number display on the I.D. of the persons I call. Regardless, the person you call, using a cell phone, can't get any info about you based on a cell phone number ( the 1411 operators cannot give anybody information about the user of a cell phone - not with existing technology as I understand it). Anyway that's how I handle these matters.
I used to be a medical practitioner and would not give out my home number since I was frequently on call, and would get very puzzling calls, and I.D. displays that I would need to check out (those calls coming through other than from the answering service who connects the caller with me).
By this I just mean to say that I wouldn't, while on call, answer the phone unless it was from the answering service. Too often I would receive calls from patients who were able to find my phone number. So that's how I know about some of these methods concerning anonymity. Anyway I think this nuisance call you got was a deception. No telling who is trying to find out what. Anyway, as wktpdr (above post) said "...There is a data privacy act which prohibits the distribution of some personal information!" For those who want to know more about this look up HIPPA (health care portability act, which is going to make confidentiality almost a 'sacred' thing). However the homeland security act is going to throw a lot of wrenches into the implementation of HIPPA protocols for all health care providers IMO.
Now assuming some government is indeed trying to discover facts, the worst that could happen to you is, I think, having to give your deposition, wherein lawyers would only find out that you have some kind of cognitive deficiency and thus your testimony is useless lol
Further, toward that end, if 'she' calls you again tell her you don't even remember talking to her before hehehe
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sophiagrace
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FYI on confidentiality here in Kansas...A law is getting ready to be passed where all medical info can and will be released to anyone. I am not sure what other states entail, but I know for a fact here, I have been speaking to many people on this matter, for my daughters sake. She has had serious health problems, which is none of anyones business, with the sensitivity of the whole thing.It might be worth checking out individual states....
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MrB
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That was a pretty big bust so now I really on't know what would be happening. It was a DEA bust but I doubt they would be looking for witnesses.
Just remember that you have rights and the right to remain silent is one of them.
Don't stress out too much.
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novashok88
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Just tell them you can't remember because of all the benzos you got & ate from all those pharms you no longer remember... benzos DO wreck your memory, although when you're deep in their clutches you are the last one to know it. Ask a daily benzo-user what the dumbest thing they ever did while on them. The stories are leigon & tell quite a tale. My latest benzo problem? Took 2 bromazepam becaue it had been a very stressful day, next thing I know my wedding ring is not on my finger. Where? Only Dog knows. A mega-expensive hunk of custom-engraved platnium band, encircled with 2 intertwined dragons & knots is now lost.. Waaah doesn't begin to cover it.  So needless to say, "I was on medication which wiped my memory & I don't remember a darn thing! Maybe I should be sueing somebody for THAT" could be a valid argument.
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sly176541
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Well let me set a few things straight.
The Privacy act does not, I REPEAT does not apply to federal agencies dealing with foreign countries. Also, if this is a federal gov. calling, they have an automatice trace that cannot be avoided. the block call routine does not work for them. I can't imagine who would be doing this, but take it from someone who has been through this several times with the feds, our gov. will not spend time and money calling people trying to get dirt on op's.
You did the smart thing by having amnesia, but stay smart, and don't do another thing. This will go away.
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If you're still burning with curiosity on who it was that called you (and if I rec'd a call like that I sure as heck would be), go out and buy a 5 cents-a-minute $5 phone card and call from a pay phone and see who picks up. Have scripts (not like prescriptions but like movie scripts )in your head as far as trying to ply info from the convo depending on who answers...that is, if you don't just hang up or pull a 'I sorry, I wing da wong numbah?'
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caramello51
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i'll second that advice. or just forget about the whole thing. i had a phone call once, freaked me out till i started getting mad at the intrusion and questions that didn't deserve to be asked, when i got aggressive the guy hung up. go figure.
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butalbee
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Yep, on wednesday, a friend of mine who got a phone call, like the one you did. She has caller ID. On her phone was the # which when we called back, using # 67 first, was the US ATTORNEY GENERAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My friend doesn't remember the site that they mentioned, she was pretty much freaked out, but they wanted her to testify.....Also said, that the site was closed down. So I will guess, my best guess, that it is younglifestyles, aka Mr. Beno. But I am horrified to order anything from any site. I didn't get a call, though. Should I be concerned? What could they really do to me? I don't know the laws, although for the medication I get, I do have a valid doctors prescription. You can PM me, if you'd prefer if you have any questions., I don't really feel comfortable saying too much at this pt online...Thanks.
