arabhorse
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Here's another "Caution: Pedant Ahead" type post...
This is more of a suggestion regarding how we as posters can help to improve the site vs. something DB can control, but...
There's a lot of great information here and I've benefitted from the insight, knowledge and experience of my fellow posters on many an occasion. However, I think if some of you paid more attention to your grammar and spelling the information provided would seem a lot more credible. For example, I cannot count how many times 'their' and 'there' are mixed up. People, 'Their' is possessive, i.e. "Their prices on the benzos are excellent". They're is a contraction for "they are", for example "They're making some changes to the website to simplify the ordering process". "There" denotes a place, i.e., "Check Pharmagroup.com, I think you can find what you're looking for there". The word also can be used like: "There are many places which offer codeine for much less than their site does". Oh yeah, speaking of you're...that's another one that drives me up a wall when reading posts (and not just here either; this seems to be a ubiquitous error in the internet lingua franca...) "You're": A contraction, as in "You're (you are) receiving your (possessive) meds more quickly than I am for some reason. What part of the country are you in?". Not "Your a great guy".. it's "You're a great guy".
Thanks for listening to my rant. I know I'm certainly not perfect either, and get lazy sometimes...and yeah, I think it's cool to just kick it and speak/type casually and in the vernacular. I'm not trying to be a grammar cop and I'm not saying we all have to talk like English teachers. However, when discussing subject matter such as that which is discussed on this site, I think it's important to be as clear as possible when presenting our knowledge, ideas and experiences and to seem informed when we are trying to inform each other. I tend to trust someone's information more and respect them more when they show verbal proficiency that's at least at some basic level...can we try to make an effort and take just a bit of time to edit our posts a little more carefully? Thanks all...
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bhamdave
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You have to learn to read.........between.......over.......under......and thru the lines.
This is not Eng101...............didn't like it in school........and I don't care to or want to take it now. Not being ugly just telling the truth.
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Beetlenut
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Yes, I couldn't agree with you more but it's not going to happen. People get very stuck in their ways. Anymore, I just cringe  and read fast instead of being appalled  .
There's a member here who constantly uses the "word" webcite in his posts. After kidding around with him via a pm, he still did not change it. Our pms were fun and casual. I even explained the difference in meaning between site and cite .
He still uses webcite  .
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Jordan530
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When I first read your post, I wasn't going to respond. However, my mouth sometimes seems to be a little bigger than my judgement or lack thereof. LOL But, I just have to say.... I've been surfing the net for many, many years and posting on boards for just as many. I have probably seen every 'variation' of spelling that there is, and I have to admit that poor spellers sometimes irritate me also. BUT, we have to keep in mind that this *is* the net. There are people out there from all walks of life and not everyone has been fortunate enough to have had an extended education. I am a college graduate, but I still make many typos and quite often have to grab the dictionary before I post a word now and then.
My significant other comes from an extremely large family and had to go out and work to help support all of them and was denied the benefit of alot of schooling. He can't spell worth beans but he does know how to work hard, so in turn, he does very well for himself in spite his lack of education.
Anyway, I guess the point I'm trying to make to my rambling here is that I believe we should overlook the words mispelled, the grammatical errors and look more into the worth of the person.
I know you didn't mean to hurt anyone by your post. It's just that perhaps we sometimes need a reminder that we are on this board (and planet) to support one another. Not to police their grammar. 
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Sky_Queen
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The spelling part is easy to fix. I made a post a while back about a spell checker but it wasn't very popular. It's free and easy to download and use. All you do is right click on your "box" after you have your post typed in and it will check the spelling. DB also has a check spelling button you can click on. Either one. Easy to use and no biggy.
Check it out: www.iespell.com
As far as grammar goes....well, nobody is perfect, right? I guess it's the thought that counts and we always know what the poster is trying to say even if they aren't using the proper grammar.
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DrugBuyers
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Our board has a spell checker, it is not great but it is there..
We do not expect members to use it!
As long as members have something to say we do not care one bit if their spelling, or grammar is not perfect. We do not even mind if it is a disaster... :-)
Please keep on posting, do not worry about the spelling, or the proper grammar, we are here for the info...
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Tuttle
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I really can't believe my eyes......you are worried about the way people are spelling? Do I really have this right?
I am not trying to be nasty, but you really need to think before you write things like this, not everyone in life was fortunate enough to get an education. Learn to be more tolerant of others in life it will take you far.
