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badbunny
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Rohypnol, the Feds, and you!
      #30815 - 09/19/02 09:54 AM

To all you fellas who think stories like pfree's Just Can't Happen to Me, I offer the following link...

http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/DailyNews/daterape020919.html

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LumbarSpasm
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Re: Rohypnol, the Feds, and you! [Re: badbunny]
      #30825 - 09/19/02 10:47 AM

Thanks for the link!
The article references GHB though.

When I heard it on the local news I first thought of "R" too.

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ImodiumAD
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Re: Rohypnol, the Feds, and you! [Re: LumbarSpasm]
      #31037 - 09/20/02 02:00 PM

GHB is worthless anyway.. Rohypnol is CI in some states

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zeuzjuz
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Re: Rohypnol, the Feds, and you! [Re: badbunny]
      #31047 - 09/20/02 03:03 PM

This doesn't have anything to do with OP's, domestic or international.... This apparently was some place disguised as a cleaning supplies company, in the U.S - sending the 'ingredients' to make GHB - So in answer to the original post, this has absolutely nothing to do with 'pfree's post.... Like apples and oranges. Doesn't even relate to OP's....

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zeuzjuz
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Re: Rohypnol, the Feds, and you! [Re: badbunny]
      #31048 - 09/20/02 03:09 PM

Still an interesting link though - thanks for the link.... I was just saying, GHB is not a pharmaceutical med per se..... But this is still interesting - alot of raver kids and steroid heads use GHB I've heard.

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Re: Rohypnol, the Feds, and you! [Re: zeuzjuz]
      #31058 - 09/20/02 04:37 PM

zeuz,

Actually GHB is a pharmaceutical drug, recently approved by the FDA for treatment of narcolepsy/cataplexy.
The drug is called "XYREM" and is manufactured by
Orphan Medical. XYREM is GHB. Additonally GHB has been a pharmaceutical drug in Europe for many years now, prescribed for insomnia, alcohol detox etc. In France it is often prescribed for opiod/heroin detox as it relieves most of the withdrawal symptons.

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mastertater
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Re: Rohypnol, the Feds, and you! [Re: Biff]
      #31111 - 09/20/02 09:40 PM

This is confusing. GHB is not the same as Rohypnol but this thread confuses them it appears to me. I thought I'd just add
that it's my understanding the Rohypnol is a benzo (hypnotic), and a notorious date rate drug that is legal outside of USA (Europe for instance). I'd stear clear of any of these drugs, and I know our politicians, and rightly so IMO, have an interest in showing they are serious about people who deal in these drugs (not bad in and of themselves, but that's reality today). Hopefully, the dust will clear on some of the beneficial 'uses' of GHB, etc etc. Lots of these kinds of drugs are only scheduled I because of the sensational press and the DEA decides to outlaw them based on their right to impose restrictions on a drug on a temporary basis.


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Trampy
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Re: Rohypnol, the Feds, and you! [Re: Biff]
      #31113 - 09/20/02 09:51 PM

Yeah. GHB was discovered in France and has been sold as a pharmaceutical there for almost 20 years.

It's really really sad that they arrested Daniel Pelchat in Canada. He stopped selling his GHB kits to U.S. customers a long time ago. Very frightening! His arrest means that a person can follow the law and be arrested anyway:
http://www.chemsuppliers.com/labs/index.html

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malconfig
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Re: Rohypnol, the Feds, and you! [Re: mastertater]
      #31161 - 09/21/02 10:27 AM

Rohypnol is certainly not "legal" in the UK! It *is* licenced for the treatment of insomnia etc, but unlike most other benzo's it is a "controlled drug" which means much more serious repercussions if you're caught with it without a script. Personally, I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole!

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ImodiumAD
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Re: Rohypnol, the Feds, and you! [Re: malconfig]
      #31181 - 09/21/02 12:33 PM

in the U.S it is apparently legal in some states and not in others(so I read)..... its a great benzo for what its intended....