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Trampy
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Nobody here said DEA hired him, but it is true that a prosecutor would only in very exceptional circumstances use a private investigater ... the govt. has plenty of people they could use outside of the prosecutor and police.
Now ... it is true that the call may have been made by a govt. investigator or cop who said he was private ... but it was not true.
Also, a private investigator can be hired by the defense attorneys.
Either way, govt. or private, they may not be truthful in what they tell you.
Sounds fishy that they did it by phone also. Very fishy. almost any real investigator would come in person, preferably suprising you. They judge your non-verbal reation as well as what you say. Hard to do over the phone.
Then, on the other hand, in a criminal case, the evidence would usually be sealed until the trial. So the *only* ones who have access to those customer lists would be the prosecution and the defense. Yes, if it's the prosecution's evidence they do have to share it with defense counsel.
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As usual Trampy..your right on target here...have you thought about the fact, that is if it wasn't the DEA, that FP-Np are up for trial Mr. Fauks has been emailing pretty much everyone.. ...could it be that maybe they are now resorting to phone calls...glad I changed my last year...god this is really werid...you did the right thing Summer...good/great job....Boo
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Quan
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A law is geting ready to be passed where all medical info can and will be released to anyone.
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With all due respect to Kansans, the Kansas Legislature must be out of their mind lunatics. The ultra-sensitive nature of some illnesses (such as genital deformities, horrible lesions, mental and emotional crises, and many, many more) DEMANDS Doctor/Patient confidentiality.
For heaven's sake I don't even tell the recpetionist why I am seeing the Doc. I merely politely say that, "this is between me and the Doc, thankyou".
Oh well, this subject is worthy of its' own thread. I only know this; if this law is passed a blackmarket/underground medical community will will grow with vigor and robustness.
Fight the good fight,
Best Regards,
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DTZNuff
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I would have to agree. Every time that I call in to the Docs office to see him or get a precsription filled they ask me what it is for. I think that it is none of their Best if kept off the board business and it is between me and the doctor and I tell them that. But they still ask me every time that I call. Go figure.
That is why I'm using OP's.
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Luthien
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Whoa....as if we aren't paranoid enough! I'd freak if I got such a call...but I wouldn't spill any info, and just for my curiosity, I'd try to find who the caller was.....anonymously, of course.
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Trampy
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I would have to agree. Every time that I call in to the Docs office to see him or get a precsription filled they ask me what it is for.
I had a prescription for my *cat* that i had to bring to Walgreens. It was not a controlled substance. But they still DID ask me what it was for. When i said the cat was diagnosed with "obsessive-compulsive disorder," she shook her head and asked me why they couldn't make it something simpler to spell, like "depression" or "anxiety." I said, call the vet if you don't like it.
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Luthien
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Summer, I have access at my office to a nationwide computer database with phone numbers....if you'd like, I can try doing a search -- although I kinda doubt the number would come up, though. But if your curiosity still is burning -- and I know mine would be -- feel free to PM me with the number.
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colbycheese
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O.K., this is a little off topic but Quan gets 2 thumbs up for his analogy of the Kansas legislature. Our rights are guaranteed, and this is not what so many have fought & died for. Not to be trampled on. This would almost be enough for me to move outta Kansas! How anybody can justify making my medical conditions public is beyond me.
Trampy,
Here, here for your sound advice to Walgreens & their pharmacist. I had one actually call my doctor and tell the doc he thought I was getting too much of a particular med. This was a long time ago at a chain pharmacy, and I'm still pissed! Too many of these pharmacists think they're doctors, and they're far to nosy. I actually complained to the Manager of the store and he SUSPENDED the pharmacist, so I know they're not allowed to go that far, but I told the guy he has no business looking up my prescription history and calling my doctor. "Just fill the F+++ING prescription!" I'm so tired of the unwanted medical advice from any putz who put's on a lab coat and a fake smile. My advice to all, find a local mom & pop pharmacy & start frequenting them. They're usually glad to have your business, less hassle, and more interested in doing what they're paid to do. FILL PRESCRIPTIONS!
As far as the phone call from the "Gov't P.I.". I wouldn't give this guy a pot to Best if kept off the board in. Anyway, it sounds totally bogus, as most Gov't agencies don't use P.I.'s.
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