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TLT
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I think this is being a bit picky. Not everyone is fortunate enough to have a formal education. Although i have a high school diploma and 2 years of college, i still have problems with spelling. This is a great site, we shouldn't focus on the negative things.
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toky20
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Perhaps this is part of the problem: the majority of responses here seem to imply that one needs a "formal" or "extended" education in order to spell. What's at stake here is more than just a few grammatical errors: it's a society that passes kids through school even though they can't show proficiency in basic skills such as reading, writing, and (a)'rithmetic.
I am fortunate in that spelling and grammar have always come somewhat easily to me. This was true even before I was passed on to the 4th grade. When online, however, I tend to abbreviate a lot and use acronyms that would not be acceptable on a written cover letter or other communication. So while I can relate to the annoyances of reading poor grammer and spelling, I must admit that it's not fair to "judge the book by its cover". To do so would be akin to assuming that because I am blonde and well-developed, I must be a ditz.
Oh, there's no such word as "alot", and "it's" and "its" get terribly misused in every medium that I see. Let's just keep the information flowing, shall we?
Take Care,
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DTZNuff
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Everyone needs to chill a little bit.
Correct spelling is not that big of deal...
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Beetlenut
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Excellent, excellent post. Point well taken!
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baddad56
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Wuz thet eye before ee? Or tha othor way round'? LOL
I do try to watch my grammer but my mind is alot quicker than my fingers.
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arabhorse
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I wish some of you would go back and read my post a bit more carefully. Of course the primary benefit of this site is the information and experiences contained therein. That is why I qualified my post right at the beginning by saying yes, this is a minor issue and yes, I've learned and benefitted a lot from even the most egregiously, erroneously worded posts. Sometimes the most informative posts can be not even full words, i.e., "Ord 01/25 rec 01/31 great pkging, honest OP!". My post's conclusion was a request to 'make an effort' and 'take just a bit of time' to be a bit more careful with our posts. That isn't so much to ask, is it? That doesn't demean or take away from anyone's humanity or, as you worded it Jordan, 'worth as a person'. Certainly we all come from different socioeconomic backgrounds and have had different educational experiences. However, I'm not talking about the ability to spell "benzodiazepine" or "ankylosing spondylitis" off the top of your head or even to know what those words mean. I'm talking 5th grade English, not Eng101, and K-12 is free. I do agree with you, toky, that it's probably more of a societal criticism than anything, and perhaps that's what prompted me to post something like this in the first place...I'm painfully aware of the scourge of adult illiteracy in the United States as well as the educational system that rivals those in "third world" countries vs. those in the other "1st world" countries (and Cuba, etc etc) with which such a materially wealthy society such as this should be ranked. We're about to go to war with a country that a vast majority of our citizens couldn't even find on the map if it was multiple choice and are conditioned to be too apathetic to care anyway. So no, I am not trying to blame anyone here, or any individual at all for that matter, for systemic, institutionalized failures within our society. What I am trying to do, however, is simply to encourage those of us who communicate via the internet in this written medium known as a discussion board, where thoughts and experiences are shared through written language, to try and collectively improve the way we write. This includes making gentle suggestions which might help someone learn something they might not have known before. I don't think that's 'intolerant', Tuttle, and again I've already said it's not the biggest deal in the world to me, as evidenced by the fact I've now devoted a whole whopping 2 out of about 160 posts (that's...help me out math whizzes...about 1%?) to anything other than how and where to obtain prescription drugs, the effects of medication, all the other topics for which we all meet and share here. I've already acknowledged that carelessly worded posts and terrible abuses of the English language are common to just about any board/chat room...fortunately most of you here at DB are well-spoken, clear, thoughtful, wise and experienced and we all learn from each other...I know there are those here from many countries and continents, those for whom English isn't their first language (some of whom speak it better than we USA 'natives' ), people from all walks of life and we should welcome them all with open arms because just about everyone has something to offer even if it's not worded or spelled exactly right. I don't give a rat's butthair either if you're 'perfect' or disastrous as long as your info is good, you're friendly, and you're here to share, but if it only takes a moment to think about what you're writing and you have the ability to write it well, it would benefit us all and make DB even better than it already is if you would do so.
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bayerachim
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Before I joined DB, I didn't look much at German forums or newsgroups, so I can't say much about the grammar problem here in Germany (it seems to be deplorable).
