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gandalf431
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wondering what happens when someone refuses a C.O.D. package
      #230561 - 03/03/05 02:46 PM

I was just wondering what happens when someone refuses a C.O.D. package from a NROP. The law says that once the meds leave the pharmacy then they cannot be restocked. As far as I know there are no exceptions. So what really happens?? I doubt the meds are discarded, but there is liability involved here. Suppose the next person who got the meds got sick or died.. Suppose their family claimed that the meds they received were tampered with.. Remember the tylenol scare of several years back?? I was just wondering about this. Any opinions??

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sky2761
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Re: Just Wondering.. [Re: gandalf431]
      #230571 - 03/03/05 03:07 PM

hmmm - interesting question. I refused a package a few weeks ago as it was a duplicate shipment and wasn't expecting it. I never thought of where it went after that. Maybe because the package wasn't tampered with or obviously opened that it's ok for them to receive it back and (EESH!) recycle the meds? That doesn't sound right.........definately food for thought.

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ikestormu11
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Re: Just Wondering.. [Re: gandalf431]
      #230591 - 03/03/05 04:19 PM

I'm sure people will start with the LE is all over the place why discuss this stuff here? LE knows more than most think, but unlike nrops they are bound by laws and they don't skirt them like the aforementioned nrops.(If they want a solid case) We've all read about KY but those are local LE grabbing at straws, and there have been a total of 8 (approximately) arrests out of how many tens of thousands of orders made daily. Of those 8 I'm curious to see how many actually get convicted. One poster already mentioned his buddy was one of the "arrests" and that he was actually released with charges dropped the same day. The previous part of my post is kind of like a preemptive strike, probably won't work but I really don't care. Now to the original post at hand, Gandalf's question. It is a good question and I've thought about it before. My guess is it goes back to the nrop and re-shipped to the next person waiting in line. (Against federal regulations, but the umbrella of nrops as a whole seem to be) What I've always wondered is where do nrops get there meds to begin with? Especially with all of the reports of people getting weak, or even worse, meds that make them sick lately. Is it a completey black market? This is what I'd really like to know. The origin of the meds. You may think otherwise but nothing in my post is news to LE its all been said before. Like I said IMO LE is aware of more than we think.

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lincoona
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Re: Just Wondering.. [Re: ikestormu11]
      #230598 - 03/03/05 04:33 PM

Ikestorm I like the way you buried your reply to the post, kind of like hiding in the herd!

If I don't pick up my script from Walgreen's (which has happened in the past) they simply re-stock it brcause it hasn't left the pharmacy. I guess the rationale is that if the package is still sealed then it is still re-stockable, like it really matters and they really care.

As to the med's origins, there are simply too many millions of doses going out for them to be anything but real. This is why I think OP's will be around for a long, long time. Big Pharma is going to lobby against any stiffer drug laws that might reduce their bottom line.

In Oklahoma, Big Pharma is fighting Schedule 5 classification of Sudafed, because that would eliminate or severely limit the millions of doses they sell that get made into meth. Schedule 5 is stiil OTC, it just means you have to ask for it and the pharmacist has to record your name and you are limited to 3 boxes a month.

Big Pharma sells these drugs to the OP's, and they don't want to stop.


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scarrlett
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Re: Just Wondering.. [Re: lincoona]
      #230671 - 03/04/05 12:52 AM

Well as far as the NROPs being real & legitimate, from what I have read & understand, it's not extremely difficult for a person to be an authorized distributor in Florida, much like any other business license. Now how they maintain that business is another story...

I wish people would do a little research before implying NROPs get medicines illegally. IMO, statements like that give ALL OPs a bad name. I was talking to a friend of mine about ordering xanax for a plane trip & she flipped out. For some people, any online medication purchase is dangerous unless you're getting it from Eckerd or CVS.

As far as returned meds, I don't necessarily believe they would redistribute the pills. I was once shipped the wrong meds on a COD order. I ordered 1 bottle of 60 count 10/325 and paid the $150.00 or what ever it was at the time but when I opened the bag there was a 60 count of 10/650 & a 90 count bottle of soma. When I called the OP - NROP - they told me to just throw them away & they sent out the correct order at no charge! But even though it is against the law for them to send the returned meds back out, I wouldn't have a problem with receiving that order since it was REFUSED and not "returned" for a refund. Like any other product I may buy from a store that someone else might have returned, but it remained sealed.


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SandyFeet
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Re: Just Wondering.. [Re: scarrlett]
      #230723 - 03/04/05 06:27 AM

I am sure they ditch the returned package; most meds commonly ordered from OPs are inexpensive.

Well, not inexpensive to the buyer, just the manufacturer.

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