ANY benzo can be used for 'date rape' since they all do the same thing to different degrees...

Barbituates are much worst than Rohypnol I think(well, for date rape, and suicide)...then again those work great for what there intended...


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Re: Rohypnol, the Feds, and you! [Re: ImodiumAD]
      #31295 - 09/22/02 04:13 PM

NUMBER 1 DATE RAPE DRUG = ALCOHOL!!, hands down..... And this can be bought at the corner store.... Alcohol has been used to 'get laid' for centuries.....

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Re: Rohypnol, the Feds, and you! [Re: zeuzjuz]
      #31296 - 09/22/02 04:15 PM

BTW, if anyone needs chemicals to get a girl to have intercourse with them, they either need to find a new girl, or a new approach..... "Date-Rape" has always been such a weird term to me...... It's sad that it does happen - but I would in all seriousness say that Alcohol is used for this purpose MUCH more often than rohypnol, GHB, or any other chemical......


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Re: Rohypnol, the Feds, and you! [Re: ImodiumAD]
      #31303 - 09/22/02 04:42 PM

Rohypnol is illegal to possess. It is not legal anywhere in the USA.

Edited by Billyl (09/22/02 04:57 PM)


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Trampy
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Re: Rohypnol, the Feds, and you! [Re: zeuzjuz]
      #31304 - 09/22/02 04:44 PM

Well, when it comes to U.S. drug laws, it's hard to find things to be grateful for ... but the Hilary Farias Date Rape Act is sex-neutral and drug-neutral. The "date rape" part of that law just says that it's a felony to use ANY controlled substance to aid in the commission of ANY crime of violence. Kind of hard to vote against that one, eh? Congress decided to leave all the usual alcohol-assisted date rapes to the state courts to sort out. They're not as dumb as they look, after all, huh?

Like Dorothy Parker said, "Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker." Congressmen know that as well as anybody.

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Re: Rohypnol, the Feds, and you! [Re: ImodiumAD]
      #31305 - 09/22/02 04:51 PM

GHB is used in Europe as a anti-depressant. There are literally hundreds of medical refrences and studies that have been done on it and it's safety when used properly. In Europe it is thought of as a miracle drug and it is inexpensive. The Date rape act that was enacted 2.5 years ago is another example of this governments idea of protecting us from ourselves many doctors testified against scheduling GHB at the hearings it fell on deaf ears. There is a version of GHB that recently got FDA approval for treating sleeping disorders the drug is heavily controlled and is in pill form.

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Re: Rohypnol, the Feds, and you! [Re: zeuzjuz]
      #31312 - 09/22/02 05:58 PM

I have to answer your post - as an old female (even though my handle implies otherwise).

You are absolutely correct in your assumption. Don't get me wrong - I do like my wine more so than any pills. Alcohol is the best medicine for whatever, and I imagine it's also used for sexual or other abuse. But it's legal. Prohibition did not get rid of it.

You are correct - for centuries alcohol has been the number 1 abuse .



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Re: Rohypnol, the Feds, and you! [Re: fluffyfeller]
      #31320 - 09/22/02 07:44 PM

No Friends, MONEY (and the power it creates) Is The Most Dangerous Drug On This Planet! Human Pursuit Of It Has Killed More Men, Raped More Women, Murdered More Children and Left More People Hungry & Homeless Than Any Mere Chemical Concoction We Have Ever Devised!!! Sadly, OLD

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Re: Rohypnol, the Feds, and you! [Re: OLD]
      #31325 - 09/22/02 08:51 PM

a lot of good points to ponder here on this thread. seems like some good things to keep in mind. thanks for sharing your thoughts.

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ImodiumAD
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Re: Rohypnol, the Feds, and you! [Re: Billyl]
      #31345 - 09/23/02 09:49 AM

Billy...look here....

http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/drugs_concern/roypnol/summary.htm

Its illegal in some states (CI)

Otherwise ifs its a lower schedule it can be prescribed.....