At first I was surprised how spelling and grammar are neglected at DB, but I'm used to it now. And IMO there are some very handicapped members who really can't use their keyboard correctly for physical reasons. And who can post correctly while having withdrawal symptoms etc.? In 99% of these cases I understand what people want to say and that's the most important thing. If a major part of the posters were not suffering from very different diseases, they would most likely not log in at DB.
I would just be satisfied if more members would type correct and complete URLs.
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toky20
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Arabhorse,
great commentary!! Thanks!
Bayerachim, I agree that the url's are the most important.
Wanna see how I usually type/? this is it! hehe.....and in the morning, before those meds hit,my hands are just not good at all!
take care all...
toky
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toe
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I will have my Doctorate in Philosophy in 2.5 years (pending, uh, dissertation.).
I hear that you are frustrated with your you're their they're there its it's psychiastriast psychiatrist complications and I feel your pain. Really. I had an MRI last Tuesday and I can formally confirm that improper grammar may be linked to a pain in the butt.
I prescribe 2 mg alprazolazam tid prn 60 w/ unlimited refills. See forae above for pharmacies with which to fill this script.
Please be aware that this information is intended for adult entertainment purposes only and provided by a lowly Master of the Arts.
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lakjaw
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*snerk* Arabhorse, paragraphs are our friends!
I see both the humour and the irritation in this topic. I'm a medical transcriptionist who had a reputation for absolute perfection, but various health problems and brainfog have definitely put a crimp in that reputation.
As far as "formal education" is concerned - I was a perfect speller right from the beginning, but I also have a strange ability to learn other languages somewhat in the manner of a sponge soaking up water. Not everyone is like that, and there seems to be very little emphasis upon excelling or striving for excellence in this day and age. Another possible reason for the spelling deficiency is the tendency to get our entertainment from passive mediums (television, movies) rather than from well-written books.
Those who care may take a bit more time with their notes. Those who don't care, will complain. Those who write notes in support of your original thesis will likely fall prey to what we, in the forum I usually inhabit, call "Phil's Law": when attempting to correct a particularly egregious spelling error, we will usually make one of our own. Because of that, we tend to throw in at least one purposely misspelled werd.
At any rate, being a Type Double-A, I enjoyed your initial note and your follow-up note. For those of you who didn't, chuckle and move on. There's nothing to see here!
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krocus36
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I want to be one to apologize for my grammer. I know I can't spell or put words the right way (as you can tell). I had to quit school in the 7th grade and go to work in a rock quarry for one baby girl reason. I would not be at this website if I had an education that I would not have had to work labor all my life.
I do understand how it can get very irritating and I for one am sorry but I cannot help how I spell, compose??? a sentance, paragraph, or novel:)(BTW my book will be out in June!!!). Actually I did get my GED and did pass the first time but it did not help my english. I like posting and talking to others that suffer like me it does help and should not matter how you write just as long as the point or question has been made to where people can understand what you are talking about.
I have always wanted to apologize for this but nothing has ever been posted until now. So in one way I am glad you posted this.
P.S thanks for the grammer lesson I did read it and tried to understand it (not being sarcastic at all) but man, that is like Japaness to me.
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fluffyfeller
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Krocus,
There is nothing wrong with your grammar or spelling. A couple of typos here and there is all. You certainly use the English language better than most college graduates I've met. In fact, one of my sons with too many degrees never capitalizes anything and is a lousy speller. He has great oral command of the English language but is just careless in writing. If it isn't DNA, RNA or some other weird thing, he could care less. And once I had a boss that was an absolutely brilliant tax/accounting guy. Great personality too. But I couldn't understand a thing the guy wrote. It was like a 2nd grader's letter-writing ability. Horrible! How he ever got out of college and got a CPA is beyond me!
So don't apologize for what you think is bad grammar. It's not.
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bhamdave
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No matter what it is...............grammer,spelling,writing,reading,listening.....etc.
It's called "Individuality".
individuality
1. distinctive or unique character or personality: a work of great individuality.
2. the qualities that distinguish one person or thing from another; identity.
3. the state or quality of being a separate entity; discreteness.
That's what makes up the world.
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baddad56
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Don't sweat it Krocus. Your grammer is fine and this AIN'T a proper English board. Post anyway you can. 
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fluffyfeller
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Bhamdave,
You've summed up the topic eloquently. Great job. I think it's what we all wanted to say, but we didn't express it as well as you did.
Thanks!
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Beetlenut
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Krocus:
You needn't apologize EVER for your grammar.
