MikeyB827
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Hi,
Do any of you know if Suboxone is available in Mexico (Acapulco, Cabo San Lucas, Mazatlan)? If so, is it available over-the-counter or is a prescription required? Thanks in advance for any help!
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jsumner
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I bet you probably already know this but Suboxone has bupe and Naloxone in it. The Naloxone is Narcan if memory serves me right. This will send you into immediate withdrawals. Now Subutex is straight Bupe so you might want to get that instead. Though remember that Bupe is an antagonist and will also get you sick to a certain extent depending on how much agonist your body needs. Hope this is right and feel free to correct my errors everyone. Me, I prefer to leave the antagonists alone.
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MikeyB827
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jsumner,
thanks for the info. i am aware of the different combinations in each. i'd like to take a 'hydro holiday' in order to rid my body of hydrocodone since i'm developing a bit of a tolerance. the suboxone will help me to get off of it without getting sick (if i can find the stuff anywhere).
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dmoe
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Naloxone is an opiate blocker that they give patients that have gone through the detox of opiates, so if they take anything like a hydro they will not become re-addicted.
Suboxone is bupe, which is a narcotic opiate but used to treat for detox, from hydro, but it is a narvotic, just without any euphora feeling, it could also be used to treat moderate to severe pain, but the FDA has only put it on the market to treat WD's while detoxing.
Edited by dmoe (02/08/05 03:10 PM)
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seaofyouth
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It's called Temgesic in Mexico and is only avialable in .03mg tablets. It's pure buprenorphine. Suboxone and Subutex come in 2 and 8mg strengths.
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Pocahontas
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It's called Temgesic in Mexico and is only avialable in .03mg tablets. It's pure buprenorphine. Suboxone and Subutex come in 2 and 8mg strengths.
This is not entirely true.
Buprenorphine in Mexico is called Temgesic. Tablets are 0.2 mg each and amps (for IV or IM injection) are 0.3 mg each.
In the US, buprenorphine is sold under the names Subutex and Suboxone (bupe + naloxone) in 2 mg and 8 mg SL tablets. It also comes in amps called Buprenex 0.3 mg each.
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biggs
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i think that suboxone should be over the counter.
It does not get you high. It will get you off of any opiate as long as you stay off them for a while. And you can not overdose on them.
They should be behind the counter at the pharmacy and available without a perscription.
People do not take it to get high.
So why is it so hard to get ?
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curve
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I ordered Temgesic twice last year from 247-pharmacy when it was in stock. I use this medication when I start to build a tolerance to Hydro. I take one 0.2 mg sublingual tab in the morning. For me it eliminates all withdrawal syptoms and cravings for hydro. I take one a day for a week, and thats it. This medication is outright the best medication for detoxing off of Hydro. I am a little concerned about the availabitity of this medication. My supply will not last for ever. I understand that it is available from mxpharma.net at $65.00 for ten, expensive but worth every cent. Has anyone received Temgesic from this pharmacy and is it the real deal.
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Richieboy67
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The goverment should hand this stuff out for free... would do wonders I bet!
How much Hydro were you taking when you switched to the Temgesic?? No with drawels at all?? No sweats, anxiety or leg shakes!! wow... It would be nice to have some of that just in case...
Thanks
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curve
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When I am up to 10 Hydros a day, I have built up a tolerance and feel it is time to take a break. My routine is to quit on a Saturday cold turkey and go through the hell of detoxification, cold sweats, spasms the works. Sunday is much better and then Monday I start the Temgesic for the week. I do not have a large amount left. I take it mostly, so I can still function at work. If I had a good supply I would start taking it right away.
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unbs
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People do not take it to get high.
Not yet but it won't take long for money to make someone come up with a way
Edited by unbs (02/26/05 08:20 PM)
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Eeyore27
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Interesting thread, everyone. I was just reading an artical about Suboxone in the paper the other day, and apparently there are laws about how many patients a doctor or a practice is permitted to prescribe this med to. Not sure if it's just my State, but they said that no doctor or practice can prescribe this med to any more than 30 patients at any given time. One doctor in particular expressed his frustration about the limit because he had a patient die while he was waiting for an opening. Pretty sad, if you ask me.
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reddish
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Straighten this out:
First of all, buprenorphine is a mixed agonist/antagonist opiate. Someone who is taking buprenorphine to stave off withdrawls from hydrocodone is *still addicted to opiates*. (Duh, otherwise why would you have to take the pill???)
Also you can get high on buprenorphine. Many people do. No more money is needed:)
Someone who is dependent on opiates already *may* (although rarely) be sent in to full on withdrawls by a single dose of buprenorphine. That is why when it is prescribed for detox or maintenance the first dose is taken in the presence of a doctor. Full on withdrawls for most hydro users should not be the *absolute* hell that withdrawls are for high dose opiate users -- so this is less of a concern.
Injecting buprenorphine produces that good old "heroin like rush" that all of us Americans try and avoid at all costs.
Suboxone contains naloxone and buprenorphine but the naloxone is supposedly ineffective taken at that dosage orally. This should not be a concern for someone who is not going to inject the pill (which would be borderline retarded anyway). Naloxone is in the tablet to prevent injection (in which case the naloxone will be take action rapidly and thoroughly -- making an addict very sick and possibly making an opiate naive user not so well).
It's basically pointless to switch drugs. You'll still be dependent on opiates. Don't switch unless you want it for pain relief(more than you want hydro for pain relief) and/or you have easier/cheaper access (since it is a totally viable pain relief drug).
About the OTC thing -- not sure where you got that idea. It should be OTC just as soon as heroin. Which is right now. But buprenorphine is also *potentially* dangerous (like swimming pools, airplanes, glass, whathaveyou) and is no safer than hydro/morphine/heroin/strong opiates and in some ways is worse because of the peculiarities of mixed agonist/antagonist opiates.
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Jazzitup
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I couldn't get high off it when I first started taking 48mgs/day after over 200mg hydro habit! Now my tolerance is so low that if I accidentally take enough to feel it in a "buzz" sense (like a full one milligram!), I'm shortly sick to my stomach, all day! I think a whole 8mg pill could possibly kill (?) the opiate-naive person! Strange drug; safe and amazingly effective when properly used, but hazardous in wrong hands possibly...
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