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Re: Rohypnol, the Feds, and you! [Re: ImodiumAD]
      #31346 - 09/23/02 09:56 AM

a thing to add.....it can be prescribed by a FOREIGN physician and then then sent into the U.S. to you.....

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Re: Rohypnol, the Feds, and you! [Re: ImodiumAD]
      #31395 - 09/23/02 05:53 PM


MEMORANDUM FOR ALL UNITED STATES ATTORNEYS

FROM: THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

SUBJECT: Drug-Induced Violent Crime Prosecutions


The Drug-Induced Rape Prevention and Punishment Act of 1996 (Act), 21 U.S.C. Sec. 841(b)(7), provides criminal penalties of up to 20 years imprisonment for any person who distributes a controlled substance, such as Rohypnol, to a person with the intent to commit a crime of violence, including rape. The Act does not federalize any new conduct inasmuch as the distribution of a controlled substance is already a federal crime. It does, however, establish the basis for harsher penalties under federal law if the distribution facilitates a violent crime.

In cases of drug-induced violence, the likely Sentencing Guidelines range for the actual drug distribution will generally be very low, since the drug quantity involved will generally be in the range of a single dosage unit. To avoid this problem, the Sentencing Commission has established that the range be based not on the drug guidelines, see USSC Sec. 2D1.1, but rather on the guidelines for an attempt, solicitation or conspiracy relating to the underlying substantive crime of violence. USSC Sec. 2D1.1(d)(2). Those guidelines, in turn, establish the guidelines range at or near the guidelines range for the underlying substantive crime itself, particularly if the underlying crime of violence was completed. USSC Sec. 2X1.1. You should be aware, moreover, that penalty enhancements are available under Title 21 for subsequent offenses involving Rohypnol (referred to in the statute by its chemical name flunitrazepam). See 21 U.S.C. § 841 (b)(1)(C-D).

I fully recognize that the vast majority of crimes which could be charged under the Act are, and will continue to be, prosecuted by state and local prosecutors. Nonetheless, I want to make certain that our state and local law enforcement partners are aware of the statute and know that they can call upon you in those cases where there is an appropriate federal interest in prosecution. There are, of course, many factors that govern whether federal prosecution is warranted in a particular case. Ultimately, these decisions should be made as part of your overall collaborative planning with your state and local law enforcement partners, to make certain that limited law enforcement resources are most effectively targeted at priority criminal justice problems.

The Narcotic and Dangerous Drug Section of the Criminal Division, in conjunction with the Terrorism and Violent Crime Section, is responsible for coordination in this program area and you should contact either section if you have any questions.

I appreciate your willingness to work on developing areas of the law and the enhanced collaboration with our state and local law enforcement partners in which so many of you have engaged.

cc: Honorable James Doyle
Attorney General of Wisconsin
and President of the National
Association of Attorneys General

Honorable William Murphy
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Re: Rohypnol, the Feds, and you! [Re: ImodiumAD]
      #31399 - 09/23/02 06:14 PM

As i get tired of pointing out so many times to people who should know better .... flunitrazepam is a DEA C-IV ... but with uniquely harsh penalties for a C-IV, to put it mildly.

There were simply too many different state legislatures for the Roche lobbyists to cover ... so ... some of them made it a state C-I, despite whatever lobbyists do to protect a good sleeping pill from the worldwide stigma of being a DEA C-I.

... and the FDA has prohibited its manufacture and its prescription. And the DEA does not allow it to be imported. And according to Customs, it is contraband. Foreign visitors to the U.S. with scrips for it from foreign doctors will have the drug confiscated before they can enter the country.

Yes, it's confusing. But everything i say above is true.

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Re: Rohypnol, the Feds, and you! [Re: Trampy]
      #31431 - 09/23/02 11:31 PM

Gotta love our good Gov't! I know Billy will argue with me on this but, hey whatever man!!!!!! ajs

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