You know why? Your post really got me in the gut. And that's TRULY the power of the written word.
Post away !
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Biff
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Right you are Beetlenut. Abraham Lincoln's famous speech "The Gettysburg Address" is absolutely full of grammatical errors. Ole' Abe wrote it himself and from his heart, disregarding all the rules of grammar...he didn't know the rules. And a good thing he didn't as the "Gettysburg Address" became one of the most famous, beautiful, eloquent, inspiring, timeless and admired speeches of all time. Just for fun put the "Gettysburg Address" through a grammar check on the computer and see what happens. You end up with a limp, stale, dull, lifeless, boring speech that is 100% grammatically correct! Everyone try it and see for yourself. I'm glad ole' Abe didn't have a two-bit grammar critic to edit his masterpiece into grammatically correct ruin. And so is History.
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heidiho
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Hola mi amigos!,
If people could look past the grammatical errors and see the spirit of the post possibly they would see that the letter of the word is not a important as the spirit of the word.
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arabhorse
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*simply rolls eyes at all the histrionic melodrama and decides people's reading comprehension is at about the same level as their language skills. Oh well...if you can't beat em join em* Abe Linkin!!!my fav band Linkin Park was naymed after him!!!!! Your like so rite about them Bif!! Like Bif Nakid!!!! U ever herd theremusic?the one that goes lalala la la uh uh uh lala la-la-laThat won iz da jamz!!!!!!lolololNEwayIwantedtotell uallaboutthiskreize pharmicy theyofferoxy,hydroe,zanex(sp?)andcheeptoo it is ,(sp?)youshoudrealygotherecuztheyhavegoodcockmeddisin
thats a goodpointbout individalty,imeanifweall talked the waywe wantedto we cvood all be speeking like diffreint langwidges whocares if we cod underdstend eachother at all? Imean why bother riting good,or haveing good grammer,only nurds have good grammer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!nyerds!!!!!!ryhmeswith terds!!!!lmaololololo dood I crackmyselfup!!!! I mainlythingk MATH shoud be about indavidgualitee too!!!!!Like einstine,whatever!!!!!Imean wwho gives a shiznitabout 2+2. or tymestabels or anyof that krep! Howis that rellievent to my life huh??????MAtH is disined by the man humself to keep us all down!!!!it's like everywon just be goodligttle boys and gerls and learnyoer math tabels and youu can be a nurd just like me!!!!I am SOsmarter then everywonelse look at me,whoopdefukendoo:;&Iknowmytymestables& !!!!! 2+2 should be whativerwe wannit 2 bthewourld would be a LOT easyer that way!!!!!Nobuddy lissen too thet Aribhoars,hejust a hata!!!He prably likes Osammabinlodden!!!I think wee sjhoud just nook all tho s e basterds neway,thenm and the dam Izraylies!!!!!thenwe coud get beck to the GOOD stuf on the news like Joey buttafewko and ChondraLevery and MOnikaLlewynske!!!Iggnerence is blis!!! Thank gawd for prezidence like AbeLinkinwho stoodup to all there commyunists and there grammerweilding freinds!!!Thay hait peeple jus ciz thay cant spell!!!how rood!!!!!EdjewKayshun is fer wussys!!!!!
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toky20
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"EdjewKayshun is fer wussys!!!!! "
I think you've really defined yourself with this one!
Take Care,
Toky
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Sky_Queen
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Whew! That gave me a headache
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lakjaw
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"thats a goodpointbout individalty,imeanifweall talked the waywe wantedto we cvood all be speeking like diffreint langwidges whocares if we cod underdstend eachother at all? Imean why bother riting good,or haveing good grammer,only nurds have good grammer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
*snerk* Who said that the use of multiple exclamation points is the sign of a diseased mind?
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geckogecko
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i think it is. to hades with exclaimation points. sorry but i cannot use my shift key. otherwise, my post would be impeccable. this is because i am a spelling/grammar nutcase--usually a perfectionist of the written word. but that is me. if you're not, i don't care. right now i am trying to breathe as the absence of capitals is an eyesore.
the point about those without sufficient education--i shouldn't think that anyone here supports bad grammar or spelling, but that they understand why it happens and don't expect that it will simply go away with a little more concentration. some people do graduate high school without ever having read an entire book, and that is a sad fact. but really, it is more so, like others have said, a much bigger socio-economic problem than it is a mere lack of concern for one's posting abilities.
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